Ruins and Lunar Grotto/Archives generation

[Echsrick]

On 10/4/2025 at 3:27 PM, Milordo said:

 

(Behold! The famous Bermuda Triangle! Guaranteed to spawn for every Altars Room in the Ruins by the way.)

what if this is for future boss fight arena on shadow boss where something big spawns out the hole and like you need to move all around that triangle?

it would be terrible probably

[slendyproject]

2 hours ago, Milordo said:

Saying you can go by design to the Ruins immediately is a grave error, in fact the Ruins entrance in the first Don't Starve is completely utterly different. I thought I made it clear in the post. By design, Klei rushed and attached Ruins to the Caves in Dst without any second thoughts and changed the level structure design for those tecnical problems, that's the design. It is by design, to hastly build a broken messy bridge in real life? Also it's good design for people to traverse it, even if broken? Second, using the sandbox card is another grave error. I will no go futher because too long and even too trivial to explain it, but you can use it in so many ways, that it will sounds childish as "just don't use it" or something like that. I know you responded to hungry french, and I know he tends to have extreme takes, but he's quite right. The entrance to the Ruins, should be more difficult, or atleast more demanding, since the importance of the level. Which also means a ton of things. Nobody here is saying (I hope) that more difficult equals just more empty land to explore. I don't think any sane player would ask for that. It can comes in various ways.

I appreciate the detailed response even if we dont entirely agree. The main thing I want to add to this part is that when I say its by design that we can easily get to the ruins I mean that while originally this might have been the result of a janky worldgen solution if klei wanted to, they could have changed the mode of entering at any point since DST released (which is quite a long time ago). DS was designed more than 10 years ago and I dont think it represents the current design philosophies of DST at all. Both of these lead me to think that the ruins being available earlier than in the original game was kept around intentionally. "By design" was probably not the best way to phrase that.

[Milordo]

On 10/23/2025 at 2:43 AM, Larael said:

1. The devs say that they want to leave worldgen and not touch it anymore.

I'm confused, you say it as a fact, like they said it somewhere else? Or you're supposing from my post or yourself? 

On 10/23/2025 at 2:43 AM, Larael said:

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Very cool informative piece of the new tech of Ancient Echoes' and worldgen! Thanks! 

On 10/23/2025 at 5:05 AM, Echsrick said:

what if this is for future boss fight arena on shadow boss where something big spawns out the hole and like you need to move all around that triangle?

it would be terrible probably

Yeah, I guess, why not.

[Larael]

14 hours ago, Milordo said:

you say it as a fact, like they said it somewhere else? Or you're supposing from my post or yourself? 

As a fact in their last update stream they said something like "move apart from world gen" not the exact words but yeah the intention is kinda clear.