How to deal with batilisks long term (without bunneyman & buzzards)?

[Wumpair]

Inspired by this post:

I just wanted to know if you guys have any long-term solution to oppen sinkholes and batilisks after lunar rifts?

I usually try not to base directly on top of a sinkhole, but in a recent world I happened to be close to one and one autumn bearger oppened it up; so I went to the old solution of building two bunnyman houses next to the sinkhole and a fence around it so they would not bother me at dusk/night.

It worked all well, till I oppened the rifts. Every time there was lunar hail the buzzards would come down on the batilisk corpses, the bunnies would start to fight them, and they would kill each other and destroy the fence wall with their breath, leaving me with no protectors against bats for the next days. Lots of maintanance to repair those fences, and I learned to get away from base asap as hail would start, just to shoot all the buzzards with the flares before they could do any damage.

Not something I minded too much, but still wanted to know if any of you had simillar issues and what alternative solutioms you came up with for bats!

(Bts - I do believe tingglenodes are also breakable by the buzzard fire, so maybe just make a box around the sinkholes with tinggles with no bonnies at all; but the bats are a free source of meat, manure and batbats for wormwood, so I am not sure if its the best option to just close them up.)

[Pruinae]

T.I.N.G.L.E nodes are my solution, they work perfectly since I don't care about the loot. If you are Wormwood and are planning on going long term, the Batbats should be outscaled by Tillweed tea eventually (There is also the Shadow Maul, but it is the Shadow Maul).

Edited Tuesday at 10:32 PM by Pruinae

[RubLog6]

1 hour ago, Pruinae said:

If you are Wormwood and are planning on going long term, the Batbats should be outscaled by Tillweed tea eventually (There is also the Shadow Maul, but it is the Shadow Maul).

You can actually very easily farm bat wings during an acid rain, carry half a stack of nitre and you'll get bat waves every half a day, with an increased chance to get bat wings

[Baark0]

I'm starting to think klei should just make buzzard fire not damage walls, it's not like it adds anything interesting to the game and really just incentivizes you to turn off the main mechanic of lunar hail.

[BeeClops]

11 hours ago, Pruinae said:

T.I.N.G.L.E nodes are my solution, they work perfectly since I don't care about the loot. If you are Wormwood and are planning on going long term, the Batbats should be outscaled by Tillweed tea eventually (There is also the Shadow Maul, but it is the Shadow Maul).

while they work pretty well, they're not 100% fail safe. Bats do push eachother out from time to time and it's still annoying. 

and it's honestly not the little damage I take that bothers me, it's the constant guano that doesn't stack or washed by rain and keeps piling up all over the map wherever there is a sinkhole. 

For me personally the best solution is turning them off sadly, and I'd say the same for buzzards. 

[_sirJames]

I remember investing in a Houndius Shootius and putting it near the sinkhole, expecting it to deal with the bats for me.

It did not deal with the bats for me.

 

 

 

Apparently, it only defends against mobs that have aggroed to the player.

So, I looked at the workshop to see if there was any way to improve it, and... all I could find were mods that changed its damage and firing rate. No, and no.

Except for one mod. It makes it so that the Houndius Shootius also defends Chester. And the Batilisks love aggroing to Chester.

One subscription later, I parked Chester next to the sinkhole alongside the Houndius Shootius.

Such a simple little change, works like a dream, and comes with the self-balancing tradeoff that you have to keep Chester there for it to work. I love it

 

That said, I have no idea how well the Houndius Shootius fares against Lunar Buzzards, I haven't quite gotten to that point yet

Edited Wednesday at 10:02 AM by _sirJames

[mima_]

i wish they add this to base game https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1101769273
this mod add use for giant garlic to repel bats from spawning really nice mod.

 

[gaymime]

it might not be a solution for most people since most people are allergic to touching the world settings but if you set the beefalo heat to more or lots then you can park a beefalo next to sinkholes you use often and they will everything out for most of the year

 

if default is your only interest though you really can just use pigmen. put a bait trap full of dried petals about one tile away from the sinkhole and get your pigs against the side that faces your sinkhole. because the pigs are close the bats will aggro on one of the pigs and not bother you,the only caveat is you will need to use statues instead of walls since the pigmen WILL transform and if they don't refocus on the food right away they will likely start destroying stuff and not be of much help against buzzards

Edited Wednesday at 02:08 PM by gaymime

[BeeClops]

5 hours ago, gaymime said:

it might not be a solution for most people since most people are allergic to touching the world settings but if you set the beefalo heat to more or lots then you can park a beefalo next to sinkholes you use often and they will everything out for most of the year

 

if default is your only interest though you really can just use pigmen. put a bait trap full of dried petals about one tile away from the sinkhole and get your pigs against the side that faces your sinkhole. because the pigs are close the bats will aggro on one of the pigs and not bother you,the only caveat is you will need to use statues instead of walls since the pigmen WILL transform and if they don't refocus on the food right away they will likely start destroying stuff and not be of much help against buzzards

that works really well until they camp on top of the sinkhole, you forget about it and get out of the caves just to get stunlocked to death by the red butt squad 

[gaymime]

19 minutes ago, BeeClops said:

that works really well until they camp on top of the sinkhole, you forget about it and get out of the caves just to get stunlocked to death by the red butt squad 

x'''D maybe i am accustomed to being wes but after about the fourth time you just kind of remember to dash as soon as you get out, they usually can't get you if you dont dawdle and with a cane they can't keep up at all. if you feel nervous you can leave a beef hat at the bottom of the hole to remind you

[Baark0]

Honestly I'd just consider disabling sinkhole bats, they're super annoying especially without any way to make them stop appearing or a way to re-plug sinkholes, and that annoyance is compounded with buzzards damaging walls.

That mod that adds a use for giant garlic seems like a cool and thematically appropriate way of disabling bats, I'm definitely gonna check it out.

[YouKnowWho142]

15 minutes ago, Baark0 said:

That mod that adds a use for giant garlic seems like a cool and thematically appropriate way of disabling bats, I'm definitely gonna check it out.

I believe that mod also adds a way to replicate sinkholes by blowing up the entrance with a piece of gunpowder. I use the mod, I like it for the exact reason you mentioned