We need to address the concept of cheese.

[Mayson71]

49 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Bee Queen is one of the best designed fights in the game with the exception of her first phase. Just because, like with literally every boss, you are able to beat her with nothing except a pile of armor and a pile of healing doesn't mean she's a bad fight.

Dude, please, play other games besides DST, and you'll see how bad this fight is

[Cheggf]

40 minutes ago, Mayson71 said:

Dude, please, play other games besides DST, and you'll see how bad this fight is

If you think the Bee Queen fight is bad compared to other games wait until you see how every fight other than Bee Queen and Ancient Fuelweaver is!

[DegenerateFurry]

On 7/14/2025 at 7:28 PM, Edible Coal said:

this is like arguing what is consider as a sandwitch, which we all know, have no a definite meaning

just do whatever the game allows you to do...

Is cereal a soup (milk being the base), a stew (milk being the broth), or a salad (milk being the dressing)?

[Lardee]

On 7/13/2025 at 5:31 PM, DVGMedia said:

This game has a lot of tools that it's disposal yet many people don't wish to use them and that kind of makes things sad because instead they rather would prefer to change the bosses that exist into something much simpler and much easier to fight.

Yes, and that's the biggest difference between the "raid" bosses and these newer ones. The strategies to defeat the original raid bosses were something players had to come up with themselves.

Ever since the Ancient Guardian's rework (which I consider a necessary evil), DST boss designs have been more about telling the player what to do rather than leaving it up to them to find a solution.

Edited July 16, 2025 by Lardee

[SirToastyToes]

On 7/13/2025 at 11:31 PM, DVGMedia said:

This game has a lot of tools that it's disposal yet many people don't wish to use them and that kind of makes things sad because instead they rather would prefer to change the bosses that exist into something much simpler and much easier to fight. And I can't really stand for doing that because it ruins the entire aspect of exploration and experimentation that the game provides because there is never been one true way to fight stuff there's always been multiple ways to do it yet for some reason certain ways are seen as bad and it really shouldn't. 

In my mind using minions to defeat bosses is just a logical extension of things new players do like basing near Beefalo to beat Hounds. Playing the mobs off of each other is encouraged!

[liolok]

IMO, the concept of cheese is that, someone else defeat the boss and suffered less than you.

[cybers2001]

On 7/15/2025 at 9:19 PM, DegenerateFurry said:

Is cereal a soup (milk being the base), a stew (milk being the broth), or a salad (milk being the dressing)?

If the cereal is rice crispies, it’s a curry.