(Video evidence) Bee Queen was supposed to be Walter's main downside nightmare, but now is only a punchbag. The slowing rounds is broken.

[Steorra]

1 minute ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

Regardless of what I say you're going to try and argue otherwise,

Were you hinting that the only meaningful discussion for you is "you say, they listen, they learn from you, no argument to against any of your words"?

You have the resiponbility to prove your argument. That's the basic logic of discussion. You tend to wasting everyone's time including our devs.

[_mylilsunshine_]

1 minute ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

I don't think anything more can be said in this topic without going back into a circle

other people and I already gave our two cents, so hopefully sensible people will make something out of it. for now i'll also stop engaging in these posts, especially by this poster. 

[Koomin]

18 minutes ago, Steorra said:

It's quite strange to see you doing what you were angry with.

???? Isn't this you below saying you are tired of people posting about "balance" for Wendy and then proceeding to post 30 different threads all over the front page about balance for Walter?  

It's quite strange to see you doing what you were angry with.

 

[YouKnowWho142]

Just now, _mylilsunshine_ said:

other people and I already gave our two cents, so hopefully sensible people will make something out of it. for now i'll also stop engaging in these posts, especially by this poster. 

Yeah, sorry, I kind of fanned it a bit, I'm not typically interests in posts considered "bait", but I found this one to be especially curious

[Edible Coal]

is not like most character ability can already cover their downsides already
willow, has fire to counter cold which is her weakness

wolfgang, 2 shot nm creature even though he drops sanity faster than others
warly, eats meaty stew to entirely dodge the 2 day memory hunger

maxwell, wears armor to make 75 health practically has 700 hp

wormwood, cant burst heal but can use batbat and jelly beans

 

[Steorra]

1 hour ago, Cassielu said:

look, I know some people use the same absurd arguments and received bias on Wendy topic, you're angry, but that's not a reason to bring them into other characters topic. Those are absurd arguments, Klei was wrong, don't harm other parts of the game in same way.

Character's disadvantage are meant to encourage the player to behave in a certain way, not to make character bad on some things, difficult for no reason.

I care nothing about Wendy now but if someone think Wendy is "Strong" for BQ fighting I would not have any argument to stop their feedback of it.

I have no emotion here about what happened before. I only care why I HAVE NO RIGHT to do same thing which is allowed before by both forumusers and moderators.

I give my feedback to Walter. I DO feel "it's extremely boring while I slowing my target and kiting, pressing F, kiting, loop". 

Could ANY OF YOU give me a reason that I SHOULD NOT to express my feeling about Walter's boring playstyle?

12 minutes ago, Edible Coal said:

is not like most character ability can already cover their downsides already
willow, has fire to counter cold which is her weakness

wolfgang, 2 shot nm creature even though he drops sanity faster than others
warly, eats meaty stew to entirely dodge the 2 day memory hunger

maxwell, wears armor to make 75 health practically has 700 hp

wormwood, cant burst heal but can use batbat and jelly beans

According to past arguments during this beta, this discussion has been happened for several times.

Whatever downside is important toward game enjoyment and challenges, or downside is only inconvience and they should be fix, they are just different opinions.

We allow people keep their own opinions toward the game, and people have their own right to share their opinions and feelings. Especially to give their feedback about how they feel frustrated about the current beta matters.

15 minutes ago, Koomin said:

???? Isn't this you below saying you are tired of people posting about "balance" for Wendy and then proceeding to post 30 different threads all over the front page about balance for Walter?  

It's quite strange to see you doing what you were angry with.

 

This is offtopic about the originnal feedback, normally our moderator would not give tolerate to such personally matters.

But I have interest to answer your question here: I simply changed my mind by seeing how people like some of you were obsessed with "balance" in past few months. I DO find the "balance" is important after I tried Walter with his slowing rounds.

Walter's bosses disabling brainless boring playstyle TEACHED me to know why "balance" is important.

I say sorry to you for my immature toward the balance topics for the past few months.

[Koomin]

12 minutes ago, Steorra said:

But I have interest to answer your question here: I simply changed my mind by seeing how people like some of you were obsessed with "balance" in past few months. I DO find the "balance" is important after I tried Walter with his slowing rounds.

Walter's bosses disabling brainless boring playstyle TEACHED me to know why "balance" is important.

I say sorry to you for my immature toward the balance topics for the past few months.

That's pretty cool to say.  No worries then, and I for sure do see where you are coming from with a bunch of these posts.

[asdsaax]

56 minutes ago, Steorra said:

There's a huge difference between "Looted ruins, used the loots and skills to kill BQ" & "Looted ruins, used the loots and hoding left-click to kill BQ".

Averagely, Wilson need 1 Scale Armor, 4 Thulecite Crowns, 1 Panflute, 1 Marble Suit, 40 blue mushrooms and enough skills to kill BQ.

Wilson has no downside toward bees.

How could you think this is fair to Wilson?

That comparison to Wilson is kinda meh because modern DST ain't balanced around him
I'm pretty sure that even Devs said that they don't want to do anything crazy about him, so he can provide with classic DS experience
which makes a lot of sense if you think about it

so I don't think about Wilson at all because he is kept down with purpose + we could say the same thing about any character compared to Wilson

and honestly worrying about balance in that game is kinda funny because it has been vague for ages
but now Klei tries to fill the gaps left behind Wolfgang's power budget and Maxwell's versatility, unless your character works around unusual mechanics (Wormwood)
or is meant to be classic DST but worse (Wes) (MORE INCONSISTENCY)

so as solo player? Pick whatever experience you are looking for because Walter might be not for everyone, but so is Winona, Wortox, Maxwell, Wormwood and ETC.
as multi-player? Your power will get diluted by plain stats so whatever

Also allow me to joke but....

"How is that fair to Wilson"? - Miss 1 beekeeper hat, bernie and 300 embers and no ruins loot probably

If you are here on forum then make sure to secure the best for your character till Klei gives it time
instead of wasting your time on the enigma that is DST's character design