Does queen bee still need a rework?

[Edible Coal]

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[Bumber64]

When's Wilson getting his AoE?

[Swiyss]

5 hours ago, Bumber64 said:

When's Wilson getting his AoE?

Brightshade  BomB

[Bumber64]

17 hours ago, Swiyss said:

Brightshade  BomB

Bee queen is a pre-rifts boss.

[Well-met]

nope. shes designed to overwhelm with hit stuns and no amount of forum tantrum will change this.

Plus, remembering how bad the new CK is should be an immediate turn off

[dst_lover]

Nah she is one of the best bosses 

[Swiyss]

6 hours ago, Well-met said:

nope. shes designed to overwhelm with hit stuns and no amount of forum tantrum will change this.

Plus, remembering how bad the new CK is should be an immediate turn off

I hate so much the new crab king. Old one was Chad king, new one is puppy fairytail dreams of cookies n cream crab king.

Everytime I fight ck I just get immediately sad, I've trained the old fight for so long, and it was actually hard, this new fight has so many unecessary additions that only makes it annoying. People simply started panfluting the little crablings because of how unintuitive it is to fight them.

Old Chad King would f*ck up your boat the moment you started the fight, he would freeze you forever if you missed 1 single hit, and his claws grabbing your boat was a mechanic infinitely better than the current kiting that we have to do. They basically made the boss boring and similar to deerclops but with little extra steps just because it was necessary for progression. They should've just changed the progression of the altar in someway instead of reworking the boss completely.

Bee Queen is already just so extremelly easy with Maxwell AND Wendy. As Maxwell, you only really need 5 nightmare fuel, a hambat, 2 marble suits, 3 bee keeper hats and 3 pierogis. As Wendy, all you gotta do is bring 2 distilled vengeance or 2 nightshade nostrum, 1 spectre cure-all, 2 marble suits, 3 bee keeper hats and 3 pierogies and a hambat as well.

All you do if hold F and the boss is dead. Well, you can basically do that with almost every old boss in the game, but reworking them would make me scared because of what they did with crab king. Combat in DST is simple and effective, hold f and kiting are the only mechanics there is to kill every mob in the game, animation cancelling is just a bonus.

For me, Crab king was ok, Bee queen and dragonfly and Klaus are all perfectly ok, and deerclops is fine too.

What they did with the 3 lunar bosses was to make these current bosses a little harder, and I believe that this was the perfect approach to making the fights different without reworking them. I miss old crab king and I even told everyone how BAD of an idea it would be to rework the boss. Certaintly changing some little things here and there would be better suited for making the bosses a bit less uncompromising, but the rework just killed the old one which is never a good developing design in my opinion.

They should not rework any boss or enemy that already exists, as well as not change too much of the old game unless it is super necessary like the reap what you sow Update. What they did with changing slightly the attack pattern and range of deerclops and bearger was a perfect addition and little change imo. They should just tweak thing but never rework them.

[Beetrice]

Old crab king was lame as hell lol, you gather like 5 weather pains and ice staves and then just spam him to death or instantly get your boat sunk, I think you're experiencing stockholm syndrome

[aidankocherhans]

On 1/14/2025 at 8:52 PM, Swiyss said:

he would freeze you forever if you missed 1 single hit

I cannot fathom how anybody could consider this a good mechanic

[Mike23Ua]

Hear me out on this cause it’s going to get a little controversial.

DST is now officially a 10 year old game, that would be fine if DST was a classic traditional old school game something like I don’t know… Sonic the Hedgehog 3, a game you KNOW won’t ever get any new content or updates…

But that’s not what DST is, DST is more like a Live-Service game- a game that is constantly changing… evolving, adding new content, new QoL, Changing the rules, etc..

and judging my opinion entirely off of that point of view: Old Content feels how do I say this..? “Outdated”

Like I’m 100% sure that over the years, (& more importantly as time passed, technology improved, the developers learned new skills/wanted to try new ideas) That somewhere along the way someone working at Klei had to look at old content like Bee Queens boss fight and think to themselves, “I could make this way more fun & engaging if I changed X or add Y or Made Bee Queen only scream for her minions to come help her after she darts around and attempts to sting you and slams her stinger into the ground getting stuck for a few moments.”

Rather she NEEDS a rework or not isn’t the point, the point is DST is treated as a live-service game: new content, new character abilities, even brand new weather seasons and other additional challenges will always ALWAYS make you go back and do a double take… On older areas of the gameplay.

[Bumber64]

6 hours ago, Beetrice said:

Old crab king was lame as hell lol, you gather like 5 weather pains and ice staves and then just spam him to death or instantly get your boat sunk, I think you're experiencing stockholm syndrome

That or the bees. Watch him fail to fight back at all.

[Swiyss]

On 1/19/2025 at 2:36 PM, Beetrice said:

Old crab king was lame as hell lol, you gather like 5 weather pains and ice staves and then just spam him to death or instantly get your boat sunk, I think you're experiencing stockholm syndrome

you didn't need weather pains for the fight.

[Guille6785]

she never did

[Frosty_Mentos]

We have enough tools to deal with her and she doesn't need one.

If it were me back then I'd argue that toadstool needs a rework, but what really needs a rework in mentality of players on how to tackle these bosses.