TheFailingHero Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Debug spawning in some deerclops in a new world for the lulz/waiting for friend to get on. In DST it took my dark sword down to about 20% (playing Wes) to kill. I also could only get 3 hits in with good timing, usually only getting 2. With dark sword on wes dealing 51 damage per hit that is ~4000 hp on deerclops. Twice what it should be. In the vanilla I can easily hit 3 times up to 4 or 5 with good timing. My dark sword was also only at around 60% (still playing wes) when the deerclops died. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Letter W Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 IIRC most of the bigger mobs were scaled up for DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryouryou Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Now imagine 6 people beating on it at the same time.That's what it's tuned for. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkXero Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Now imagine 6 people beating on it at the same time.That's what it's tuned for. Having 6 people ganging on the deerclops is wishful thinking. May as well give the Ancient Guardian 6000 health because I can bring 20 lobsters down. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFailingHero Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 yeah I think it should depend on how many players are in lobby when it spawns. I usually only play with 2-3 people and last time a deerclops spawned (me being the most experienced player, and also wes) was charged with drawing it from base and fighting it. Long story short I was trying to fight insanity monsters and deerclops haha barely managed to kill the beast, which is why I decided to test. Do TreeGuards, spiderqueens, etc. scale as well? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviary Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 tetrified, on 05 Jan 2015 - 3:18 PM, said:to prevent a lil misinformation going on in this thread: WEREPIG_HEALTH = 350 * 1.5, -- harder for multiplayer PIG_GUARD_HEALTH = 300 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer MERM_HEALTH = 250 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer WALRUS_HEALTH = 150 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer KNIGHT_HEALTH = 300 * 3, -- harder for multiplayer BISHOP_HEALTH = 300 * 3, -- harder for multiplayer ROOK_HEALTH = 300 * 3, -- harder for multiplayer BEEFALO_HEALTH = 500 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer KOALEFANT_HEALTH = 500 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer SPIDER_WARRIOR_HEALTH = 200 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer LEIF_HEALTH = 2000 * 1.5, -- harder for multiplayer DEERCLOPS_HEALTH = 2000 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer TALLBIRD_HEALTH = 400 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer TEENBIRD_HEALTH = 400*.75 * 2, -- harder for multiplayer KRAMPUS_HEALTH = 200 * 1.5, -- harder for multiplayer SPIDERQUEEN_HEALTH = 1250 * 2, -- harder for multiplayerFrom Tuning.lua Note: I did not find these values by hand, just searched using ^((?!harder).)*$, so it may not be a complete list Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFailingHero Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 tetrified, on 05 Jan 2015 - 3:18 PM, said: Thanks man great info Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryouryou Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If it has twice as much health, it's effectively easier as long as the number of players hitting it is greater than 2, and the same difficulty if it's 2 players. During the winter, players are the most likely to be close to the base, compared to summer, and basically all DST games have at least 2 players, otherwise, why play DST instead of DS?Maybe not always 6, but even 4 makes it die twice as fast as it'd die in single player. 3 is 50% faster death than in single player.I don't see how it's wishful thinking to assume you will have more firepower than usual. You also have more people gathering, and are more likely to be able to create gunpowder early by getting a birdcage asap, so it makes that strat easier, too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkXero Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I don't see how it's wishful thinking to assume you will have more firepower than usual. You also have more people gathering, and are more likely to be able to create gunpowder early by getting a birdcage asap, so it makes that strat easier, too. I can lead the horses to water but I can't make them drink. Even if I let them die. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFailingHero Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 My DST world is generally played by 2-3 people, however I do play a fair amount of solo, as we are going for 1000 day survival(that is if I have an amulet or meat effigy, dont want to ruin my friends work). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFailingHero Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 have 19 gunpowder and ice staffs ready for the next one, however so it should be no problem to 1v1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-600803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
randompandora Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I didn't know you could play wes in dst. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-601083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 @randompandora, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=343762271 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/48971-deerclops-harder-in-dst/#findComment-601109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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