Guille6785 Posted January 19, 2025 Share Posted January 19, 2025 I never share outright speedruns here since most people don't care for them but I'm actually quite proud of this run and thought some people would find it interesting to see some of the strategies used: Pretty much every CC run prior to this could essentially be summarized as “CC questline but fast”, but this run incorporates dozens of small improvements and techniques discovered by the collaboration of multiple members of the community (huge thanks to @Arcwell, @GRM and @Salem specifically), which is the only reason a run like this is even remotely possible (some glitches have already been patched in the current live branch, so I did this run in the pre-depths of duplicity patch). This also wouldn't have been possible without the many improvements the devs made to the lunar questline to agilize it, such as the addition of the chair task for pearl and the reduced restrained static requirements. I remember back when cookie cutter shells were only a 25% drop and it was torture, so I'm really grateful the devs have taken the time to address the complaints many players had since 2021 regarding how grindy this questline felt, it now really feels like a proper equivalent to the shadow questline (even if there are still some things that could stand to be made a bit less grindy for when you don't get good RNG like this run). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted January 19, 2025 Share Posted January 19, 2025 Jesus Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted January 19, 2025 Share Posted January 19, 2025 Basically this shows how people will play DST regardless of how the game works. Some people (like you) have this ability to think fast in situations and adapt to it, they also have an incredible ability and resilience to keep trying after failing runs, and also the skill to maintain calm throughtout the overwhelming process of thinking (specially in dst). This is a big example that, if people wanna play a game, regardless of what the game's genre is and how it's intended for you to play, they will play it anyways, and adapt to the situations. Don't starve together, which is a survival game, can be turn into a speedrun category, because of these amazing people in our community who refuses to let go of the game, showing how much we love this game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 3 hours ago, loopuleasa said: Jesus nah, jesus can actually do it on day11 but don't worry i am sure guille can clean up and take him eventually! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 4 hours ago, gaymime said: nah, jesus can actually do it on day11 but don't worry i am sure guille can clean up and take him eventually! Walking on water included Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 17 hours ago, Guille6785 said: I never share outright speedruns here since most people don't care for them but I'm actually quite proud of this run and thought some people would find it interesting to see some of the strategies used: Pretty much every CC run prior to this could essentially be summarized as “CC questline but fast”, but this run incorporates dozens of small improvements and techniques discovered by the collaboration of multiple members of the community (huge thanks to @Arcwell, @GRM and @Salem specifically), which is the only reason a run like this is even remotely possible (some glitches have already been patched in the current live branch, so I did this run in the pre-depths of duplicity patch). This also wouldn't have been possible without the many improvements the devs made to the lunar questline to agilize it, such as the addition of the chair task for pearl and the reduced restrained static requirements. I remember back when cookie cutter shells were only a 25% drop and it was torture, so I'm really grateful the devs have taken the time to address the complaints many players had since 2021 regarding how grindy this questline felt, it now really feels like a proper equivalent to the shadow questline (even if there are still some things that could stand to be made a bit less grindy for when you don't get good RNG like this run). Seems like you skipped a friendship point, but still got the Pearl. Is that a glitch? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 how did you get the pearl without doing a fishing task? I always am one point short and forced to get a heavy lure/fishing rod Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Dingle said: Seems like you skipped a friendship point, but still got the Pearl. Is that a glitch? 1 hour ago, nimzowitsch10 said: how did you get the pearl without doing a fishing task? I always am one point short and forced to get a heavy lure/fishing rod There was a bug that granted 1 additional point after 8 minutes if you break and build another chair and disconnect the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 6 minutes ago, Swiyss said: There was a bug that granted 1 additional point after 8 minutes if you break and build another chair and disconnect the game. "Was"? Too bad, haha. I really wish there was ONE more legitimate early friendship point option, even if it was difficult. The heavy fish points can be brutally RNG dependent, to the point where you simpy shouldn't bother with an Autumn Pearl (unless you're Wickerbottom, or using an exploit). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 3 minutes ago, Dingle said: "Was"? Too bad, haha. I really wish there was ONE more legitimate early friendship point option, even if it was difficult. The heavy fish points can be brutally RNG dependent, to the point where you simpy shouldn't bother with an Autumn Pearl (unless you're Wickerbottom, or using an exploit). Yeah unfortunately the game wasn't specifically made for speedrunning. And they already added the chair right after people asked for another way to complete missions. I believe that making it easier currently would not be beneficial to the game. It's kinda in a great spot right now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1786995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 12 minutes ago, Swiyss said: Yeah unfortunately the game wasn't specifically made for speedrunning. And they already added the chair right after people asked for another way to complete missions. I believe that making it easier currently would not be beneficial to the game. It's kinda in a great spot right now. I'd like it for my group servers, I'm not really a speedrunner. It would just be nice to have the option to shoot for the Pearl in Autumn, without Wickerbottom being more or less mandatory. The heavy fishing RNG really can be that bad, otherwise. One more way to get an early friendship point would be nice for that. It would also be great for extra variety. We get the Pearl one of two ways, every time, now. And one of those two ways is with heavy fishing + the wickerbottom fish book. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1787000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 12 minutes ago, Dingle said: I'd like it for my group servers, I'm not really a speedrunner. It would just be nice to have the option to shoot for the Pearl in Autumn, without Wickerbottom being more or less mandatory. The heavy fishing RNG really can be that bad, otherwise. One more way to get an early friendship point would be nice for that. It would also be great for extra variety. We get the Pearl one of two ways, every time, now. And one of those two ways is with heavy fishing + the wickerbottom fish book. I don't know.. I don't agree with another way to get a task before winter, you can already get 1 with rain on day 20 and another with snow on day 21. Unless you want it earlier than that, then you gotta deal with the big fish rng. But I'm pretty sure you can do it very easily with a group. You have as many autumn days from day 3 to 20 for someone to fish those 5 fish. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1787001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 22 minutes ago, Swiyss said: Yeah unfortunately the game wasn't specifically made for speedrunning. That's true, but I'm sure Klei care about speedrunners too. I think it's not a bad idea for everyone included speedrunners making don't have to do heavy fish RNG in tasks to get the pearl. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1787002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 6 minutes ago, Swiyss said: I don't know.. I don't agree with another way to get a task before winter, you can already get 1 with rain on day 20 and another with snow on day 21. This is how we do it every single time without Wickerbottom, now. 6 minutes ago, Swiyss said: Unless you want it earlier than that, then you gotta deal with the big fish rng. But I'm pretty sure you can do it very easily with a group. You have as many autumn days from day 3 to 20 for someone to fish those 5 fish. We stopped doing this (without wicker), because often we wouldn't get the 5 fish until like day 16 or 17, anyway. At that point, why not just wait 4 days for the snow? It's not just that you're only saving 4 days in that case, you're also wasting a lot of time from trying to win the heavy fish RNG lottery. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1787003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted January 20, 2025 Share Posted January 20, 2025 Now try to make it a Wes. No cheese. Using only Tail o' Three Cats, no damage, no panflute, no cancelled animation, destroy all mini crabs, crab towers and crab claws. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163225-day-12-celestial-champion-speedrun/#findComment-1787005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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