Your Chester Posted yesterday at 12:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:17 AM WX-78’s Shadow Affinity multiplier applies the same Vulnerability debuff as Abigail, and the damage boost even works while you’re riding a Beefalo. Wigfrid’s skill tree has this whole dedicated Beefalo-taming branch, but fighting mounted on a Beefalo doesn’t even hit as hard as WX-78’s free damage bonus. Plus, the Beefalo’s movement speed can’t keep up with Wolfgang’s—even his Leg Day speed buff still applies while you’re riding a Beefalo. Like, what even is the point of this Beefalo-taming path? Wouldn’t it be way better to fix Wigfrid’s Inspiration system instead? Inspiration drains way too fast after you step out of combat for two seconds, so you can’t keep the third Battle Hymn active. The Affinity Battle Hymn is also super weak and still takes up a full Battle Hymn slot. Can we just get two extra Battle Hymn slots already? The more Inspiration Wigfrid stacks, the more fired up she gets—why not give her some extra damage scaling with it? Wouldn’t these tweaks be way more fun than this random Beefalo-taming stuff that just doesn’t fit her core playstyle at all? 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM a valkyrie needs her steed 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotGabriel Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM THE SHADOW DEBUFF WORKS ON BEEFALO??? *my beefalo bell whispers to me like the green goblin mask as I try to fight off my old beefalo hyoerfixation* 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond human Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM I think Beefalo-taming skill is only work for role playing (and provide a way to help Wigfrid to deal with vegetable).😁 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted yesterday at 05:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:15 AM This is absolutely ridiculous. Wolfgang's Leg Day (not sure if it's a bug) even works on beefalo, and now WX-78 can also deal more damage while mounted. But our actual "Knight", Wigfrid, her Knight skill tree is a joke: The first two perks become completely useless once your beefalo is fully trained. The third perk offers almost no benefit to mounted combat, and it's even clunkier to use with her base kit. The fourth is the most absurd of all. A skill that requires three full pre-requisites should come with massive payoff, yet all our "Knight" gets is a saddle that's in an extremely awkward phase of the game—one that gets completely outclassed by the Nightmare Saddle as soon as the game progresses even a little. All four skill points provide zero direct combat or mounted buffs to beefalo. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted yesterday at 05:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:18 AM 1 minute ago, Sofy Happy said: This is absolutely ridiculous. Wolfgang's Leg Day (not sure if it's a bug) even works on beefalo, and now WX-78 can also deal more damage while mounted. But our actual "Knight", Wigfrid, her Knight skill tree is a joke: The first two perks become completely useless once your beefalo is fully trained. The third perk offers almost no benefit to mounted combat, and it's even clunkier to use with her base kit. The fourth is the most absurd of all. A skill that requires three full pre-requisites should come with massive payoff, yet all our "Knight" gets is a saddle that's in an extremely awkward phase of the game—one that gets completely outclassed by the Nightmare Saddle as soon as the game progresses even a little. All four skill points provide zero direct combat or mounted buffs to beefalo. Honestly a lot of skill trees have become worse with every new tree that comes out. Klei did acknowledge they would likely have to revisit trees and make them up to par. I think Wigfrid's beefalo perks can be interesting, just klei dropped the ball on it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofy Happy Posted yesterday at 05:30 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:30 AM (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sofy Happy said: This is absolutely ridiculous. Wolfgang's Leg Day (not sure if it's a bug) even works on beefalo, and now WX-78 can also deal more damage while mounted. But our actual "Knight", Wigfrid, her Knight skill tree is a joke: The first two perks become completely useless once your beefalo is fully trained. The third perk offers almost no benefit to mounted combat, and it's even clunkier to use with her base kit. The fourth is the most absurd of all. A skill that requires three full pre-requisites should come with massive payoff, yet all our "Knight" gets is a saddle that's in an extremely awkward phase of the game—one that gets completely outclassed by the Nightmare Saddle as soon as the game progresses even a little. All four skill points provide zero direct combat or mounted buffs to beefalo. And that's not even the end of it! This update is basically just a Wigfrid joke compilation. The Morning Star can now be recharged to restore durability, yet the uncharged Spear of Thunder,which costs a full set of materials, still gets no changes. Hardly anyone uses the uncharged spear these days. WX’s blocking circuit can continuously taunt enemies, while Wigfrid has to keep attacking and then stand unguarded while chanting for a full second just to taunt a tiny group once. And the moment those enemies take any other damage, their aggro instantly switches away. On top of that, this song skill forces a carnivore to grow a tomato just to unlock it. Both characters have skill tree perks that only cost a single point, yet every node for WX is carefully designed and packed with utility. Meanwhile, Wigfrid gets two nearly identical, underwhelming battle anthems: a mere 5% team damage boost or 10% team defense boost. Worse still, only one of them can ever apply in a single fight, since they target different enemy factions, and in many situations neither works at all. Even exclusive defensive perks like blocking and innate damage reduction have been partially given to WX-78 now. I’m not saying WX shouldn’t have these improvements—I’m glad for them. What I’m trying to say is that Klei needs to re-examine Wigfrid’s skill tree, because it has been a widely complained-about issue for a very long time. Edited yesterday at 05:40 AM by Sofy Happy 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddddd Posted yesterday at 02:56 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:56 PM While i dont think wigfrid is weak i can see how wx-78 powercrept every other unique role except wolfgang. If wx-78 followers become any smarter than merms might as well need to rework wurt. This is why wx78 shaddow affinity got locked out of the update and hopefully why some older skill trees will be revisited, they buffed the robot a lil too much Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted yesterday at 03:04 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:04 PM 2 minutes ago, Reddddd said: If wx-78 followers become any smarter than merms might as well need to rework wurt. Sorta unimaginable. The merms don't have to be smart because they are essentially free, disposable, tanky, respawning, powerhouses. If merms are ever unable to kill a boss for you, just add more merms until they do. I used them to kill Crab King because they don't die from falling into the ocean, I just had to ferry them back to the crab from a nearby dock. I think Wx78's power is being overblown because it is new. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted yesterday at 03:33 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:33 PM Wigfrid should have a beefalo skill Thats makes the beefalo do more damage the higher her inspiration 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Marioni Posted yesterday at 05:57 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:57 PM Currently, the only best use I experienced for the beefalo skills are to get a rider beefalo for fast map movement and gain inspiration while traveling to your next spot, so Wigfrid can cast 2 songs before even starting a fight. The beefalo also triggers her life steal, so it can be a defensive option when low on health. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted yesterday at 06:03 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:03 PM What if she had a skill that allowed her to raise a Beefalo so that it had all of their traits in a single beef? Ornery, Rider, and Pudgy all in one, that only she could ride. Or would that be too OP? I don't really use beefalo so not sure how that would affect balance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pruinae Posted yesterday at 07:18 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:18 PM I agree that Wigfrid's skill tree could benefit from some changes, but I think she doesn't need anything too elaborate. The shield and spears should have no cooldown on equipping, she should either deal more damage on top of a beefalo or be able to use weapons while mounted, she has 4 perks related to beefalo yet her riding animation shows her scared for her life (while Walter is just smiling lol). I personally never use the Rond or Commander Helmet because I see no justifiable use cases for them: The C. Helmet knockback resistance is more often than not a detriment because bosses with knockback seem to be designed with you being pushed away from their range in mind, so if you resist it you are prone to get combo'ed. It gets outshined by dreadstone, especially with Wigfrid being one of the better characters to use dreadstone on. The Rond is just not that interesting, what could you do with it that you can't do better with the elding spear's AoE? or just tanking and holding F The helmet could have an upgrade that offers protection against sand/lunar storms (that is easier to get than the RNG potato), or prevent you from getting knocked out of your mount on a cooldown. The Rond not having a cooldown on equipping would at least give some skill expression to it, it should combo with Rude Interlude somehow allowing you to get AND keep enemies' aggro, or a better parry mechanic. The affinities are quite boring, I don't think number changes would make them any more interesting, for those it is justified to have completely new effects. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 7 hours ago, Reddddd said: wx-78 followers become any smarter than merms might as well need to rework wurt. Merms are the most broken follower in the game and Ten ton heavily outperform every other follower, there is no beating them the last thing they need is a buff😓 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul7k Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 7 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: Wigfrid should have a beefalo skill Thats makes the beefalo do more damage the higher her inspiration tbh it could probably be attached to one of the taming perks that way they have a use after they fulfill their purpose 4 hours ago, cropo said: What if she had a skill that allowed her to raise a Beefalo so that it had all of their traits in a single beef? Ornery, Rider, and Pudgy all in one, that only she could ride. Or would that be too OP? I don't really use beefalo so not sure how that would affect balance. that sounds hilarious. I'm in, but of course only she could use this one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddddd Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: Merms are the most broken follower in the game and Ten ton heavily outperform every other follower, there is no beating them the last thing they need is a buff😓 I was just saying an example of how wx-78 is always going to be outclassing other unique roles, he needs nerfs instead of buffing every other skill tree haha :') wiigfrid has some flaws ofc, but what i tried to say is how wx-78 might be the "Oh but wx-78 does it too, in a decent way, why even use this one." If wx-78 becomes like, better at pve then why use wigfrid? Answer: Shadow affinity got locked out of the final update devs saw how underwhelming it was for an affinity and how op it was for an general buff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago On 4/15/2026 at 9:01 PM, NotGabriel said: THE SHADOW DEBUFF WORKS ON BEEFALO??? *my beefalo bell whispers to me like the green goblin mask as I try to fight off my old beefalo hyoerfixation* Seriously. WX gets to join the class of characters who don't care about using a beefalo for carrying quest items and then this happens. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddddd Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Just now, Semind said: Seriously. WX gets to join the class of characters who don't care about using a beefalo for carrying quest items and then this happens. Tbh beefalo stills get speed buff from his circuits (slightly) and wont suffer ANY debuff from carrying statues. Even with 2x acceleration you have at best an slightly worse beefalo to carry heavy things... he theorically can join that class, but in practice using a beefalo to carry heavy items is better unless ur wolfgang Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Just now, Reddddd said: Tbh beefalo stills get speed buff from his circuits (slightly) and wont suffer ANY debuff from carrying statues. Even with 2x acceleration you have at best an slightly worse beefalo to carry heavy things... he theorically can join that class, but in practice using a beefalo to carry heavy items is better unless ur wolfgang The time saved using a beefalo doesn't make up for the time spent babysitting said beefalo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotGabriel Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Reddddd said: Tbh beefalo stills get speed buff from his circuits (slightly) and wont suffer ANY debuff from carrying statues. Even with 2x acceleration you have at best an slightly worse beefalo to carry heavy things... he theorically can join that class, but in practice using a beefalo to carry heavy items is better unless ur wolfgang WX does not give their speed boost to beefalo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Reddddd said: Tbh beefalo stills get speed buff from his circuits (slightly) and wont suffer ANY debuff from carrying statues. Even with 2x acceleration you have at best an slightly worse beefalo to carry heavy things... he theorically can join that class, but in practice using a beefalo to carry heavy items is better unless ur wolfgang wx can move faster than wolfgang while carrying heavy itens Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Glow Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago i think at the very least her inspiration should stop draining for a small duration upon singing a song. Would be a nice quality of life change Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond human Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 9 hours ago, cropo said: What if she had a skill that allowed her to raise a Beefalo so that it had all of their traits in a single beef? Ornery, Rider, and Pudgy all in one, that only she could ride. Or would that be too OP? I don't really use beefalo so not sure how that would affect balance. Real warriors won't tame fat beefalo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddddd Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, doritosdamafia said: wx can move faster than wolfgang while carrying heavy itens Wolfgang can train with heavy items though, you get no benefit from carrying heavy items with wx-78, just a 3 acceleration circuit chassis (which doesnt seem minn maxxing but i guess the fun IS creating diverse builds) 2 minutes ago, beyond human said: Real warriors won't tame fat beefalo. Idk if this is a meme but this could just be that wigfrid feels safe near her war beefalo, giving an sanity aura boost greater than pudgy, so she could be a viable ruins rusher via beefalo getting all affinities quicker. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, Reddddd said: Wolfgang can train with heavy items though, you get no benefit from carrying heavy items with wx-78, just a 3 acceleration circuit chassis (which doesnt seem minn maxxing but i guess the fun IS creating diverse builds) i have the benefice of not wasting resources in something that i only will do three times at best, wolfgang gym will no even be far from the crafting station of the statues, so it's not even a real problem Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170895-her-skill-tree-is-just-getting-funnier-and-more-clownish-by-the-update/#findComment-1862845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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