Health scaling

[Plasma cyst]

Please add health scaling the boss HP amounts are getting really high and are taking a while they don't even have to be as low as the og don't starve boss health just please

[POOH_LY]

I think the problem is that a lot of players are already used to this kind of health pool (myself included, to the point where DS bosses feel so weak when I play it.) That and the fact the characters keep getting stronger and stronger, nerfing the HP might make bosses feel less satisfying. But that might be just me. But I think in MP, some bosses really do need more health.

[BENS936]

try the automatic health adjust mod !

[Sacco]

16 hours ago, Plasma cyst said:

Please add health scaling the boss HP amounts are getting really high and are taking a while they don't even have to be as low as the og don't starve boss health just please

Honestly, due to how broken characters got, now bosses feel so so weak. If i was to add health scaling i’d just increase the boss’ health when other players are online on the server or in the near vicinity of the boss…

[Cheggf]

If any health scaling were introduced it would exclusively be in the upwards direction. 

[Hungry French]

On 22.07.2025 at 10:28, Sacco said:

Честно говоря, из-за того, насколько слабыми стали персонажи, боссы теперь кажутся такими же слабыми. Если бы я добавлял масштабирование здоровья, я бы просто увеличивал запас здоровья босса, когда другие игроки находятся на сервере или поблизости от босса…

Wilson

It definitely needs to be done. 
At least to maintain a balance between solo and multiplayer.
In general, ideally, the health of bosses and mobs should be more logical for the atmosphere.
Well, as for me, strong characters should be weaker so that their disadvantages match their advantages.

[cropo]

Can't really do it anymore with characters like Willow who can just blast 750 damage out in a controllable AOE. Try the adjusted health mod and fight some of the new bosses like Werepig, and spam Willows lunar blast exclusively. They go down like chumps with single-player health. Other abilities that improve DPS above what used to be possible like Maxwells shadow clones, lunar gear, Wormwoods changes to his bramble armor etc would completely wreck Singleplayer.


An HP downscale would need to be accompanied by various nerfs on a lot of character damages. I personally would welcome a global nerf to both player and boss healths with a toggle since no amount of words will convince me it's fun to fight something alone with 22k health but just lowering the health on its own is no longer really a workable idea. 


We're also much better than we were 10 years ago, so characters like WX and Wolfgang who seemed incredibly difficult to maintain in order to get their bonuses are really...not hard to maintain at all and just get massive upsides. I don't even want to know how an average Wolfgang experience is in Singleplayer, you'd probably yawn and everything around you would just die.

[POOH_LY]

17 minutes ago, cropo said:

An HP downscale would need to be accompanied by various nerfs on a lot of character damages. I personally would welcome a global nerf to both player and boss healths with a toggle since no amount of words will convince me it's fun to fight something alone with 22k health but just lowering the health on its own is no longer really a workable idea. 

That's gonna take a tremendous amount of work to balance. Items, skills, character perks, bosses, and many more have to be rebalanced, I think.

[cropo]

2 minutes ago, POOH_LY said:

That's gonna take a tremendous amount of work to balance. Items, skills, character perks, bosses, and many more have to be rebalanced, I think.

Yeah so it's likely never gonna happen. Just lowering the HP is no longer going to cut it. I tried playing with HP adjust because I wanted it to feel more like Singleplayer, used Willows lunar blast and was like "Oh yeah, why do I even need this mod again?" and turned it off.

[Hungry French]

21 minutes ago, cropo said:

С такими персонажами, как Уиллоу, которые могут нанести 750 единиц урона в контролируемой области, это уже не работает. Попробуйте мод с корректировкой здоровья и сразитесь с новыми боссами, такими как Оборотень-Свинья, используя исключительно «Лунный взрыв» Уиллоу. Они падут как кегли с уровнем здоровья, как в одиночной игре. Другие способности, повышающие урон в секунду по сравнению с тем, что было раньше, такие как теневые клоны Максвелла, лунное снаряжение, изменения в доспехах Червоточины и т. д., полностью разрушат одиночную игру.


Снижение максимального запаса здоровья должно сопровождаться различными ослаблениями урона, наносимого многими персонажами. Лично я был бы рад глобальному ослаблению здоровья как игроков, так и боссов с возможностью переключения, потому что никакие слова не убедят меня в том, что сражаться в одиночку с 22 000 единиц здоровья весело. Но просто снизить здоровье — это уже не рабочая идея.


Мы также стали намного лучше, чем были 10 лет назад, поэтому таких персонажей, как WX и Вольфганг, за которыми, казалось, было невероятно сложно ухаживать, чтобы получить их бонусы, на самом деле... совсем не сложно содержать, и они дают огромные преимущества. Я даже не хочу знать, как в среднем проходит игра за Вольфганга в одиночном режиме, вы, наверное, заскучаете, и всё вокруг вас просто умрёт.

Ironically, the single-player game has become more adequate (not for all characters).
And the multiplayer game has become much easier than what it was in 2016-2018 XD.

Just now, cropo said:

Да, так что, скорее всего, этого никогда не произойдёт. Одного снижения уровня здоровья уже недостаточно. Я попробовал настроить уровень здоровья, потому что хотел, чтобы игра больше походила на одиночную, использовал лунный взрыв Уиллоу и подумал: «О да, зачем мне вообще этот мод?» — и отключил его.

Therefore, we need a mod to reduce Willow damage.
Many mobs from DS have not increased their hp. And some are only 1.5 or 2 times. And they disappear because of Willow. 
Only on bosses like Ancient Guardian it doesn't look bad, because their hp is 4 times higher lol. Dragonfly, Toadstool and Beequeen and other x10 lol.

[POOH_LY]

3 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Ironically, the single-player game has become more adequate (not for all characters).
And the multiplayer game has become much easier than what it was in 2016-2018 XD.

What's hard about the single player version is not the mobs or bosses. (At least for SW and Hamlet) It's the seasonal effects, like flooding, fog, meteors, the aporkalypse. Combat there is very easy since you can just stack both slot of armors, and nothing can harm you.

[Milordo]

Here we go again...

[Hungry French]

6 minutes ago, POOH_LY said:

Самое сложное в одиночной игре — это не мобы или боссы. (По крайней мере, в SW и Hamlet) Это сезонные эффекты, такие как наводнения, туман, метеоры, апокалипсис. Сражаться там очень легко, потому что можно просто надеть оба комплекта брони, и ничто не сможет вам навредить.

It's the same in DST... Just a little bit better...

[Michachu]

1 hour ago, Hungry French said:

It's the same in DST... Just a little bit better...

How is it same? Could you please explain?? Oh yeah, i just realized that Klei isn't a k japanese name. Until now, it was looking like so. 

Edited July 23, 2025 by Michachu

[Larael]

2 hours ago, Milordo said:

Here we go again...

The never ending story xD

Also maybe just maybe Klei is not implementing it cus they want to make it better in a sense of new animations or patterns, harder attacks or something that it's not just more numbers to the boss

[Edible Coal]

theres a setting acutally, is called "wolfgang"

[Hungry French]

On 7/23/2025 at 4:35 PM, Michachu said:

Как это может быть одним и тем же? Не могли бы вы объяснить? О да, я только что понял, что Клей — это не японское имя. До сих пор всё выглядело именно так.

In DS, you stupidly tanked the damage with all your armor. In DST, you're stupidly tanking with very cheap marble armor. Sometimes coughing up :/
On the one hand, they are normal, but on the other hand, they are so-so.

On 7/23/2025 at 4:57 PM, Larael said:

The never ending story xD

Also maybe just maybe Klei is not implementing it cus they want to make it better in a sense of new animations or patterns, harder attacks or something that it's not just more numbers to the boss

Great. Any boss in solo is a powerful threat. 
There's a bum in the team. 
And Klei's updates only simplify the bosses... Because of the amplification of everything.
God give the DS and RoG bosses more attacks... They're boring... + Giant Worm

On 7/23/2025 at 4:57 PM, Larael said:

The never ending story xD

Also maybe just maybe Klei is not implementing it cus they want to make it better in a sense of new animations or patterns, harder attacks or something that it's not just more numbers to the boss

Let's start by making at least one boss not a sponge to absorb damage, which will be equally difficult for both solo and team.

Greetings from Rellana, who has 16 attacks, very fast HP, high damage and a long boss fight with awesome music in almost 5 minutes. 
Klei is certainly not From Software, but over the 10 years of release, it's mostly just the bosses in almost every update... No music, no variety of attacks ...
the new bosses are certainly cooler than the old ones, but the huge HP makes them easier to dull.

For example, I liked DS Deerclops because, although it had 2000 hp, it corresponded to his music in 30 seconds and a repetition of 1 attack.
In DST, for fun, I have to listen to the soundtrack twice and dejectedly dodge her attacks twice...
and if I use a spear... Killing her without the Hp Health Bar is like torture for me. 
But someone likes it. 
I personally look forward to her rework very much, as do the Tree Guardians.
The other old bosses aren't that nasty...

Edited July 24, 2025 by Hungry French

[Hungry French]

On 7/23/2025 at 6:39 PM, Edible Coal said:

theres a setting acutally, is called "wolfgang"

NERF. At least up to x1.5 damage.