wolf5395wolf Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The Dumb states of America tarrifs are gonna make a lot of boardgames be a lot expensive to fly them from Poland to USA 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberSkink Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, wolf5395wolf said: The Dumb states of America tarrifs are gonna make a lot of boardgames be a lot expensive to fly them from Poland to USA Trust me, as a resident of the USA, I hate them too😭 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, CyberSkink said: Trust me, as a resident of the USA, I hate them too😭 Same here 4 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Charlie has better efficts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewski Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 A bit tangential, but Stonmaier Games - the maker of Wingspan - is one of the named plaintiffs in VOS Selections v Trump, the tariff case currently in front of the Supreme Court. A lot of people are expecting a decision on Wednesday (but a lot of people were expecting it last Friday and it didn't happen). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Andrewski said: the Supreme Court we're cooked 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Andrewski said: A bit tangential, but Stonmaier Games - the maker of Wingspan - is one of the named plaintiffs in VOS Selections v Trump, the tariff case currently in front of the Supreme Court. A lot of people are expecting a decision on Wednesday (but a lot of people were expecting it last Friday and it didn't happen). what does that mean? They want tarrifs? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: what does that mean? They want tarrifs? VOS Selections is an importer that sued the Trump administration, arguing he does not have the legal authority to impose tariffs. VOS doesn't want the tariffs because it makes everything more expensive and is bad for their business. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewski Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: what does that mean? Well, no. Let me start by saying I misstated the case: It's Learning Resources, Inc. v Trump. Two cases got "consolidated" - combined into one - and they chose Learning Resources as the caption. But each of those two cases have multiple plaintiffs. The short version is that Trump declared the tariffs by executive order, then a bunch of businesses got together and sued him. One group went to a regular federal district court, where they won. The other went to the Court of International Trade, a specialized federal court. They also won. Both rulings were placed on hold to allow Trump to appeal. Normally these cases would go to "circuit court" for their respective appeals. Those rulings would then be appealed to the nation's highest court, the Supreme Court. In this unusual case, the Supreme Court agreed to skip the intermediate appeal and hear it directly. They've been briefed by everyone and had their public oral argument in November. Now we're awaiting the ruling. If the court rules against Trump (and in favor of the businesses), the government will have to refund tariffs to the businesses that are suing and may have to refund them to all businesses that have paid them. The government won't be allowed to collect these tariffs going forward. If Trump wins, the tariffs will remain in place and go up or down on his whim (unless our weak, feckless, super-corrupt Congress puts a stop to it). Doc Safety is right in that the Supreme Court is notoriously corrupt and partisan. In this case, there's some indication they may rule against Trump, however. The tariff issue is unpopular even with Trump's own party, especially with the big donors who are paying for a party that's good for business. Alito and Thomas are guaranteed to rule for Trump at all times, but oral argument suggested that the other conservatives are not completely on board. Or perhaps I'm an optimist. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Andrewski said: Well, no. Let me start by saying I misstated the case: It's Learning Resources, Inc. v Trump. Two cases got "consolidated" - combined into one - and they chose Learning Resources as the caption. But each of those two cases have multiple plaintiffs. The short version is that Trump declared the tariffs by executive order, then a bunch of businesses got together and sued him. One group went to a regular federal district court, where they won. The other went to the Court of International Trade, a specialized federal court. They also won. Both rulings were placed on hold to allow Trump to appeal. Normally these cases would go to "circuit court" for their respective appeals. Those rulings would then be appealed to the nation's highest court, the Supreme Court. In this unusual case, the Supreme Court agreed to skip the intermediate appeal and hear it directly. They've been briefed by everyone and had their public oral argument in November. Now we're awaiting the ruling. If the court rules against Trump (and in favor of the businesses), the government will have to refund tariffs to the businesses that are suing and may have to refund them to all businesses that have paid them. The government won't be allowed to collect these tariffs going forward. If Trump wins, the tariffs will remain in place and go up or down on his whim (unless our weak, feckless, super-corrupt Congress puts a stop to it). Doc Safety is right in that the Supreme Court is notoriously corrupt and partisan. In this case, there's some indication they may rule against Trump, however. The tariff issue is unpopular even with Trump's own party, especially with the big donors who are paying for a party that's good for business. Alito and Thomas are guaranteed to rule for Trump at all times, but oral argument suggested that the other conservatives are not completely on board. Or perhaps I'm an optimist. isn't trump a convicted felon who had a bunch of judges arrested for following the law? not sure what a court-case against him will do. y'all cooked. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 9 hours ago, wolf5395wolf said: The Dumb states of America tarrifs are gonna make a lot of boardgames be a lot expensive to fly them from Poland to USA The tariffs made everything from overseas so expensive that my local grocery store shut down their British imports section and has increased the price on everything left that's imported massively (and their selection's way smaller now too), we hate the tariffs just as much as you do. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619960620 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, Captain_Rage said: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619960620 lol brain capped at 50 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewski Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 6 hours ago, gaymime said: isn't trump a convicted felon who had a bunch of judges arrested for following the law? not sure what a court-case against him will do. y'all cooked. No, it's worse. He's a convicted felon who's had a judge arrested, but his real move is that his cult threatens and occasionally murders judges who rule against him and he is just as pleased as punch when they do. He also occasionally suggests that he will just ignore the Supreme Court if they push too hard. But as I said, he lost in the lower courts and his party isn't backing him completely on this one, so there's a sliver of hope on this one, specific thing. We'll likely know more this week. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 7 minutes ago, Andrewski said: No, it's worse. He's a convicted felon who's had a judge arrested, but his real move is that his cult threatens and occasionally murders judges who rule against him and he is just as pleased as punch when they do. He also occasionally suggests that he will just ignore the Supreme Court if they push too hard. But as I said, he lost in the lower courts and his party isn't backing him completely on this one, so there's a sliver of hope on this one, specific thing. We'll likely know more this week. Also Hes on the list and has killed children. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169547-the-usa-tarrifs/#findComment-1849218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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