Please Make Auto-Pick Exclusive to Nightmare Fuel Imbue

[JazzyGames]

The ability is useful but for general gameplay is more of an inconvenience than a perk. I now permanently carry around a pair of pliers in order to remove my shadow atrium every time I come back to base, feel like I actually remember to take it off maybe 50% of the time.

The skill picks items off of the ground at random which makes it worse than a lazy forager which will only select items that are in an already full inventory. It also picks flowers which amounts to self-griefing any builds with flowers intentionally planted. Any time I may have saved with gathering items is more than offset by the time I spend placing unwanted items back into place.

An on/off switch would partially fix the issue but I honestly don't think it needs to be a perk of the shadow atrium at all. I'm happy to slot a nightmare fuel if I ever wanted to use it for gathering but would rather not deal with the mechanic most of the time.

Edited Wednesday at 08:26 PM by JazzyGames

[Reddddd]

Seriously im so tired with QueueActions being overriden with this stupid shadow hand gathering manure/rot/silk/whatever instead of focusing on whatever i need or have on inventory. Its so frustrating like, even when picking backpacks or armor will gather whatever is around. Though its really useful on gathering cactus

[NotGabriel]

40 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

The ability is useful but for general gameplay is more of an inconvenience than a perk. I now permanently carry around a pair of pliers in order to remove my shadow atrium every time I come back to base, feel like I actually remember to take it off maybe 50% of the time.

The skill picks items off of the ground at random which makes it worse than a lazy forager which will only select items that are in an already full inventory. It also picks flowers which amounts to self-griefing any builds with flowers intentionally planted. Any time I may have saved with gathering items is more than offset by the time I spend placing unwanted items back into place.

An on/off switch would partially fix the issue but I honestly don't think it needs to be a perk of the shadow atrium at all. I'm happy to slot a nightmare fuel if I ever wanted to use it for gathering but would rather not deal with the mechanic most of the time.

I’d prefer they make it able to be toggled on and off because I enjoy the fact that the effects stack more and more as you get more powerful shadow items. Maybe when you over over your circuit bar there’s little notches for each shadow effect you can click on to switch on or off.

[JazzyGames]

4 minutes ago, NotGabriel said:

I’d prefer they make it able to be toggled on and off because I enjoy the fact that the effects stack more and more as you get more powerful shadow items. Maybe when you over over your circuit bar there’s little notches for each shadow effect you can click on to switch on or off.

I wouldn't mind a toggle switch. If the gather skill is limited to nightmare fuel then using pliers effectively achieves the same function. I'd also be less likely to have it on accidentally.

[Baark0]

if this change isnt made then im either going to be waiting for a mod to come out that disables the feature, or im just not going to bother running an affinity. one of the things i hate the most about games like minecraft is how random items constantly get into your inventory just from walking around and i really dont like the idea of that becoming an issue in dst too.

[ZeRoboButler]

I am all for a toggle, just not the removal of the heart and possessed heart just losing the ability.

(still a little irritated that the hammer spin was removed too rather then activating or deactivating certain modes of swinging for select multitools)

[edulopes]

i am for toggling it on and off, because for me it is better options than limitations

[JazzyGames]

If I may ask, how often are you all utilizing the skill? I ask because if the answer is not very much then why would we opt for a switch that we still need to remember to flip every time we socket an atrium? I don't think separating the skills creates a limitation in any way because it is free to swap.

Edited Wednesday at 09:55 PM by JazzyGames

[doritosdamafia]

1 minute ago, JazzyGames said:

If I may ask, how often are you all utilizing the skill? I ask because if the answer is not very much then why would we opt for a switch that we still need to remember to flip every time we socket an atrium?

most of the time is when in going after light bulb, in the ruins and some times to get free cactus flower in summer

[Soul7k]

it would probably be fine if it only picked up things you already have in your inventory

[doritosdamafia]

10 minutes ago, Soul7k said:

it would probably be fine if it only picked up things you already have in your inventory

i prefer a toggle or make it first try to pick what's in your inventory first, because in this way you can get the hole items in the ruins

[-Nick-]

Yeah this has been quite a minor annoyance. I think another alternative is to make it so it only picks up items that are in your inventory. 

A benefit with this is that it will prioritize items you want to pick up making it faster. Instead of the shadow picking up some random object you didnt want while you are trying to only harvest grass for example.

Edited Wednesday at 10:29 PM by -Nick-

[edulopes]

33 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

If I may ask, how often are you all utilizing the skill? I ask because if the answer is not very much then why would we opt for a switch that we still need to remember to flip every time we socket an atrium? I don't think separating the skills creates a limitation in any way because it is free to unplug, just an additional inconvenience.

i would say i use it realativelly very often, in for example gatering some kelp of a kelp farm(i know you can spin up), sometimes is useful to gater resources outside base, it makes faster to collect things in ruins, in the end it a useful thing to have, not a OMG OP USE ALL TIME but feels nice
(would not count chopping wood because well you can change to farm wood)

[Frashaw27]

Imo, just making it do items in your inventory or ones you are actively picking up would be a good compromise.

[NotGabriel]

58 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

If I may ask, how often are you all utilizing the skill? I ask because if the answer is not very much then why would we opt for a switch that we still need to remember to flip every time we socket an atrium? I don't think separating the skills creates a limitation in any way because it is free to swap.

I think the point is that it’s cool that you can use it with the heart. Picture you’ve just gotten your heart, ready to take on a dangerous area like the ruins, and because you forgot your pliers to switch you can’t get those little freebie loot items. It would be just as inconvenient for people who want to use the ability as it currently is for people who don’t want to use it.

if they did go the route of shadow items having individual powers instead of upgrading yourself they could branch out more and incorporate pure horror, dark tatters, and dreadstone though, so that’d be cool.

[BlueBananaKing]

1 hour ago, NotGabriel said:

I think the point is that it’s cool that you can use it with the heart. Picture you’ve just gotten your heart, ready to take on a dangerous area like the ruins, and because you forgot your pliers to switch you can’t get those little freebie loot items.

pliers cost sticks and rocks, id imagine you bring sticks with you for pickaxes when doing ruins, and rocks fall from the sky.

also, who does shadow pieces before the first ruins visit? wx-78 benefits a lot from an early ruins visit, waiting 20 days to go there seems really wasteful to me.

Edited Wednesday at 11:57 PM by BlueBananaKing

[-Nick-]

12 minutes ago, BlueBananaKing said:

also, who does ruins after shadow pieces?

People who play at their own pace.

No shade to people who rush things but sometimes taking it slow is nice.

[edulopes]

29 minutes ago, BlueBananaKing said:

 

also, who does ruins after shadow pieces? wx-78 benefits a lot from an early ruins visit, waiting 20 days to go there seems really wasteful to me.

lol everyone does, people who do mega base basically do ruins once a year '-'

[NotGabriel]

45 minutes ago, BlueBananaKing said:

pliers cost sticks and rocks, id imagine you bring sticks with you for pickaxes when doing ruins, and rocks fall from the sky.

also, who does ruins after shadow pieces? wx-78 benefits a lot from an early ruins visit, waiting 20 days to go there seems really wasteful to me.

You can visit the ruins more than the first time yknow.. but also maybe I don’t want to rush the ruins right away