Vex potion

[Picklesaurus]

I wish the Vex potion worked better against rift enemies, the way Vex potion currently works It is really really strong pre-rift but once I'm fighting rift enemies it feels like my damage suffers a really big drop-off, it feels really bad, I would prefer if the Vex potion dealt a bit less damage to pre-rift enemies but worked without such a big damage drop-off when fighting against planar enemies. I would prefer it working well against both planar and non planar enemies than it being super effective against non planar enemies and then suffering a really big drop off in damage against rift enemies. It even uses an item I associate with rift content in its recipe - Pure Horror , I don't understand why it is super strong before rifts and considerably weaker against rift content.

[CremeLover]

If I had to speculate as the reason, is because Abigail has a general use multiplier, and Klei has made an effort to make planar damage a flat number, and affected by no multipliers other than the alignment ones. Though it is weird they decided to make the shadow post-rift elixir specially good against non-planar entities.

The Lunar elixir gives GAbigail 100 planar damage per hit, vs the 25 planar damage of SAbigail, maybe that's the intended way going forward.

[Cassielu]

On 1/31/2025 at 9:52 PM, CremeLover said:

If I had to speculate as the reason, is because Abigail has a general use multiplier, and Klei has made an effort to make planar damage a flat number, and affected by no multipliers other than the alignment ones. Though it is weird they decided to make the shadow post-rift elixir specially good against non-planar entities.

In fact, Klei just found the perfect way to do this in Walter's Pure Brilliance Rounds -- this Rounds applies a debuff to the mob, Give this mob an extra +5 planar damage each time it takes a planar damage attack. Its flat number and also a damage debuff

I think the planar vex is a brilliant idea, but I also think the planar vex can do more than simply balance. Lunar Abigail needs it too. Check out my post:

 

[CremeLover]

4 minutes ago, Cassielu said:

In fact, Klei just found the perfect way to do this in Walter's Pure Brilliance Rounds -- this Rounds applies a debuff to the mob, Give this mob an extra +5 planar damage each time it takes a planar damage attack. Its flat number and also a damage debuff

I think the planar vex is a brilliant idea, but I also think the planar vex can do more than simply balance. Check out my post:

 

Yeah, that is a way to apply the vex, but for planar damage, very similar to how default Abigail works, without adding extra multipliers. I woudln't mind it if this were implemented, but it might be a bit too overpowered for multiplayer, a "free" planar AoE debuff, and you would need to consider if it stacks or not with Walter. Also, it is definitely making it so that SAbigail does 25+5 damage planar, and make people question if this is a bug or not, and people flooding the forums for the next week angry about it.

But yeah, it could be a nice implementation that would only work mostly post-rift with planar weapons, I would support this change.

Willow with the multihit lunar flames is definitely having a good time with abigail/water in the team