SpamBot0147 Posted September 30, 2025 Share Posted September 30, 2025 (edited) Ok, first some background. I play no mods, only vanilla DST megabase long worlds. Have couple k hours in DST like most of players that start dwelling on the forums, I presume. I do enjoy making farms, amassing resources that I will never need and etc. Overall you can summarize me as that kinda builder/ collector with too much perfectionism and free time. I want to say that never since I have started playing DST have I hated on Klei, in fact I think they are an amazing team and they have so much passion making the game. BUT, last update is 'beyond garbage'. I have never been disappointed that much. I am hard to disappoint in fact, I didn't mind the Dragonfly Year update, lol. But this "update" should not have been released... Let me quickly state what bothers me personally and what implications I see in it for the rest of community. So logging in my 5K day world I was expecting to get new biome retrofitted, well now I know that it doesn't happen, you get a wormhole. Breaks the logic and consistency of the game, but whatever... apparently its been a thing before with lunar cave biome. Whatever. So I decided that at least I will get the wormhole to spawn close to my cave base (next to blue mushroom forest cave exit), well it appears it can spawn only in certain places. (I didnt check the code or anything, but I would copy my world and test it there, by reloading the caves and running map command to see where the wormhole spawns, and it consistently would choose to spawn in 2 most useless biomes in the cave: swamp and plain forest. Moreover, it would spawn in the specific subbiome parts of those. In over 150 tries it spawned only once elsewhere, which if I remember correctly was somewhere around Toad.) Well, fine I said, lets get over with this wormhole and start playing, exciting!!! (I thought). The retrofitted island is so so so small (thats what she said). Normally you get 80-100 new rock trees. Well, people with retrofitting will have to deal with 20-30. Actually less, cus you know the mini boss doesn't care about breaking them so the plant itself doesn't drop. Wonderful! Are they renewable? SURE they said! :"They multiply in the biome if some are present and in case all of them are gone the new ones spawn. Well, in my experience only 2 new ones appeared in around 250+ days that I have played in this world since release. So they do grow if none are present, but no they don't multiply further, that's for sure. (Im not even speaking of fume boulders (whatever they are called), these dudes have been completely annihilated out of existence by the new mini-boss. Great, so the new biome was rendered completely useless and hardly accessible in less than 200 days, I am not even mentioning the new archives... lore is cool, but khm you know its empty, annoying to go to and very confusing to navigate (which would be fine IF there was some kind of reward at the end, for now you just published an update that has 1 empty biome and 1 biome that becomes empty in 200 days). Well, its ok not every update should be great (im looking at you dragonfly year), but at least its stable right? Right? ye, sure, the earthquakes are messed up now, big earthquake boulders don't fall, antlion boulders fall SOMETIMES (yet bridges still get damaged by non appearing boulders). The new biome doesn't sync with acid rain and even regular rocks dont fall there during earthquake, ok Im not sure whats that about. When, I came close to Pearl, she gave me second pearl... (Im not sure if its another bug from this update, or she just felt sorry that I had to witness that mess of an update). Then, in a whirlpool items do not transition properly (my first wooden boat got delivered by parts, I know cus all other times i used grass one, but boards appeared more than once. And lastly the Y axis problem, oh yea, a lot have already been said in the discussions about that but in my case, I was just about to set wanda's clock on top of antlion's head. But this instance is nothing compared to what other players had to deal with (Turbina prob went insane after all hours spent on building that moon castle). So let me summarize the update FOR MY personal taste... if we start from 5/10, we have -1 for non renewable biome features, -1 for generation issues, -1 for all new bugs and glitches, -1 for new mob being literally 'non-interactable' with additional perk of permanently destroying new resources. +2 for new archive biome with lore and a promising final boss, right away subtract -1 cus it has no boss, Im barely holding myself from actually taking one more point away for the lore, cus in reality there is not that much of it that has been added. We have speculated on it for years and most of the things are merely a confirmations of what we though, but its fine lore is lore, you cant hate it. Well, and im not even sure how much I should subtract for Y axis and 3D building, 5 point? 10? 100? I mean insane amount of farms have been rendered useless. Astonishing builds have been destroyed. Super clever tactics that make you think outside the box - gone. Super cool possible speedruns: just the other day I saw a guy defeat BQ in less than 9 min on an unseeded world using Y axis... Insanely large part of the game has been permanently damaged. This update has actually deleted from the game way way more than it has brought (assuming 2 empty biomes can be considered as "something"). (For some reason I can use enter to start another paragraph here, bruh, sorry that you will have to read it as one big wall of text). Edit: Somehow now I can break the lines with enter, no idea what changed... Thus, Ill try to be short. The implications that I see from these changes, are actually the ones that have been brought up by some chinese players. Back then I didn't agree much to what they were saying, as I had more optimistic vision for what Klei intend. But this update actually has woken me up, this is why I decide to write my complains in the first place. Now, I feel like I can not do anything, but agree with what have been stated by those chinese players. The ABSOLUTE MUST that Klei have to do is to LISTEN TO VETERANS, CODE-DWELLERS and EXPERIENCED PLAYERS. Their focus for mainstream/general audience will eventually harm the game, new mechanics are TOO plain, they are 'UNCREATIVE'. Meanwhile old mechanics get eradicated gradually. And it would be fine if Klei took a stance and proposed that they will fix up all the bugs and make sure that game runs smooth and fine, but no it is not their policy (and if it is if would be actually hypocritical as I would further explain), their policy is to torch anything that gets in the way of their "intended way". Boats and docks, are still most messed up features in this game, fixed? Nah. Spider... ye people talked about it just couple of topics below, incredible how you cant farm spiders in the game where farming spiders is one of the oldest and most fundamental mechanics. Beefalo renewable? No. Wendy skill tree mechanics fixed? No. Settings for world regrowth fixed? No. DS games running smooth on other platforms? No. Does my computer almost explode when I come within the 5 tile range of my grass farm (its not even that big), yes absolutely yes. Can you build on water yes. Can you crash a server with a spider queen yes. I can go on for ever. My point is not that these bugs are bad, should be fixed or should be preserved. My problem is that Klei actually doesn't care to investigate it, and doesn't care to actually listen to their most loyal and experienced fans. Before I was neglecting these ideas, but recently I started noticing how little developers actually know about their own mechanics. When I read the comment, that no-one in Klei office has know about 3D building, I was shocked. I can argue that even new-ish players with 100-200 hours are very likely to know about it. Im sorry, but OrangE - one of the largest DST channels with 200Ksub has made like 3 videos just about that mechanic, besides mentioning and showcasing it in every other video whenever he could. This is unbelievable to me and is probably the worst part of this whole controversy that was raised on the forums. (Please, don't think that I am hating on developers specifically, or even on some one particular, no they are people, and it is their job only. We spend hours in this game because we choose to, they have it as a job, so it is inherently tedious and they are not obligated to care more than they have in their working hours). Klei must re-evaluate their approach. I know what I am about to say might seem unimportant, but I believe it really is. The glitch mechanics, bugs and gimmics are most important aspects of the game to have a health community. Logic is simple, for veterans bosses are merely bosses, seasons all alike to autumn. The so called "late game stuff" is actually not at all. The thing that actually represents the late-game gameplay and keeps veterans playing is the opportunity to investigate intricate and unintended game mechanics, find a way to control them, do a lot of grinding, testing and planning, just to come up with some interesting idea. This keeps them engaged, this keeps me engaged. If stuff like void walk and 3D building keeps getting patched, and only polished, plain and non-creative mechanics are added instead, the veterans will leave. When they leave, the content produced and discussions raised will wither. That will cause youtubers to be unable to find inspirations and communicate it with mass audience, which in its turn will inevitably harm the wider community and eventually lead to game's decay. Last, words. Im sorry if my text is hard to read/comprehend, I am writing it late at night and I didn't plan how to explain my ideas in the best way, I just had this immense feeling of sadness caused by last update, and I decided to say what I think. Klei I still love you, not even still, I just love you, you are great, you made many good and interesting updates, your game is flourishing from the artistic stand of point as lore keeps advancing and every other creature added keeps amazing me with cool features and ideas that they bring in. But you must pivot some of your attention to what happens regarding game's more sophisticated aspects. There are many players who are enthusiastic to provide help in reaching this middle ground. Peace. Edited September 30, 2025 by SpamBot0147 Initial Text was too hard to read as just a big text wall 2 1 1 1 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 30, 2025 Share Posted September 30, 2025 TL:DR- Long past ranting about removal of Y-Axis glitches & Bugs even though Klei programmed in a way to continue using the Exploit. But I do agree the new biome feels incomplete, and I expect part 2 of that update will finalize it with more detail & hopefully a cool new mob or two. 4 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamBot0147 Posted September 30, 2025 Author Share Posted September 30, 2025 1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said: TL:DR- Long past ranting about removal of Y-Axis glitches & Bugs even though Klei programmed in a way to continue using the Exploit. But I do agree the new biome feels incomplete, and I expect part 2 of that update will finalize it with more detail & hopefully a cool new mob or two. Y axis is not the point of the ranting. The problem is the approach. Also, “programming in” a command feels like cheating. I think this problem have been mentioned. And as I explained in the very beginning im all vanilla, i don’t use mods, i don’t apply commands, i almost never rollback. Outsmarting the system is fun, changing the system to look smart is not fun… I know my writing was long and hard to read, but it really sad to see people just misinterpret what I tried to say. Besides that I really don’t understand why we need part 2 for two empty biomes, when we could have just waited until the update well put together, instead of running with underprepared content… 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovens Posted September 30, 2025 Share Posted September 30, 2025 (edited) I agree with the retrofitting of the new biome being super underwhelming and unfair for the old worlds. I don't even want to touch the stupid sentipede if it makes those cool new trees extinct. There should be a way to get more of those seeds somehow and GDW is not the answer. My friend and I just spent two seasons straight in the caves without leaving and no GDW spawned, it's already such a rare boss and the seed is not even a guaranteed drop. It's as if they made stone fruit seeds only renewable by farming, idk, Mutated Bearger or something like that. Boulderboughs should be self-sufficient and have a chance for their vines to sometimes dig up an extra seed when they grow in Fumarole biome. Then there will be a decent incentive to farm them there instead of cleaning the biome and never visiting it again. This update was disappointing to me but not so much as the previous two. The complete destruction of Pearl's island only to turn it into yet another desolete ugly boss arena was horrible and forever ruined the newly added Lunar Arc to me, to the point where I never want to ever interact with this part of the game and progress to Scion. And electric fires caused by moongleams on plant mobs are super obnoxious and don't have decent counter measures AND yet they still can't be toggled off in the settings. But hey, we got new lore. The magic word that makes everyone lose their heads and praise Klei, no matter how questionable and bad the rest of the update is. I wonder if there is a single other person on these forums who doesn't care about lore in the slightest and would rather have the enjoyable parts of the game NOT ruined for them in favor of adding the new lore. I don't want any new lore or story telling if it kills my love for the game. Edited September 30, 2025 by Lovens 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamBot0147 Posted September 30, 2025 Author Share Posted September 30, 2025 (edited) 22 hours ago, Lovens said: I agree with the retrofitting of the new biome being super underwhelming and unfair for the old worlds. I don't even want to touch the stupid sentipede if it makes those cool new trees extinct. There should be a way to get more of those seeds somehow and GDW is not the answer. My friend and I just spent two seasons straight in the caves without leaving and no GDW spawned, it's already such a rare boss and the seed is not even a guaranteed drop. It's as if they made stone fruit seeds only renewable by farming, idk, Mutated Bearger or something like that. Boulderboughs should be self-sufficient and have a chance for their vines to sometimes dig up an extra seed when they grow in Fumarole biome. Then there will be a decent incentive to farm them there instead of cleaning the biome and never visiting it again. This update was disappointing to me but not so much as the previous two. The complete destruction of Pearl's island only to turn it into yet another desolete ugly boss arena was horrible and forever ruined the newly added Lunar Arc to me, to the point where I never want to ever interact with this part of the game and progress to Scion. And electric fires caused by moongleams on plant mobs are super obnoxious and don't have decent counter measures AND yet they still can't be toggled off in the settings. But hey, we got new lore. The magic word that makes everyone lose their heads and praise Klei, no matter how questionable and bad the rest of the update is. I wonder if there is a single other person on these forums who doesn't care about lore in the slightest and would rather have the enjoyable parts of the game NOT ruined for them in favor of adding the new lore. I don't want any new lore or story telling if it kills my love for the game. Hi, thanks for your response, I think our options are quite similar, I have noticed that reading your other comments. Is it possible that we exchange some contact info, so I could talk to you directly? Edited October 1, 2025 by SpamBot0147 PI was shared 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovens Posted September 30, 2025 Share Posted September 30, 2025 5 minutes ago, SpamBot0147 said: Hi, thanks for your response, I think our options are quite similar, I have noticed that reading your other comments. Is it possible that we exchange some contact info, so I could talk to you directly? If you want to add me on steam: fery_yyy I replied to you in dm on the forums. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Nano Posted September 30, 2025 Share Posted September 30, 2025 I anticipated this update mostly to get some nice skins but even skins were kind of disappointing to me. Like come one klei added more ancient civilization lore and stuff, why they added some shrek swamp skins instead of ancient skins + 3 archaic characters bundle. Even survivor skin pack was incomplete, wanda didnt survive (as Frosty Mentos said, time didnt permit lol). But I saw some posts where ppl like new skins so I guess its individual thing. Speaking of actual new content, I like new trees, they are decent source of rocks, twigs, nitre and other stuff. Even gems if you plant them in right spot. What I didnt like is way new biome gets added to older worlds. Its just a wormhole hidden somewhere on the edge of the world and its near to impossible to spot unless you use c_gonext() cmd. And retrofitted biome is way smaller than in new worlds. Im not huge fan of playing on same world for thousands of days but I can feel disappointment of ppl who do so. Also I didnt like ripple aka megablight. As devs said, it was ancients companion. I assume it was good companion for torturing enemies of ancients. Ancients could tie you and force to watch ripple going in circles and avoiding miasma and boulder trees for hours. Its even worse than ancient chinese water drop torture. And you cant even do anything about it, you can only watch and lose your mind because of how stupid its ai is. Whirlpool and new sanctum are things I dont really care about so I got nothing to say there. Didnt use exploits that got fixed but I think people who used those exploits should have seen that coming. Some guys complain like klei removed some intended mechanic or feature and this is weird to me. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamBot0147 Posted September 30, 2025 Author Share Posted September 30, 2025 2 hours ago, Tigris Nano said: I anticipated this update mostly to get some nice skins but even skins were kind of disappointing to me. Like come one klei added more ancient civilization lore and stuff, why they added some shrek swamp skins instead of ancient skins + 3 archaic characters bundle. Even survivor skin pack was incomplete, wanda didnt survive (as Frosty Mentos said, time didnt permit lol). But I saw some posts where ppl like new skins so I guess its individual thing. Speaking of actual new content, I like new trees, they are decent source of rocks, twigs, nitre and other stuff. Even gems if you plant them in right spot. What I didnt like is way new biome gets added to older worlds. Its just a wormhole hidden somewhere on the edge of the world and its near to impossible to spot unless you use c_gonext() cmd. And retrofitted biome is way smaller than in new worlds. Im not huge fan of playing on same world for thousands of days but I can feel disappointment of ppl who do so. Also I didnt like ripple aka megablight. As devs said, it was ancients companion. I assume it was good companion for torturing enemies of ancients. Ancients could tie you and force to watch ripple going in circles and avoiding miasma and boulder trees for hours. Its even worse than ancient chinese water drop torture. And you cant even do anything about it, you can only watch and lose your mind because of how stupid its ai is. Whirlpool and new sanctum are things I dont really care about so I got nothing to say there. Didnt use exploits that got fixed but I think people who used those exploits should have seen that coming. Some guys complain like klei removed some intended mechanic or feature and this is weird to me. Haha, your comment on the ripple is hilarious. On the other side, I am surprised that klei did delete this mechanic, because for the long time I didn’t even know it was considered as an exploit. The physics of collision felt so natural and consistent that I did in fact think that such collisions are intended by developers. In fact first time I ever saw it was back before 2020, when I have hit the juicy berry bush and one of the berries dropped exactly on the side of the nearby fence and kept standing in there. I was like whooooa, this game has 3d collision this is insane, such a thought out project… I thought at the time. Well, I guess its never have been so in this particular instance. So you kinda can not blame players for thinking it IS a part of the game, cus it is/was more consistent in terms of logic and physics, than new update… 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted September 30, 2025 Share Posted September 30, 2025 (edited) Not trying to be a buttmunch, but please break up the post into sections with line breaks or something. This is quite difficult to read. Edit: Thank you! Edited October 1, 2025 by Evelo 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamBot0147 Posted September 30, 2025 Author Share Posted September 30, 2025 37 minutes ago, AliceShiki said: *sees thread title* *sees username* *sees utter and total lack of formatting in the first post* ... Is this bait that people are falling for because they aren't used to bait posts? In other forums this would instantly be called out as bait. Food for thought, I suppose. It's not common to see bait posts in an official forum meant to give feedback to developers, but it's certainly not impossible for it to happen... Oh well, it doesn't really matter either way. Hah, ok I cant blame you for thinking it is a rage bait, but its actually not, lol, now when you mentioned it I cant stop smiling at how bad it looks all together. But I am sorry for writing this wall of text, somewhere down the line I did mention that, for some reason I couldn't press "enter" to space things out. My language and punctuation might be very shitty too cus eng is not my native language and I was writing that post like around 5/6AM my time... And for some reason here I can just press enter and move to another line, I have no Idea what is up with the original post. bruh 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted September 30, 2025 Share Posted September 30, 2025 2 hours ago, AliceShiki said: *sees thread title* *sees username* *sees utter and total lack of formatting in the first post* ... Is this bait that people are falling for because they aren't used to bait posts? In other forums this would instantly be called out as bait. Food for thought, I suppose. It's not common to see bait posts in an official forum meant to give feedback to developers, but it's certainly not impossible for it to happen... Oh well, it doesn't really matter either way. Nobody is falling for anything, just because someone isn't as literate as you doesn't mean they're trying to trick anyone. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popian Posted October 1, 2025 Share Posted October 1, 2025 4 hours ago, AliceShiki said: Is this bait Alt or not the talking points are mostly fair and look genuine to me. We know that they are putting in a lot of effort and that things haven't been exactly going according to plan. The reason why Pearl was reset was that a build that was ported to consoles had her eating everything she could get her hands on, which affected console players for about 6 weeks. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted October 1, 2025 Share Posted October 1, 2025 This is definitely another reason Klei really needs to avoid doing more "theme park" additions to the game. Since the map is already a specified size, retrofitting into an older world becomes more and more difficult the more they add. We have plenty of older biomes that could easily add new content to without adding new land masses. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamBot0147 Posted October 1, 2025 Author Share Posted October 1, 2025 9 hours ago, Uedo said: Nobody is falling for anything, just because someone isn't as literate as you doesn't mean they're trying to trick anyone. Hahahha, lmao, its funny that you defend my well meant intentions through calling me illiterate. 💀 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted October 1, 2025 Share Posted October 1, 2025 21 minutes ago, SpamBot0147 said: Hahahha, lmao, its funny that you defend my well meant intentions through calling me illiterate. 💀 Nah I wouldn't do that - I only say literate as it pertains to literacy. I wasn't saying you were illiterate, I said you weren't AS literate, just that you didn't meet the imaginary standard AliceShiki has for you to be taken seriously. I think you're perfectly literate, albeit a bit of a manic typer (me too! :D) 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1837841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted October 7, 2025 Share Posted October 7, 2025 (edited) On 9/30/2025 at 12:39 PM, Lovens said: There should be a way to get more of those seeds somehow and GDW is not the answer. My friend and I just spent two seasons straight in the caves without leaving and no GDW spawned, it's already such a rare boss and the seed is not even a guaranteed drop. It's as if they made stone fruit seeds only renewable by farming, idk, Mutated Bearger or something like that. If you're curious since it took me a loooot of time and care and dedication and love. I have said during beta, the new addition would have done literally nothing, if point 1), 2) and 3) weren't touched. I'll fight and keep trying. Edited October 7, 2025 by Milordo 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted October 7, 2025 Share Posted October 7, 2025 On 30.09.2025 at 05:12, SpamBot0147 said: Бифало возобновляемый ресурс? There are a lot of non-renewable resources missing from the game. There are tons of them. I'm especially sorry for the tentacles and the gems... I'm the only one who actually mined them for the gem. You might be surprised, but I'm going to say that new trees shouldn't be transplanted. And you shouldn't get their seeds in any way. Although I disagree with many of your other points. I'm sorry, but building mega bases is the second worst part of the game, after the bosses that you spend half an hour killing with incredible pleasure. What is the basis for the construction of mega bases? Terraforming nature and bringing everything to one place. This is terrible from the point of view of survival, it not only deprives all the magic of walking through biomes for the sake of resources, but you can turn any biome into a safe one with your own hands (with the exception of ruins and mouse caves). I understand' that creativity should be encouraged... But there must be a separate mode for this... cactuses and reeds are the best plants in the game. It's only thanks to them that I get the idea "he can go to the desert and the swamp." And it's cool when you want to go back to the biome. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamBot0147 Posted October 8, 2025 Author Share Posted October 8, 2025 17 hours ago, Hungry French said: There are a lot of non-renewable resources missing from the game. There are tons of them. I'm especially sorry for the tentacles and the gems... I'm the only one who actually mined them for the gem. You might be surprised, but I'm going to say that new trees shouldn't be transplanted. And you shouldn't get their seeds in any way. Although I disagree with many of your other points. I'm sorry, but building mega bases is the second worst part of the game, after the bosses that you spend half an hour killing with incredible pleasure. What is the basis for the construction of mega bases? Terraforming nature and bringing everything to one place. This is terrible from the point of view of survival, it not only deprives all the magic of walking through biomes for the sake of resources, but you can turn any biome into a safe one with your own hands (with the exception of ruins and mouse caves). I understand' that creativity should be encouraged... But there must be a separate mode for this... cactuses and reeds are the best plants in the game. It's only thanks to them that I get the idea "he can go to the desert and the swamp." And it's cool when you want to go back to the biome. Im sorry, but whats so bad about building mega base? why is it second to worst thing to do? I don’t think mega basing is different in nature to just basing… I doubt you would hate on “basing”. You can build a base, no problem, you can build a bigger one, no problem, you can build a very very big one… how come you have a problem with that? And please don’t bring survival, I can practically survive indefinitely in dragonfly desert without even placing a single structure… the game is not much about survival anymore especially with overpowered skilltrees, so pls 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted October 8, 2025 Share Posted October 8, 2025 21 minutes ago, SpamBot0147 said: Im sorry, but whats so bad about building mega base? why is it second to worst thing to do? I don’t think mega basing is different in nature to just basing… I doubt you would hate on “basing”. You can build a base, no problem, you can build a bigger one, no problem, you can build a very very big one… how come you have a problem with that? And please don’t bring survival, I can practically survive indefinitely in dragonfly desert without even placing a single structure… the game is not much about survival anymore especially with overpowered skilltrees, so pls The worst part of mega bases is based on the transfer of resources. It doesn't matter that yours is big, but what matters is that you have 40 berry bushes, 40 moonstone bushes, etc. in your base. It's not cool. And of course, the "farms". Where 40 pigs or hares or spiders die in 10 seconds. Can you survive without structures? In theory, yes. But you can't survive without structures. Let's see how you survive with Rabbit Earmuffs in winter. Especially if you don't have access to an endless source of heat, balanced cactus'es and tumbleweeds during it. If the game is not about living, then what is it about? Survival is the best part of the game. The rest of its aspects are several times worse. Why make the best aspect worse with each update is not clear to me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted October 8, 2025 Share Posted October 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Hungry French said: The worst part of mega bases is based on the transfer of resources. It doesn't matter that yours is big, but what matters is that you have 40 berry bushes, 40 moonstone bushes, etc. in your base. It's not cool. And of course, the "farms". Where 40 pigs or hares or spiders die in 10 seconds. Can you survive without structures? In theory, yes. But you can't survive without structures. Let's see how you survive with Rabbit Earmuffs in winter. Especially if you don't have access to an endless source of heat, balanced cactus'es and tumbleweeds during it. If the game is not about living, then what is it about? Survival is the best part of the game. The rest of its aspects are several times worse. Why make the best aspect worse with each update is not clear to me. So it's not cool that the person manages to progress the game? Like they're now able to steadily support themselves with the effort they put in to get those resources and farms and that's bad? 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted October 8, 2025 Share Posted October 8, 2025 (edited) On 10/8/2025 at 10:13 PM, Hungry French said: If the game is not about living, then what is it about? Survival is the best part of the game. The rest of its aspects are several times worse. Why make the best aspect worse with each update is not clear to me. That's because this is a "Fight, Farm, Build and Explore Together" game, and the "uncompromising wilderness survival" game only applies to solo Don't Starve. This game is based on the resource replanting system of solo Don't Starve, and that's the kind of game it is from first. Edited October 10, 2025 by SilverSpoon 3 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted October 8, 2025 Share Posted October 8, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hungry French said: The worst part of mega bases is based on the transfer of resources. It doesn't matter that yours is big, but what matters is that you have 40 berry bushes, 40 moonstone bushes, etc. in your base. It's not cool. Can you explain exactly what you find fun about walking across the caves to a distant biome just to chop and mine boulderbough trees? Do you play Wanda or Wortox? Edited October 8, 2025 by cybers2001 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted October 8, 2025 Share Posted October 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Radicaljoe said: So it's not cool that the person manages to progress the game? Like they're now able to steadily support themselves with the effort they put in to get those resources and farms and that's bad? No, it's not bad. But it's too easy for players to achieve this, which makes the game balance and gameplay too monotonous. No, it's not bad. But it's too easy for players to achieve this, which makes the game balance and gameplay too monotonous. This is a survival game. Different resources and different food are needed just so that you can "Not starve" everywhere. And so the game turns into a "Try Starve" 1 hour ago, cybers2001 said: Can you explain exactly what you find fun about walking across the caves to a distant biome just to chop and mine boulderbough trees? This is a survival game. Walking through biomes, encountering fauna and extracting different resources is fun. And if you have everything on the base... Then it gets boring. There is literally almost nothing to do. And if you have all the resources, then survival sucks... 1 hour ago, cybers2001 said: Do you play Wanda or Wortox? I've played the Wortox 1 time. The worst character is he's not funny. Wanda is interesting in general, although not fully implemented, but I will not fully play them until I find a fashion for weakening + weakening teleportation. 2 hours ago, SilverSpoon said: That's because this is a "Fight, Farm, Build and Explore Together" game, and the "uncompromising wilderness survival" game only applies to solo Don't Starve. This game is based on the resource replanting system of solo Don't Starve, and that's the kind of game it is at first. Well, this is a standalone expansion for Don't Starve. I wouldn't have a question if this game hadn't become the main one and was the only one receiving updates. Obviously, I'm looking forward to an uncompromising experience in a game that some one call a sequel lol. So I'm waiting for some support from Klei for a more classic, uncompromising gameplay, as well as single player mode, etc. And the addition of non-ported content. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamBot0147 Posted October 9, 2025 Author Share Posted October 9, 2025 5 hours ago, Hungry French said: This is a survival game. Walking through biomes, encountering fauna and extracting different resources is fun. And if you have everything on the base... Then it gets boring. There is literally almost nothing to do. And if you have all the resources, then survival sucks... Guys I gave walked through biome but encountered no fun, instructions unclear what do I do? Just keep walking? Ok, but with all seriousness, people shouldn’t complain when other people get updates that benefit their play style more than of others, you can’t say what the game is about because the concept of it is not set in stone, it CAN change and it CAN be many things in one, but saying some playstyle is worst thing to do is kinda cringe. Having current world at 5K+ I still have a lot to do and build, yes I practically can no die, yet I do, because at that point it becomes about time spending: aka you want to cut corners - many of them, so you do increasingly more reckless things and end up as a ghost, its still fun and is still survival, only instead of “can I find chester before day 11” you go “can I go through the whole map to ruins to craft 10 GA fit them in my inventory and come back before my hunger runs out cus I don’t want to waste time cooking”… 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baark0 Posted October 9, 2025 Share Posted October 9, 2025 The biggest issue I have with latest update is that apparently some of the sanctum biomes don't retrofit correctly into worlds that had been played at least once since the previous update came out. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168231-im-here-to-complain/#findComment-1839223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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