Suggestion for slowing down the new Griefing

[Sambees]

So the new thing all the hip young kids are doing these days is to travel in groups and vote to kick and regen worlds out from under the current players. Seems to me like an easy deterrent would be to set in game time limits to access voting related features. If it's mandatory for a player to need to have participated for 5 to 10 in game days before they can vote, I doubt most trolls are going to want to sit around for 80 minutes to do it. Almost every server I've joined has been wiped this way and they're always in and out as quickly as possible (gloating time not withstanding of course). If you want control over what happens with the server, it makes sense to demand they have actually played on the server before making decisions about it.

On a more general harassment note, I would like to put forward the option to "flag" players listed in your recent histories. It's generally the same handful of people who like to do these things (I know most of them by name at this point, and it's clear others on the forums do too). It would be nice to be able to flag someone who has harassed me within the past 20 days. If someone gets 20 (or whatever) flags, when they join a server, a vote box appears (like the kick vote/regen vote) letting people know that "flagged player X" is attempting to join their server and let people vote on kicking them before they even spawn. Flags could either reset after x amount of time or work on a cool down system where you loose a flag every 2 or 3 days for each day you don't get flagged again. Players can only flag a person who appears on their history page once per time they appear there. Convincing 20 people to join you in a harassment scam to track down and fake flag someone would be a feat in and of itself and would be a hard feature to abuse. On the flip side, if you where a griefer, it would only take 2-5 sessions to get your dumb ass marked by the strangers you annoy. Meanwhile  a cool down allows players who have been flagged to clear their name with good behavior (or at least the absence of bad behavior) and the option to still be voted in doesn't outright exclude them from games or playing privately with their friends.

In general, I like the new system, the rollback has saved our camp from fire griefers and the regen option is a great way to start fresh with people who don't want the current world anymore, it just needs some work.

[EuedeAdodooedoe]

@Sambees I think pretty much everybody knows that voting being possible only for those who have played for a few days and having more voting power for players who have played for a longer time (e.g.) could be very hard to abuse and could fix a lot of vote-griefing issues, so I would certainly agree with you on that and I'm certain plenty others would too. I'm quite surprised this isn't in the game yet, considering the sheer amount of complaints.

The flagging system could easily be abused, however. People could flag other players for ridiculous reasons, be it out of emotional response or whatever the hell else and you could not know what for somebody would be flagged for based on what you've described. It would just be an inconvenience and would make players more necessitated to comply with what everyone else wants, regardless of whether what everyone else wants is reasonable or not. But all in all, this would just bring in the issue of players not trusting anyone anymore as a troll with multiple accounts could easily abuse this. So no, flagging doesn't seem like a great way of doing this, nor would it be hard to abuse. This can be even worse if you go from server to server and meet new players and get flagged for no reason at all.

[DVS_Zev]

sounds well thought out to me.A solid fix to an annoying problem.

[False]

A few cents from me. 

The voting kicking system was rolled out with the request of many to counter trolls. It was forseen a mile away that it can be used by trolls even before it was rolled out.

The action from Klei to find a mechanism to deal with trolls is less from satistory to me.

I gave up the game because I finally realized that no matter how hard I tried to make a well-built base, the trolls can destroy it in 10 seconds. I don't want to go out for hunting while worrying about being trolled all the time. I don't want to roll back the server by 2 days every 10 days.

I was watching a twitcher steaming playing DST the other day. It was really good play. I followed him and asked to join. It turns out that someone needs to pay to join, and the amount is comparable to the game itself. I am poor and left.

There was a relatively organized server by 'Gingerbread'. But he never made the server group only to make it controlled. And eventually he pulled down the servers because he got bored of it.

[Arlesienne]

@False, do you have a few fellow players for a friends-only game?

[False]

@Arlesienne I don't but I did. As I said, I gave up eventually. When I came back, most of the buddies have left the game as well.

It is very hard to find a good private server. By good, I basically mean 2 things:

1. The server host at least know as much as I do

2. No trolls.

I also look forward to a good group only server: someone can join by being introduced. If you troll, ban a year or forever. If that person was introduced by you, you also get banned for a week.  

 

[Arlesienne]

6 minutes ago, False said:

@Arlesienne I don't but I did. As I said, I gave up eventually. When I came back, most of the buddies have left the game as well.

It is very hard to find a good private server. By good, I basically mean 2 things:

1. The server host at least know as much as I do

2. No trolls.

I also look forward to a good group only server: someone can join by being introduced. If you troll, ban a year or forever. If that person was introduced by you, you also get banned for a week.  

 

Hmm, you could join us if you wanted. We have admins all the time during playtimes for a reason.

[False]

@Arlesienne What is your server name?

[Arlesienne]

11 minutes ago, False said:

@Arlesienne What is your server name?

Read on here, I don't want to derail the thread: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/keeperworld

Running away, it's RPG night !

[blubuild]

On 9/22/2016 at 0:52 PM, EuedeAdodooedoe said:

@Sambees I think pretty much everybody knows that voting being possible only for those who have played for a few days and having more voting power for players who have played for a longer time (e.g.) could be very hard to abuse and could fix a lot of vote-griefing issues, so I would certainly agree with you on that and I'm certain plenty others would too. I'm quite surprised this isn't in the game yet, considering the sheer amount of complaints.

So is this still going on...?

It's almost as if (well, no, it really does seem that) the devs don't care at all. Either that, or they barely even read the forums (I suppose that'd just be a different manner of not caring, though). They don't seem to pay any attention to suggestions on the forum, no matter how often repeated, and apparently sometimes to bug reports as well, and just go on and on pushing updates with new hype content, while tending to ignore anything else about the game. Well, it probably IS a much better approach for more sales.
Relatively speaking, this is apparently a fortunate situation, as we could have it worse - DST could be virtually abandonware like singleplayer DS, which gets no love or any of the functional or content improvements of DST (not even scrolling in lists, let alone other UI improvements). I guess you can at least pause in DS without installing an experimental mod, though, so that's something...