Europe is suffering greatly…

[Reiko24]

Is there really no post carrier that is cheaper? 55 dollars is insane… I’m not like in Indonesia or New Zealand, I’m in Europe. It’s so sad I can’t buy anything at all from the Klei shop…

[Kaioh]

29 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

Is there really no post carrier that is cheaper? 55 dollars is insane… I’m not like in Indonesia or New Zealand, I’m in Europe. It’s so sad I can’t buy anything at all from the Klei shop…

Last year they had APC Postal Logistic which could deliver to your country for as low as $14.60 and whose price didn't ramp up that much with more items in the shipment, they also didn't charge you exorbitant fees with customs/duties like FedEx does and doesn't bother you with bureaucracy either, the chads handled everything for you for free, the only downside was they delivered a bit slower. I have no idea why they swapped out APC, but going with FedEX is a complete blunder. I'm not buying anything from the Klei Shop until they remove FedEx, cuz my first and only experience with them last winter (the freshly restocked dark gray winter hat) was just that bad

[Reiko24]

18 minutes ago, Kaioh said:

Last year they had APC Postal Logistic which could deliver to your country for as low as $14.60 and whose price didn't ramp up that much with more items in the shipment, they also didn't charge you exorbitant fees with customs/duties like FedEx does and doesn't bother you with bureaucracy either, the chads handled everything for you for free, the only downside was they delivered a bit slower. I have no idea why they swapped out APC, but going with FedEX is a complete blunder. I'm not buying anything from the Klei Shop until they remove FedEx, cuz my first and only experience with them last winter (the freshly restocked dark gray winter hat) was just that bad

Klei pls, you don't even gain money from the increased delivery price right? You are even losing it. Because I'm not buying a product for 30 dollars just to pay 50 dollars for delivery, so 20 dollars more than the product...

[Kaioh]

13 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

Klei pls, you don't even gain money from the increased delivery price right? You are even losing it. Because I'm not buying a product for 30 dollars just to pay 50 dollars for delivery, so 20 dollars more than the product...

For a better perspective, this is what I had to pay with APC (first 2 orders) compared to with FedEx (the discounted dark gray winter hat during Krampus sale). Additionally, FedEx sent me an invoice of roughly $22 in local currency once the order was delivered, something APC never did, making the total cost about $95 as opposed to $73. As for delivery times, APC delivered after roughly 2 weeks, whereas FedEx did in just 1 week, but the order processing times from Klei shop were roughly the same at about 2 weeks, so the total waiting time was like 4 weeks with APC and 3 weeks with FedEx... not a good trade-off. And yeah, shipping costs go to the shipping company only

Edited June 15, 2025 by Kaioh

[Reiko24]

19 minutes ago, milsonmeow said:

And to think I have it just as bad at over $45 (currently $45.39) in shipping fee, this is just extra bad at this point. You're losing potential customers with this atrocious shipping fee, Klei.

TONS of potential customers. I mean, Canada and USA have less DST players than other parts of the world. If the shipping costs fell, tons of people would be able to buy the merch.

[Kaioh]

10 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

TONS of potential customers. I mean, Canada and USA have less DST players than other parts of the world. If the shipping costs fell, tons of people would be able to buy the merch.

I believe their shop is North American-centric because they have most of the orders in the USA. Perhaps the introduction to Chinese markets could change things up, but not sure

[Reiko24]

2 minutes ago, Kaioh said:

I believe their shop is North American-centric because they have most of the orders in the USA. Perhaps the introduction to Chinese markets could change things up, but not sure

I mean, they have the most orders in the USA because the shipping is so cheap there no? DST isn't as popular in USA as it is in other countries that aren't in the Americas.

[Kaioh]

2 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

I mean, they have the most orders in the USA because the shipping is so cheap there no? DST isn't as popular in USA as it is in other countries that aren't in the Americas.

Could be that, or the fact Americans are the richest, or both even. In addition to that, they also have the option of using USPS as a shipping company and not just FedEx, but I'm not sure how big of a factor that is in sales

[gaymime]

isnt north america currently dealing with a despot who is trying to crash the market by thrashing the local postal system? might be a bit more going on than just a rubbish shipping company(though fedex is absolute rubbish. we had to deal with them for a gift from my aunt last year and the only part that wasn't an absolute mess was how fast it came)

[Kaioh]

13 minutes ago, gaymime said:

isnt north america currently dealing with a despot who is trying to crash the market by thrashing the local postal system? might be a bit more going on than just a rubbish shipping company(though fedex is absolute rubbish. we had to deal with them for a gift from my aunt last year and the only part that wasn't an absolute mess was how fast it came)

Well that would explain a lot if true

[Reiko24]

57 minutes ago, Kaioh said:

Could be that, or the fact Americans are the richest

Late stage capitalism in America had led to the 1% hoarding all the wealth, and like 95% of americans live in poverty while 4% are "middle class" and can live normal lives. So that isn't an option. I hate corporations.

Edited June 15, 2025 by Reiko24

[Kaioh]

18 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

Late stage capitalism in America had led to the 1% hoarding all the wealth, and like 95% of americans live in poverty while 4% are "middle class" and can live normal lives. So that isn't an option. I hate corporations.

Minimum monthly wage in the USA is $1,256.57, in my country they'd live a good life with just that

[Reiko24]

7 minutes ago, Kaioh said:

Minimum monthly wage in the USA is $1,256.57, in my country they'd live a good life with just that

But take into account that the prices in USA are much much higher, so they are living paycheck to paycheck with that salary. If you worked in USA and came back home to your normal prices then yeah, the salary is okay, but their prices are huge.

[Ginosaji]

Klei always offered too expensive shipping methods. It's a topic that's cropping up again and again if you go watch streams where merch is in webcam screen of the streamer.

No matter how many Krampus sales Klei will offer in the future, if the shipping is still twice or thrice as much more expensive than the merch you wanna order people outside of north America aren't going to buy anything.

[Kaioh]

2 hours ago, Reiko24 said:

But take into account that the prices in USA are much much higher, so they are living paycheck to paycheck with that salary. If you worked in USA and came back home to your normal prices then yeah, the salary is okay, but their prices are huge.

That I agree with, but in terms of international trade, this gives them huge advantage in being able to purchase things. Poor developing countries can only dream of buying even a singular plushie (even ignoring shipping fees and such), as it represents potentially their whole monthly salary

[Reiko24]

35 minutes ago, Kaioh said:

That I agree with, but in terms of international trade, this gives them huge advantage in being able to purchase things. Poor developing countries can only dream of buying even a singular plushie (even ignoring shipping fees and such), as it represents potentially their whole monthly salary

Yeah that is pretty sad. I am fortunately living in a country which also has a minimal wage similar to 1200 dollars you mentioned, the housing situation in developed countries is atrocious so the minimum wage is often all used up for rent, water, electricity and food... 

Even funnier, the situation isn't atrocious because we don't have housing. We do. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of empty houses and apartments, but developers and the housing market inflate their price so much that it's insane. 

For something that should be a human right, a right to shelter and housing (Which we need to live!) we need to save for 30 years. What is the point then? Should I grind my whole life just to buy a house and finally feel safe and secure at old age? We are being exploited. That's why there is a mental health crisis. We are being divided by greedy rich men and politicans who spout nonsense and make people hate each other when we should hate them! We should be nice to each other, work towards greater good, but we are being just used...

Housing is a human right! Countries should take care of citizens and build housing from tax money and rent/sell it for cheap! I hate greedy millionaires, 'cause they cause masses to suffer.

Sorry, kinda ranted at this point, politics shouldn't be mentioned at this forum but yeah. That's why plushie deliveries should be cheaper XD

 

Edited June 15, 2025 by Reiko24

[Kaioh]

4 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

Yeah that is pretty sad. I am fortunately living in a country which also has a minimal wage similar to 1200 dollars you mentioned, the housing situation in developed countries is atrocious so the minimum wage is often all used up for rent, water, electricity and food... 

Even funnier, the situation isn't atrocious because we don't have housing. We do. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of empty houses and apartments, but developers and the housing market inflate their price so much that it's insane. 

For something that should be a human right, a right to shelter and housing (Which we need to live!) we need to save for 30 years. What is the point then? Should I grind my whole life just to buy a house and finally feel safe and secure at old age? We are being exploited. That's why there is a mental health crisis. We are being divided by greedy rich men and politicans who spout nonsense and make people hate each other when we should hate them! We should be nice to each other, work towards greater good, but we are being just used...

Housing is a human right! Countries should take care of citizens and build housing from tax money and rent/sell it for cheap! I hate greedy millionaires, 'cause they cause masses to suffer.

Sorry, kinda ranted at this point, politics shouldn't be mentioned at this forum but yeah. That's why plushie deliveries should be cheaper XD

 

Hopefully they'll bring APC Postal Logistic back, their services are awesome and their affordability is on par with Youtooz shipping, which is also really cheap. Idc if I have to wait another week if I can save fat stacks of money

[gaymime]

10 hours ago, Kaioh said:

Hopefully they'll bring APC Postal Logistic back, their services are awesome and their affordability is on par with Youtooz shipping, which is also really cheap. Idc if I have to wait another week if I can save fat stacks of money

i'd go back to buying from the klei store if cheaper shipping was viable regardless of the wait time. if i can wait 3 weeks for a shirt i can wait three weeks for a doll that screams at me XD

[Chewabacca]

By the way, Klei made a Reddit post about a month ago asking for information about what shipping prices people are dealing with and where: 

 

Obviously they’ll see a forum post just as well as they will replies on Reddit, but I thought some people in here might want to know that this is something that they’re looking into (and also that yes, the tariffs are part of the problem).

[Chewabacca]

17 minutes ago, milsonmeow said:

I kinda doubt that. Trump announced his tariff BS in early April, and iirc the shipping fee price was already as high before that.

“Part” being the key word here. If you look at the post, you will see that there are other reasons given for high shipping prices, but that tariffs piled onto that already existing problem, according to this guy at least.

[Kaioh]

11 hours ago, Chewabacca said:

By the way, Klei made a Reddit post about a month ago asking for information about what shipping prices people are dealing with and where: 

 

Obviously they’ll see a forum post just as well as they will replies on Reddit, but I thought some people in here might want to know that this is something that they’re looking into (and also that yes, the tariffs are part of the problem).

I'm glad they're talking about it, hope they'll get something done. 

Btw this got my attention:
"Thanks for the support! I can confirm I've started working on a Beefalo 2.0, I'm redesigning it right now. I loved our first Beefalo, it was the first plush I ever made at Klei and I'd love to be able to bring it back and have it look even more like the in-game creature."

So Corey's super secret project was Beefalo V2? Man I'm a bit disappointed, he was hyping us up so much before about his mysterious project, so I thought this plushie would be something like a raid boss or something. Though I guess beef is still nice since this gives people a chance to buy it outside of a time limited collaboration with a 3rd party

Edited June 16, 2025 by Kaioh

[nome]

12 hours ago, Kaioh said:

So Corey's super secret project was Beefalo V2? Man I'm a bit disappointed, he was hyping us up so much before about his mysterious project

Corey's got a lot of super secret projects on the go right now and I doubt the one he was talking about was the beefalo. I think I know which one he was talking about and it's awesome, can't wait to get one.  

And yes, we're not happy with some of the current shipping prices obviously which is why Corey was soliciting egregious examples.

[Kaioh]

1 minute ago, nome said:

Corey's got a lot of super secret projects on the go right now and I doubt the one he was talking about was the beefalo. I think I know which one he was talking about and it's awesome, can't wait to get one.  

Ohh, there's more? That's neat to know, thanks for the teaser. I was a bit confused there was no new info about a new plushie which he had teased back in november last year and claimed it's almost ready, so I thought the Beefalo V2 was that official reveal

[gaymime]

1 hour ago, nome said:

And yes, we're not happy with some of the current shipping prices obviously which is why Corey was soliciting egregious examples.

yeah, i thought it was bad here with the +35 shipping but some people are showing upwards of +50 and that doesnt even count the currency conversion costs.