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Hey, 

 

What programs do you guys like to use (both starting programs and in general)

 

Here are my favorites:

 

Starting:

 

Either Fusion or Seed for power and either Parasite or brimstone

 

In general (in order from favorite to least favorite):

 

Power programs: Fusion, Seed, Emergency reserve, Power Drip, wildfire,  the rest... (does anyone ever use Abacus?, seems useless)

Hacking programs: Datablast, All the wrenches (just 1 per playthrough), parasite 1+2 (never found 2 though.... as of yet) , Hammer, brimstone, Dagger 1+2, Lockpick 2+1, rapier

Miscellaneous programs: Hunter, Ping (love it!) , Wings, Wisp, the rest i usually dont use

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This is difficult because depending on how far along in the game I am (endless mode) my needs change.  

When things start out, I would be happy with Fusion and Rapier.

However, mid-game and on, I would have wished I had chosen Seed instead.

 

In my current game (day 15), I have 4 of the portable server III so I don't really need a power generating program anymore. 

My current favorite programs are Oracle, Lockpick 2, Hammer, Ping, and Hunter.

 

At this point in the game, I am dealing with high firewalls which often have daemons.  Lockpick 2, Hammer and Hunter help with those problems (as well as other assorted items my people carry).  Time is more important now then ever so having Oracle show me the layout without having to actually go to each area is an amazing advantage.  Ping is pretty nice but not nearly as important now as it was earlier in the game (before my agents were outfitted well).

 

Abacus 2.0 seems like a complete joke nowadays.  It used to be the Holy Grail of programs allowing you to have 30 power possible instead of 20.  In it's current incarnation, it really doesn't seem worth taking up an entire program slot to get 8 power one time during each mission.  I can get more then that each time I hack a console in the level.  

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If we speak about only invidual programs, then my favourites are Hunter (Take that, Felix Daemon! You shouldn't even exist in the first place!), Parasite V.2 (I'm not really sure if it exists anymore, though) and Leash (Longer drone control is always useful).

 

A program that I use really often, but which still isn't my special favourite, is Data Blast. It can get power efficient really quickly, and nothing beats hacking recaptured cameras while hacking other stuff at the same time. Makes those Plastech missions a little less annoying!

 

Now, if we speak about combinations I like... Seed+Oracle when having Prism. Its 1 free camera +1 free power/turn, which helps you with scouting and stuff. Not to mention how much firewalls late-Endless cameras can have.

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You have to differentiate between late game in Endless (+) or a regular campaign. In Endless you will get your optimal loadout sooner or later. In a regular campaign you kind of have to make due with what Shopcat is wiling to give and you'll never go past midgame anyway. That said ...

 

My longest Endless run had: Seed, Brimstone, Wrench4, Hammer, Hunter

 

Power generation:

Seed! Hands down.

The only time seed might be suboptimal is if go with Nika since she requires PWR to stun but then you can always save the PWR you get from consoles. Seed doesn't synergize well with the starting hacking programs but as soon as you pick up some expensive programs it get amazing.

It's also the only one worthwhile late game in Endless mode. When you bring your own server farm 1-2 PWR per turn is nothing.

 

Hacking:

Brimstone(Lockpick 1.0) + Wrench4 + Hammer

Wrench is the most PWR efficient program without a cooldown. LP/BS to get the Firewall to Lvl 4 and the occasional Hammer to bust really high Firewalls.

 

Misc:

Hunter

With the amount of daemons in late game and with Fractal 2.0 Taurus doesn't cut it and there are some daemon you just don't want to trigger.

 

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A lot of the support programs to help your agents out are really good but in late game when all of them have max skills and a bag full of Lvl 3 gadets they hardly need Incognita to help them out. But I would always pick one up to help me through the midgame.

 

Wisp: Awesome. The stuff you can pull of at high alarm levels when you know what every guard is going to do is amazing.

Wings: 2 Moves every other turn. So often you just need that one move to reach the hiding spot or to peek through a door.

Ping: Good for distracting guards but has a long cooldown. Not that you can't mess guards through sprinting and peripheral vision enough.

 

Wisp is great with seed (3 PWR) while Ping and Wings is good for any setup.

 

Other Programs

Oracle: good in midgame with seed (4 PWR) but late game your playing russian roulette. though you can potentially hack through high firewalls for just 4 PWR

Taurus: good in midgame to move crippling daemons off of important targets.

Abacus: Decent on Expert + when you start with Fusion since Fusion consumes all of your starting PWR

 

 

Another potentially good Hacking setup I need to test is Lockpick2.0 + Wrench 3+4 (or 4+5)

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I would say Data Blast is my favourite right now, cheap to buy, cheap to use. Hit 4 devices with it and you're breaking each firewall for 0.75 PWR, and it's not that rare that you want all those things hacked!

I get along alright with Rapier these days, it's generally awful in the early game because it takes too long for 2 agents with 1 Speed to scope out a level and you really, really need another breaker you can use once the cost starts to get silly, but if you have 3 or 4 speedy agents you can hack most of a level before the PWR cost goes up, Lockpick v.2 makes for a nice back-up once that happens.

 

I'm still picking Fusion, though I'm beginning to think I'm missing something with Seed. I tried ditching Fusion in an Endless game because I thought 6 Portable Servers would cover it and I wanted two big breakers, wasn't a complete failure but I definitely missed it.

 

Maybe Taurus is the better deal but I lean towards Hunter, that cooldown is a real problem in late Endless though.

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I would say Data Blast is my favourite right now, cheap to buy, cheap to use. Hit 4 devices with it and you're breaking each firewall for 0.75 PWR, and it's not that rare that you want all those things hacked!

I get along alright with Rapier these days, it's generally awful in the early game because it takes too long for 2 agents with 1 Speed to scope out a level and you really, really need another breaker you can use once the cost starts to get silly, but if you have 3 or 4 speedy agents you can hack most of a level before the PWR cost goes up, Lockpick v.2 makes for a nice back-up once that happens.

 

I'm still picking Fusion, though I'm beginning to think I'm missing something with Seed. I tried ditching Fusion in an Endless game because I thought 6 Portable Servers would cover it and I wanted two big breakers, wasn't a complete failure but I definitely missed it.

 

Maybe Taurus is the better deal but I lean towards Hunter, that cooldown is a real problem in late Endless though.

 

Datablast is Good in the midgame when firewalls are still fairly low and you hack most of the devices with Incongnita. lategame when cameras start with 4 or 7 levels your going to run out of PWR fast if you don't have strong single traget hacking programs. at that point i find only cameras matter for Incognita. everything else is usullay hacked with buster/prototype chips and/or disabled by EMP. unless I have PWR to spare.

 

rapier is good if everything goes smooth and you blitz through the level. that is unless you start with a Blowfish 2.0 daemon. or Modulate 2.0. at which point it just becomes a wasted slot.

 

just as rapier will be screwed over by Blowfish 2.0 and Modulate 2.0, taurus has a problem Fractal 2.0. if your solution to a problem falls apart when you face the worst case you'll run into problems sooner or later.

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Datablast is Good in the midgame when firewalls are still fairly low and you hack most of the devices with Incongnita. lategame when cameras start with 4 or 7 levels your going to run out of PWR fast if you don't have strong single traget hacking programs. at that point i find only cameras matter for Incognita. everything else is usullay hacked with buster/prototype chips and/or disabled by EMP. unless I have PWR to spare.

 

rapier is good if everything goes smooth and you blitz through the level. that is unless you start with a Blowfish 2.0 daemon. or Modulate 2.0. at which point it just becomes a wasted slot.

 

just as rapier will be screwed over by Blowfish 2.0 and Modulate 2.0, taurus has a problem Fractal 2.0. if your solution to a problem falls apart when you face the worst case you'll run into problems sooner or later.

 

Well, if we're talking about Endless, Data Blast is essential when you have those high firewalls, as you can use it to soften up a group of magnetically hardened devices then hit them with an EMP. I would never choose between it and a breaker like Hammer or Dagger though, both deserve a place.

 

Totally agree with you on Taurus in late Endless, that's why I take Hunter, but more generally, I wonder if Taurus is the better deal. Even Hunter can't quite cope with Fractal 2.0, that cooldown becomes a bit of ball and chain, why EMPs are essential.

I agree Rapier is pretty fragile, but then you don't expect each program to be a solution to every problem, Rapier's useful when hit with Fractal 2.0 because it's cheap for softening stuff up for EMPs, or use it with Hunter. In any case, programs are part of the wider build, some choices don't really make sense unless you know the rest of the build and the playstyle.

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Well, if we're talking about Endless, Data Blast is essential when you have those high firewalls, as you can use it to soften up a group of magnetically hardened devices then hit them with an EMP. I would never choose between it and a breaker like Hammer or Dagger though, both deserve a place.

 

Totally agree with you on Taurus in late Endless, that's why I take Hunter, but more generally, I wonder if Taurus is the better deal. Even Hunter can't quite cope with Fractal 2.0, that cooldown becomes a bit of ball and chain, why EMPs are essential.

I agree Rapier is pretty fragile, but then you don't expect each program to be a solution to every problem, Rapier's useful when hit with Fractal 2.0 because it's cheap for softening stuff up for EMPs, or use it with Hunter. In any case, programs are part of the wider build, some choices don't really make sense unless you know the rest of the build and the playstyle.

 

 

anything you want to EMP you need to get close to loot. at that point using buster/prototype chips is usually cheaper.

 

hunter can deal with the critical damons. that is Validate and Blowfish on Cameras and Objectives. sometimes Paradox and Authority needs to go too, but the rest can usually betriggered, EMPed or ignored. you can also shoot some cameras if your not infiltrating Sankaku.

 

personally I don't think the bonus on smooth runs is worth the wasted slot on problematic runs. you only have 5 program slots on Incognita. that's the most scare resource you have on an endless run. that why I advised ditching the support programs in late game.

 

but use what works for you and lets you have fun. even on Endless + the game isn't that hard once you're fully equiped.

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