Walter cheese for the NMWP

[Walrusst]

I mean these sorts of things are surprisingly common with a lot of characters, lets not forget what happened with ancient guardian before the rework.

Hell, there is still elements with this in commonly accepted strategies for fighting several bosses, given people will still just use props to block the lavae and skip an entire repeating phase of dragonfly.

Crab kind used to be mauled with a stack or two of angry bees, eight silk of bees is not a lot of resources needed to kill one of the pivotal bosses on a speedrun path.

Enemies that kill trees woodie has long since been able to take out with some grass and living logs.

 

Walter is going to expose holes in the boss design for sure, but I don't think this strictly has a cause for outcry: Having the holes being exposed means we don't need to leave them unpatched. Since if we never looked at the problem, we won't deal with the problem. These were holes that klei already boldy set themselves up to ram into months ago.

We've always found holes where bosses can be utterly crushed prior to this, and kleis been adding a slew of ranged weapons without our boy anyhow that will be relevant when the game is longer.
Having experience with this playstyle will help klei integrate such playstyles into the game when they do become more broadly relevant, because regardless, with the content we have today, they will be relevant.

[kroban]

21 hours ago, Yaorin yon said:

There are quite a few examples like this, but I think it's just a matter of personal enjoyment.

Of course, if this is reasonable, I believe many other things would be reasonable as well. The same applies in reverse.

I agree that all those cheeses should be fixed, specially crab king's and nerfing icker rounds so it doesnt slow that much. That said, I think some of these examples are dumb and with malice. Like for example:

  

21 hours ago, Yaorin yon said:

How is this a cheese? Maybe im missing something here, but Toadstool will eventually spawn mushtrees and you will be required to chop them, otherwise Toadstool will become unkillable, when you are chopping trees you are at risk. The "cheese" here is supposed to be that Walter can do relatively safe damage at times or what?

21 hours ago, Yaorin yon said:

This is a cheese but lets be honest, Klaus is probably the most cheeseable boss in the game. Melee characters can cheese him like this, all you need to do is trap the deers with walls and fight Klaus when he is at his max range. I have seen countless ways to cheese him, just to name 2, I have a friend that mains Wormwood and he cheeses a lot of bosses out of spamming sleep mushrooms, Klaus included, and Winona can also do this with her catapults. Intentionally targetting Walter for this makes me think yall are acting with bad faith here.

[WilsonHiggs]

3 hours ago, Radicaljoe said:

using their knowledge. 

Using youtube