SebsiaX Posted February 12, 2025 Share Posted February 12, 2025 I just want to know more opinion about that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hollow Posted February 12, 2025 Share Posted February 12, 2025 Im sorry, which aspects are you referring to? cause Nice branch works better in a team, Naughty is better in solo play, design wise Naughty is more interesting but it's a personal opinion Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted February 12, 2025 Share Posted February 12, 2025 The Soul Bastion is clearly still unfinished, and it would be unfair to compare them now Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrusst Posted February 12, 2025 Share Posted February 12, 2025 I've found my stride playing mildly combat boosted nice. The hyper mobility and medical properties of almost full nice, with the weakest form of naughty's crowd killing (Decoy bombs) with a little bit of pan flute feels quite fun. Not going affinity here because honestly can't be bothered with rift items here. Naughty is really good, but I got tired of seeing a beefalo hit one spider and then my souls aggrod the whole herd, stuff like that. Yes your damage output is great with all of the area of effect stuff you can do but every npc on npc interaction turning into a coalition to kill you started to fatigue me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroban Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 I dont play Wortox that much but I like the nice side a lot, Wortox always had that "support" aspect, his basekit basically made him a healer in multiplayer, and I think the nice side improved that a lot. The naughty side has more "fun" stuff like the decoy and the soul damage, but I would say thats only good in solo, also it has some seeeeerious inventory issues Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 Not a fan of Nice, I understand the argument that Wortox is a team player, but he's already been a great healer for years, adding +10 healing to his kit isn't particularly interesting. It's overkill imo. The inclination is neat, and neutral towards 3 common creatures you could find, but it's the skills to obtain the inclination that are really holding it back for me. Naughty has the jar, piercing, and Imp-losion. Which are new things that Wortox has not had in his kit before. I also enjoy the free soul overload immunity. Nice has the Twin Fail heart, which is a new power for Wortox I won't deny. However, I think it is way too expensive to be used for more than 1-2 people.(and absolutly useless if you're solo) The middle nice branch is what really kills nice for me, the whole thing is so mediocre it would be funny if it wasn't so disappointing. You heal more, which isn't all that useful now that Wortox can hold 7x his original soul amount. So yes, you can get more healing from that 1 soul, but also you could heal just as easily be dropping 2 souls and be equally helpful at healing if you were naughty. I'm actually a little disappointed there's no reward for being balanced, seems that regardless if you like Naughty or Nice more, Neutral is almost a negative since you don't get the benefit of either inclination. Forgot to mention, the right branch Nice skills are fine, 10/10, always take all of them Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow soul 3 Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 It depends on the players around you. You're missing neutral Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 Naughty is better for solo, rushing, crowd control and combat in general. Nice is better for playing as support on team games, not have the racism problem, and revive new players. Nice has no ugly knabsack so that's a plus too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinsdaleP Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 Naughty, probably even in teams. As long as you have a killer bee biome, you essentially have infinite souls, and thus infinite healing. Since there are loads of revival options, that aspect of the nice skill tree is also kind of useless. Lifebringer III (the ability of giving other player teleport powers) is very nice however, so it might be worthwhile to got for a 7/7 split if playing in teams, though I don't know how problematic that might be with soul overloads. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 I don't think it can quite be covered with "better", nice is a playstyle more focused on supporting the team, while naughty leans to a solo playstyle. Though, there seems to be more people playing solo than together Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 4 minutes ago, YXukun said: I don't think it can quite be covered with "better", nice is a playstyle more focused on supporting the team, while naughty leans to a solo playstyle. Though, there seems to be more people playing solo than together I agree, better is entirely subjective. However, I think there's an argument to be made that naughty's skills are always relevant whether you're alone or with your team, compared to how heavily nice gets its utility removed as soon as you're alone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 1 minute ago, Radicaljoe said: I agree, better is entirely subjective. However, I think there's an argument to be made that naughty's skills are always relevant whether you're alone or with your team, compared to how heavily nice gets its utility removed as soon as you're alone. Nice gets more healings, while naughty gets more…souls, which is more than more healings… Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 Are we talking about the skills or inclinations? Because they're the exact opposite, IMO. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoIIo Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 The inclination effect -> naughty is better (never overloading again basically) Inclination soul stat tweaks -> nice is better (good sanity management) Skills in each branch overall -> Naughty has more applicable skills. More healing out of each soul is kind of unremarkable compared to hoarding hundreds of souls at a time, even if your goal is to just heal. Heart skills are situational, and the team teleport is a lot less meaningful past antlion. That leaves the teleport branch which is admittedly an essential in every Wortox tree imo. Pierce is very underwhelming but decoy + jar are good enough to make my opinion lean towards favoring that side in an """overall""" comparison. I'd basically always be naughty in any world past one FW kill. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 Depends on your vibe that day Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_NiX Posted February 13, 2025 Share Posted February 13, 2025 as a Base builder and general support to others, I enjoy Nice (twintail heart + long range teleport) and some naughty perks for Soul Storage. But mostly Nice perks, so I can not worry about pigs/catcoons/bunnies slapping me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164036-wortox-what-is-better-nicenaughty/#findComment-1796934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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