Adamuchi Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Hello !All is in the title, what are your favorties starting programs ? I liked the Parasite I tested on my second game. It really changes the way to play ("take your time, all will be hacked but be prepared for a high alarm level if you take too long !") On the third one, I'm testing Seed + Rapier which is pretty nice in early infiltration. The Seed helps a lot later, but the late game are pretty complicated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberboy2000 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I am a big fan of parasite too. It has been buffed alot and I don't know why, and I've had a hard time going back to lockpick since then.I used to really like fusion, but that one has been nerfed which means that it has barely any advantage at all compared to ususal power drip. Seed is amazing, especially if you have something that synergises with it, like Mercenary which I also think is great.I have not tested Dynamo, but it seems good.I don't like Rapier though. I often reach high security levels just for the sake of filling out the map and looting everything.And lastly there's Faust and Brimstone. I don't think they are very special. I just used them for the achievement. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminLewis Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The trade-off between Faust and Dynamo is +20 early power for Faust in return for chance of daemons. That shiny, shiny power. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nxf7 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Since there's such a wide variety of viable starting programs, my choice of agents dictates what programs I want, not the other way around. The most impactful being Archive Banks; starting with her means I'm not going to be getting power from consoles so I almost always start with parasite since it's the most power-efficient. Seed is the strongest saver in general for the late game but it doesn't help Archive Prism as much as a generator does. Fusion is as good as dead so that's out of the question. I admit Faust + Central for ~3 power a turn would be strong but triggering daemons isn't my style. So if I don't want Seed I'd want Dynamo or Power Drip. Rapier would be a great breaker but it's an instant liability as soon as the alarm reaches level 2 and early game with only 2 agents with 8 AP that happens way too fast to find and break all the safes in time. Nothing worse than finding a pair of 5 firewall safes just as you reached alarm level 2. At least if you took parasite you know they will break in 5 turns, but rapier would take at least 10, probably closer to 15. So early game I don't find it that useful because it doesn't guarantee I can crack all the safes and late game Blowfish2.0 will instantly make it useless. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronAlphaNexus1 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I personally like the power drip-parasite combo. Since i like playing with archived Prism i usually need a lot of energy and i can't use the lockpick or stuff like that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leobarreiros Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Fusion is as good as dead so that's out of the question. I don't think fusion is dead. It was nerfed realy bad but it can be a great PWR generator if you plan to take Charge. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nxf7 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't think fusion is dead. It was nerfed realy bad but it can be a great PWR generator if you plan to take Charge.That's the problem, you're forced to plan on getting Charge because Fusion alone is so much weaker than Power Drip. Which for a 3 day campaign you can't rely on finding. Which is ok for Endless, sure but even then it's only 2.25 power per turn which isn't anything amazing (compared to overdrive+emergency reserve or even just Seed alone) and Server 3's can easily replace it, freeing up a program slot. So you need to A: plan on finding Charge and B: not use Server 3's. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leobarreiros Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 That's the problem, you're forced to plan on getting Charge because Fusion alone is so much weaker than Power Drip. You are right, fusion alone is hard to play, especially with some nasty Daemons lurking around. Most PWR generation programs need a backup plan for getting more PWR. Even seed alone can be tricky as your only source of power. Getting Fusion + charge is a bold plan for the campain, true. I think Fusion and Parasite is still a viable starting choice. Who knows what shopcat might have in store. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyingCat Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I think Dynamo and Parasite are a pretty good combo though I definitely like to pick up a fast acting firewall breaker when I can Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaibo Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hey guys,I hear a lot of people talking about programs like Mercenary, Dynamo, and Charge. I don't have those programs unlocked and I can't seem to find any information on them in any of the wikis. Is there a resource available online that lists all of the programs available to Incognita (including the ones mentioned here)?(Please bear with me as I'm fairly new to the game) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfreak2 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I like all of the starting programs. (Even Rapier!) Parasite is the hardest one to play, though, because you have to wait a turn (or more) to get into a room with cameras. The thing about Parasite which tends to get me in trouble is the fact that it happens at the beginning of your next turn - so when the alarm level reaches 1 and the additional cameras are activated (during the guards' turn), you do not have time to hack them before they see you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puritifyer Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hey guys,I hear a lot of people talking about programs like Mercenary, Dynamo, and Charge. I don't have those programs unlocked and I can't seem to find any information on them in any of the wikis. Is there a resource available online that lists all of the programs available to Incognita (including the ones mentioned here)?(Please bear with me as I'm fairly new to the game) Mercenary and Dynamo are unlockable with experience, they are some of the last few programs you will unlock (not sure if they come before or after you've got Archive agents). They were added in the most recent update This is a list I generated of the programs released in Update 11 I don't have anything similar for the other programs, but I can likely produce one in a few days. Charge is a program that can be purchased from Server Farms and possibly random Server Terminals that are found around levels. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamuchi Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Thank you a lot for all these answers. I'm trying a new game with Parasite again, but I think that I didnt choose well the first program (i let the first unlocked, I dont remember the name...) because I thought Seed was not adapted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyingCat Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hey guys,I hear a lot of people talking about programs like Mercenary, Dynamo, and Charge. I don't have those programs unlocked and I can't seem to find any information on them in any of the wikis. Is there a resource available online that lists all of the programs available to Incognita (including the ones mentioned here)?(Please bear with me as I'm fairly new to the game) Also (I forget honestly which programs they are) you have to beat the game on experienced difficulty to unlock the last two of the starting programs (and the last two agents) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaibo Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Mercenary and Dynamo are unlockable with experience, they are some of the last few programs you will unlock (not sure if they come before or after you've got Archive agents). They were added in the most recent update This is a list I generated of the programs released in Update 11 I don't have anything similar for the other programs, but I can likely produce one in a few days. Charge is a program that can be purchased from Server Farms and possibly random Server Terminals that are found around levels.Thanks a bunch! This will definitely be helpful. I'm surprised you can't find any of this information anywhere else (the wikis are in serious need of an update). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nxf7 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (the wikis are in serious need of an update).Everyone says that but no one does anything about it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puritifyer Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Everyone says that but no one does anything about it Has the community decided on a wiki yet? Almost ever conversation I've seen relating to the issue resulted in trying to figure out whether we are going to use Gamepedia or Wikia. They both are fairly out of date, I'll gladly improve the programs section of the wiki once we've decided on this issue (I'll try making a thread about the issue in the future if there is interest). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nxf7 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Has the community decided on a wiki yet? Almost ever conversation I've seen relating to the issue resulted in trying to figure out whether we are going to use Gamepedia or Wikia. They both are fairly out of date, I'll gladly improve the programs section of the wiki once we've decided on this issue (I'll try making a thread about the issue in the future if there is interest).The Wikia is way closer to being up to date. Gamepedia's frontpage looks like a bomb went off and you can't navigate it for ****. At first I thought "The Basics" in the bottom left was sort of like a contents page for the wiki but all of the links except for "incognita programs" are useless stuff that was from alpha. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puritifyer Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The Wikia is way closer to being up to date. Gamepedia's frontpage looks like a bomb went off and you can't navigate it for ****. At first I thought "The Basics" in the bottom left was sort of like a contents page for the wiki but all of the links except for "incognita programs" are useless stuff that was from alpha. Just skimmed over the sites until you brought up the Gamepedia page. I've seen sites using comic sans with better navigation. I'll head over to the Wikia page to try and update the Programs page soon. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-665950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthe Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I think Dynamo and Parasite are a pretty good combo though I definitely like to pick up a fast acting firewall breaker when I can This is generally my favorite starting combo. I also like getting "Charge" and then "Parasite v2.0". You definitely want 2 more direct attack programs (as opposed to things like Ping and Wisp) since you'll only be able to use them each once per turn (or less depending on the program's base cooldown). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-666323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wodzu_93 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Seed + Lockpick or Brimstone. Barely costs any PWR with clever use. Add Overdrive, Hunter, Dagger V2.0 and you're golden.Lack of actual power generation is only an issue with Archive Prism or PWR-using items, but that's job for portable servers or PWR generating agents. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/57244-what-are-your-favorites-starting-programs/#findComment-666333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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