Thieverpedia Posted May 23, 2025 Share Posted May 23, 2025 (edited) Title. Do I really need to explain why? Crown shards get a LOT of mileage compared to Spark Arks. Spark Arks pile up like crazy in the endgame. I'm sure a great deal of us would enjoy burning through the stacks upon stacks of these things. At this point, they're more decor than anything. And they also fit the design of catching gestalts, because they already catch things. Edited May 24, 2025 by Thieverpedia 14 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165840-suggestion-replace-the-cost-for-the-phasmo-encapsulator-from-crown-shards-to-spark-arks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted May 24, 2025 Share Posted May 24, 2025 Maybe it's because spark arks are hard to mass produce, while crown shards is available anytime and comes 6 each time you kills cc, though personally I just dont get why a mainstory line boss requires someting produced by another endgame-like boss to summon, and requires so many Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165840-suggestion-replace-the-cost-for-the-phasmo-encapsulator-from-crown-shards-to-spark-arks/#findComment-1817430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pruinae Posted May 24, 2025 Share Posted May 24, 2025 (edited) How is 7 Spark Arks any better than 7 Crown Shards?? You'd have to play over 210 days to kill W.A.R.B.O.T for the first time, then over 140 days for every kill after if we assume it will have any drops that make it worth killing it again. This just takes away too much player agency. Mimics cannot replicate the Spark Ark. I am all for new uses for it, but this ain't it. Edited May 24, 2025 by Pruinae 7 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165840-suggestion-replace-the-cost-for-the-phasmo-encapsulator-from-crown-shards-to-spark-arks/#findComment-1817437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep61 Posted May 24, 2025 Share Posted May 24, 2025 (edited) How about Restrained statics then?? Easier to farm (wigfrid already uses them to upgrade her spear anyways), quicker than waiting for the next seasonal boss in rotation, and you still get a cc crown as a bonus in the process, just in case klei decides to add a crown shard as material for yet somethinig else XD or even making it that the net part gets used and you are left witht he staff part , so you "repair it" with more statics/arks to keep using it. cause for a one time use item, this is really expensive as it is rn Edited May 24, 2025 by Pep61 8 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165840-suggestion-replace-the-cost-for-the-phasmo-encapsulator-from-crown-shards-to-spark-arks/#findComment-1817440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pruinae Posted May 24, 2025 Share Posted May 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, Pep61 said: How about Restrained statics then?? Currently the options we have are: Kill Celestial Champion twice for 6 shards each, 12 total. Per Celestial Champion kill (You need to kill it twice so x2): 1 Restrained Static. 8 Scrap. 15 Moongleams. 30 Infused Shards. 2 Electrical Doodads. 1 Deconstruction Staff use. Then you'd have to kill Celestial Champion "only" once for the next 5 kills, and this is all in a vacuum ignoring wanting/having to use the shards for other things. Or kill it once and have a mimic copy one Phasmo-Encapsulator. But if you're willing to use mimics why not make only one Phasmo-Encapsulator and forever use mimics to copy it for future kills? So you'd only need to ever make one Phasmo-Encapsulator. The problem is that we are assuming mimics being able to copy the Phasmo-Encapsulator and getting full use out of it will remain in the game. This interaction might be taken out of the game, we don't know. Now for Restrained Static: As Restrained Static cannot be copied by mimics, you'd have to do the Wagstaff minigame 7 times. Considering Klei changed Celestial Champion from needing 3 Restrained Statics per kill to 1 due to complaints, this is not ideal (I dread the thought of having to do that minigame 7 times). It is not a fun thing to do repeatedly. It becomes a matter of opinion, and it may vary if we don't have a reason to kill W.A.R.B.O.T more than once. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165840-suggestion-replace-the-cost-for-the-phasmo-encapsulator-from-crown-shards-to-spark-arks/#findComment-1817444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted May 24, 2025 Share Posted May 24, 2025 8 hours ago, Pruinae said: The problem is that we are assuming mimics being able to copy the Phasmo-Encapsulator and getting full use out of it will remain in the game. This interaction might be taken out of the game, we don't know. It should probably explode in your hands when you try to use it on a lunar entity. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165840-suggestion-replace-the-cost-for-the-phasmo-encapsulator-from-crown-shards-to-spark-arks/#findComment-1817632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 A single spark ark and a single crown shard but Wagstaff gives it back after putting the gestalt into the drone. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165840-suggestion-replace-the-cost-for-the-phasmo-encapsulator-from-crown-shards-to-spark-arks/#findComment-1817636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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