A test & feedback of Walter's fault tolerance towards Bee Queen: Facetanking is available! (If you insist to do)

[Catuna_]

Pointless threads causing pointless bickering causing clutter and toxicity for Klei to deal with. Like, come on...

[Reiko24]

9 minutes ago, Arcwell said:

What is the point of this thread

User Steorra is angry at Wendy changes, so they are trying their best to start a storm about Walter.

 

i also don’t get it, and I also don’t get it what this post is trying to prove. The video attached literally proves that it’s harder than normal, because they instantly went to 0 sanity after ONE hit and getting bucked off and hit multiple times. 

5 minutes ago, Y0sH said:

I mean, I would even acknowledge it not being bait and say „Bee Queen should disable all slowing effects on her and her minions when she screams”. But the post above literally proves no purpose and the video makes Walter look BAD, when he can be stronger. The video „proof” is badly made. So I will not be supporting it because I see it’s only made because of malice.

[Steorra]

8 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

The video attached literally proves that it’s harder than normal

you simply ignore the stackable slowing effect privilege of Walter.

[Reiko24]

Just now, Steorra said:

you simply ignore the stackable slowing effect privilege of Walter.

You simply ignore me saying that Bee Queen should delete slowing effects when she screams. Icker, honey, slowdown should not stack with each other. They slowest slow should be applied and the rest should be ignored.

 

but your posts are made because of malice, I don’t like that

[Yifei_]

3 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Steorra is Chinese therefore untouchable. 

Klei won't want to start another Wigfrid diadem situation.

Just sit back and enjoy the toxic forums until Wendy's skilltree is finished and released.

Please continue. Is there anything else you want to say, racist?

[Crimson Hollow]

4 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Steorra is Chinese therefore untouchable. 

Whatever shes doing i dont think its a good idea to specifically use her nationality as an excuse to these. 

[Steorra]

1 minute ago, Reiko24 said:

You simply ignore me saying that Bee Queen should delete slowing effects when she screams. Icker, honey, slowdown should not stack with each other. They slowest slow should be applied and the rest should be ignored.

you simply ignored the thread which I posted very earlier that I said "the screaming of Bee Queen should cancel the disable effect like slowing effects & shadow prison". And you simply ignored that the thread I said above got malice and bias from others.

you simply ignored the bias and unfairness happened to others. that's the point.

I don't think trying to create a no-flexible standard forum ambience is "malice". Though you may free to slander my purpose by your personally misunderstanding.

[Crimson Hollow]

I mean my chinese friends were already hurt by all these drama which has tanked their reputation despite them having done literally nothing. What a few ppl is doing has nothing to do w chinese players as a whole.

[Steorra]

4 minutes ago, Crimson Hollow said:

I mean my chinese friends were already hurt by all these drama which has tanked their reputation despite them having done literally nothing. What a few ppl is doing has nothing to do w chinese players as a whole.

you are right. but it's a sarcasm that in this forum ppls always being obsessed to hurting "Wendy Players" or "Chinese people" by their own malice or bias.

Though, I guess we have no space to discuss this problem further more lol. Because the fairness is never a thing to our moderators & devs. "We're uninterested in providing a place for those discussions as they don't help us make the game better - have those discussions somewhere else."

Well, enough for this, or moderator would finally have an excuse to ban me (Though I did collecting some evidences these days for preventing some unfair things which have potential flexible standard). Maybe you could rethink if my intention was aiming to hurting Walter players, or aiming for other purpose.

[Y0sH]

3 minutes ago, Crimson Hollow said:

I mean my chinese friends were already hurt by all these drama which has tanked their reputation despite them having done literally nothing. What a few ppl is doing has nothing to do w chinese players as a whole.

That's unfortunate and what's fascinating about all of this brigading from the Billibi and Tieba audiences is that the Devs seem to be doing the exact opposite of what the spamming efforts were set out to do. Wendy has been getting nerfed and all of these posts that's purposely decisive and spamming have just been getting locked and ignored. Resulting in the real issues of Wendy being ignored as well. Unfortunately for them, they don't seem to understand this.

[Dr. Safety]

Ignoring whatever the hell you guys are on about

14 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

Icker, honey, slowdown should not stack with each other. They slowest slow should be applied and the rest should be ignored.

Can we find common ground with this at least?

[Gashzer]

10 minutes ago, Yifei_ said:

Please continue. Is there anything else you want to say, racist?

10 minutes ago, Crimson Hollow said:

Whatever shes doing i dont think its a good idea to specifically use her nationality as an excuse to these. 

Klei during this beta period has given the Chinese community a pass in general out of fear of outrage. Pointing that out isn't racist lol. 

Just because I mentioned a nationality doesn't automatically make it racist, calm down lads.

I just want Steorra to stop spamming threads, he's almost as bad as jakepeng...

[Crimson Hollow]

All of these would probably be preventable with a filter option or sth lol

1 minute ago, Gashzer said:

Klei during this beta period has given the Chinese community a pass in general out of fear of outrage.

You know whats funny here? The chinese community seems to say the opposite. which means that nobody is happy in this situation hahahahh what a joke

[Y0sH]

1 minute ago, Crimson Hollow said:

All of these would probably be preventable with a filter option or sth lol

I'm 100000% sure that the Devs have an option to filter out posts made by specific accounts and just ignore them as a whole when they take in feedback about characters.

[Crimson Hollow]

5 minutes ago, Y0sH said:

doing the exact opposite of what the spamming efforts were set out to do. Wendy has been getting nerfed and all of these posts that's purposely decisive and spamming have just been getting locked and ignored. Resulting in the real issues of Wendy being ignored as well.

100% this

[Yifei_]

2 minutes ago, Y0sH said:

That's unfortunate and what's fascinating about all of this brigading from the Billibi and Tieba audiences is that the Devs seem to be doing the exact opposite of what the spamming efforts were set out to do. Wendy has been getting nerfed and all of these posts that's purposely decisive and spamming have just been getting locked and ignored. Resulting in the real issues of Wendy being ignored as well. Unfortunately for them, they don't seem to understand this.

Is there a more interesting word than "brigading"? I've seen too many people use this term to attack and defame players from Tieba and Bilibili. This tactic is so boring. Is there a more intriguing word that better reflects your exclusionary mindset and the idea that you don't consider Tieba/Bilibili players as normal gamers? I might as well expand my vocabulary while I'm at it.

[Catuna_]

23 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Steorra is Chinese therefore untouchable. 

3 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

I just want Steorra to stop spamming threads, he's almost as bad as jakepeng...

Let's not bring this sort of talk into the forums... We shouldn't make this thread devolve further.

10 minutes ago, Steorra said:

Though, I guess we have no space to discuss this problem further more lol. Because the fairness is never a thing to our moderators & devs. "We're uninterested in providing a place for those discussions as they don't help us make the game better - have those discussions somewhere else."

I was going to reply to one of the posts regarding these walter nerf posts but it got locked before I did. I'll just say it here.

Klei does not owe you a response when you make a post. Klei does not need or have to respond to any posts that people make in regards to feedback, Klei reads through all of them, then the ideas get considered. People are free to discuss things because this points out obvious flaws, shortcomings, things to watch out for when implementing a feature/change etc. Klei is extremely pro-speech. If they weren't, then many of the people on the forums that have been advocating for Wendy changes would be banned due to their direct attacks and toxicity towards the developers especially at the start of the beta. Klei does not need nor does it have to play petty children games with the pointless bickering happening in the forums.

It's so confusing to me when people think that Klei is silencing or censoring them in any way when klei read their posts (the intention behind even writing one) and act accordingly to off-topic posts and/or toxicity or rude unacceptable behavior. If they were censoring you, you wouldn't be able to post on the forums anymore. 

Please realize that your behavior is actively harmful and does nothing but prevent any chance of coherent and reasonable communication between you, the developers and the rest of the community. I don't want this to continue this way for the remainder of the beta (or even more), it's just a headache for everyone involved.
 

[Steorra]

4 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

as bad as jakepeng...

You do enjoying to make everything become a personally thing.

Have to say Jakepeng99 is far more honest than most of you. Don't touch them by your flexible bias.

[Crimson Hollow]

yes and it invalidates your words to those youre trying to convince i cant see anyone happy from it

 

[_mylilsunshine_]

1 hour ago, salty_cookie said:

Great idea finally we can stop Walter bullying poor bee queen. Now we should also save her from evil Wendy. I suggest making Abigail have a fear of bees and would run away.

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

We should make it that bee queen is immune to all character perks/abilities. (Immunity to abigail, lunar flame, shadow prison, catapults, slingshot, Wolfgang 2x damage etc.)

That way every character is balanced... maybe we should do this with every boss just to be sure to be sure... 

y'know what, maybe klei should buff wendy and give her everything the community, specifically the chinese community, wants. maybe then they'll leave walter alone and not engage in his discourse maliciously

1 hour ago, ArcAngela said:

I love these tropes where the villain monologues about their motives and reasons, proudly revealing their entire plan so that it can be sabotaged.

No, Walter's main weakness has never been bees. Slow-down rounds don't need nerfs because "think of the bees!".
"Wendy got nerfed so Walter has to be nerfed" is not constructive, and quite frankly I'm surprised you keep getting away with this dishonesty.
I mean, you just told the entire room that your reasoning behind these suggestions is out of spite for Wendy. That's just petty.

i've been calling out this behaviour since the start and i didn't even mention wendy. i saw that their threads come from a place of malice and wanting walter nerfed out of spite, called it out, and y'know what? i got reprimanded with warnings, and these instigating users are still scott free, still having disgruntled and petty signature attacking the devs, still posting threads that contribute nothing to walter's genuine development and jabbing at the devs

[Yifei_]

5 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Klei during this beta period has given the Chinese community a pass in general out of fear of outrage. Pointing that out isn't racist lol. 

Just because I mentioned a nationality doesn't automatically make it racist, calm down lads.

I just want Steorra to stop spamming threads, he's almost as bad as jakepeng...

You really enjoy personal attacks, don't you? And you're dragging other users into it too? Plus, you're defending your racist remarks? You're quite a character. Please, do continue with your performance.

[Dr. Safety]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Safety said:

Ignoring whatever the hell you guys are on about

Can we find common ground with this at least?

Can't say I didn't try. Bye bye thread

[Steorra]

1 minute ago, Catuna_ said:

Please realize that your behavior is actively harmful and does nothing but prevent any chance of coherent and reasonable communication between you, the developers and the rest of the community. I don't want this to continue this way for the remainder of the beta (or even more), it's just a headache for everyone involved.

I don't accept the accusation because nome did clarified that what is harmful and what is not. 

Check this by yourself :

 

If you insist to accuse me like what you said, but ignoring others who broke the guidelines and continuously harass me, then you are dishonest.

[Y0sH]

3 minutes ago, Yifei_ said:

Is there a more interesting word than "brigading"? I've seen too many people use this term to attack and defame players from Tieba and Bilibili. This tactic is so boring. Is there a more intriguing word that better reflects your exclusionary mindset and the idea that you don't consider Tieba/Bilibili players as normal gamers? I might as well expand my vocabulary while I'm at it.

Sorry my word choice isn't "interesting" enough for you. Never have I said that I don't consider players from other platforms "aren't real gamers", you got that conclusion out of absolutely nowhere I recommend you read what you see and not what you feel. Also if you'd like to expand your vocabulary I recommend Doulingo. Thanks.

[Steorra]

4 minutes ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

y'know what, maybe klei should buff wendy and give her everything the community, specifically the chinese community, wants. maybe then they'll leave walter alone and not engage in his discourse maliciously

i've been calling out this behaviour since the start and i didn't even mention wendy. i saw that their threads come from a place of malice and wanting walter nerfed out of spite, called it out, and y'know what? i got reprimanded with warnings, and these instigating users are still scott free, still having disgruntled and petty signature attacking the devs, still posting threads that contribute nothing to walter's genuine development and jabbing at the devs

It seems you've completed forgot what slander you gave to other people at the December of last year.