Blessed Sisturn III is one of my biggests disappointments with Klei.

[Picklesaurus]

I just wanted an easier time helping Abigail dodge attacks and position while i'm fighting by her side which I though was being worked on and was going to be the purpose of Gestalt Abigail and Team Spirit skills. Instead of that Klei changes course and gives me a tanky abomination that is capable of being healed for more than some bosses can deal damage, it is like having a pet Weremoose that has acess to inventory healing as my ghost sister, why would you do that? What is the point of Gestalt Abigail and Team Spirit skills now? Should I just accept that they were cast asside and that the easiest route has been taken by turning all Abi forms into tanky monstrosities? 

I have never been so disappointed with Klei as I am by the way they are managing this Beta.

[Dingle]

I'm really interested to see how Wendy ends up for balance, in the end.

[Lardee]

4 minutes ago, Picklesaurus said:

I just wanted an easier time helping Abigail dodge attacks and position while i'm fighting by her side which I though was being worked on and was going to be the purpose of Gestalt Abigail and Team Spirit skills. Instead of that Klei changes course and gives me a tanky abomination that is capable of being healed for more than some bosses can deal damage, it is like having a pet Weremoose that has acess to inventory healing as my ghost sister, why would you do that? What is the point of Gestalt Abigail and Team Spirit skills now? Should I just accept that they were cast asside and that the easiest route has been taken by turning all Abi forms into tanky monstrosities? 

I have never been so disappointed with Klei as I am by the way they are managing this Beta.

The bolded is so true. Why would anyone bother using team spirit when you have the option to make her unkillable?

Nightmare Werepig and AG are the only bosses where you can't just pretend Abigail isn't there.

[Xplan]

 Give back Gestalt Abigail her atk invulnerability would be a great solution

[Steorra]

It's a bit dramatic to say current Abi become a weremoose... I'm sorry... But it still far more weaker than it, even weaker than treeguards and spiders of Webber.

Lunar Abi is completely broken now and I guess she would get a impressive buff next time. 

I've suggested that to keep player tag for only regular Abi, and make cursed Vex as a high risk high reward thing for Shadow Abi only. 

I personally think Lunar Abi should just rollback to what she was, and give her a change to ensure that if Wendy stop attacking her target then she lost damage, which is similar like Shadow Duelist to Maxwell.

 

I hope all of us could have an option to enjoy our own gameplay in the end.

[layangan putus]

Have you ever played with other players? Join their server with bad latency so there will be delay when playing? Let's say you can kill a difficult boss cleanly with that delay - Well done! Now do that every 20 days for 10 times because I don't care how you do it, just drop the loots inside the chest after you're done and go on your way fighting another boss soon respawned because we have big project to finish. You can prove your gaming skill all you want but in the end you are just human so mistakes are bound to be made - Hopefully it's not so severe that you become burden for other players trying to revive you, thus delaying the whole project. Is this DS Solo or DS Together?

[Lardee]

15 minutes ago, Xplan said:

 Give back Gestalt Abigail her atk invulnerability would be a great solution

Have you actually tried current Gestalt Abigail against bosses?

5 minutes ago, DST enjoyer said:

Have you ever played with other players? Join their server with bad latency so there will be delay when playing? Let's say you can kill a difficult boss cleanly with that delay - Well done! Now do that every 20 days for 10 times because I don't care how you do it, just drop the loots inside the chest after you're done and go on your way fighting another boss soon respawned because we have big project to finish. You can prove your gaming skill all you want but in the end you are just human so mistakes are bound to be made - Hopefully it's not so severe that you become burden for other players trying to revive you, thus delaying the whole project. Is this DS Solo or DS Together?

Klei already has solutions to those mistakes. Not only that, but fighting bosses with other players is way more OP than anything in Wendy's skill tree. 

[Xplan]

Just now, Lardee said:

Have you actually tried current Gestalt Abigail against bosses?

sure, it is a far more interesting way to play.

it's pity that it is gone.

[Lardee]

Just now, Xplan said:

sure, it is a far more interesting way to play.

it's pity that it is gone.

I ask because I've tried her a bit and I can't think of a single boss she struggles to survive against as long as you have one or two Spectral Cure All.

[layangan putus]

3 minutes ago, Lardee said:

Klei already has solutions to those mistakes. Not only that, but fighting bosses with other players is way more OP than anything in Wendy's skill tree. 

Do you mean rollback because that means wasting everyone's time and it's rarely done. You split jobs for building, farming, and fighting so you are not always together doing something. There will be also a moment when you are alone for the task in the server so gotta clock in and do your plan alone.

[cyjs]

klei should cancel all skill trees, they have broken the balance, DSTis no longer a survival game, everyone can easily defeat the boss, where are our survival games?

[Xplan]

4 minutes ago, Lardee said:

Have you actually tried current Gestalt Abigail against bosses?

i missed the word "current", i mean the first version which she still has  atk invincibility.

Just now, Lardee said:

I ask because I've tried her a bit and I can't think of a single boss she struggles to survive against as long as you have one or two Spectral Cure All.

yeah, not bad. still can be stronger.

[Lardee]

1 minute ago, DST enjoyer said:

Do you mean rollback because that means wasting everyone's time and it's rarely done. You split jobs for building, farming, and fighting so you are not always together doing something. There will be also a moment when you are alone for the task in the server so gotta clock in and do your plan alone.

No, I mean solutions like Spectral Cure All and Ghastly Experience. If you have people to play with and choose to fight a boss in secret, that's on you.

[layangan putus]

1 minute ago, Lardee said:

No, I mean solutions like Spectral Cure All and Ghastly Experience. If you have people to play with and choose to fight a boss in secret, that's on you.

Player tag existence would improve the general efficiency for this specific situation, that's why they've been supporting "OP buff" and I instantly realized since the outrageous posts came in. Well not much can be done if we need to always stick together because of the tight schedule. There is no secret if we're using discord and typing in chat communicating to each other, I feel you are lacking this togetherness experience but understandable since you are content creator.

[Xplan]

5 minutes ago, Lardee said:

No, I mean solutions like Spectral Cure All and Ghastly Experience. If you have people to play with and choose to fight a boss in secret, that's on you.

Nah, that just divided jobs. Players there love doing speedruns together.

[Lardee]

Just now, Xplan said:

Nah, that just divided jobs. Players there love doing speedruns together.

If you're doing speedruns, then you're not a casual player. 

[Steorra]

30 minutes ago, Lardee said:

Klei already has solutions to those mistakes. Not only that, but fighting bosses with other players is way more OP than anything in Wendy's skill tree. 

What? You mean we are playing don't starve lonely but not don't starve together?

[Xplan]

Just now, Lardee said:

If you're doing speedruns, then you're not a casual player. 

the issue about "casual player" was not discussed here.

He just said: Wendy is not only weak but also unstable.

[Lardee]

3 minutes ago, DST enjoyer said:

Player tag existence would improve the general efficiency for this specific situation, that's why they've been supporting "OP buff" and I instantly realized since the outrageous posts came in. Well not much can be done if we need to always stick together because of the tight schedule. There is no secret if we're using discord and typing in chat communicating to each other, I feel you are lacking this togetherness experience but understandable since you are content creator.

Giving Abigail 99% damage resistance would also " improve the general efficiency for this specific situation". That's why it's not an argument. If you're rushing things, then you're not playing the game casually. You have both skillful and less skillful that do not require the player tag.

There's plenty that can be done if you get together when necessary. I've played many games on public servers and with friends, I know how the together experience is.

 

[Steorra]

9 minutes ago, Lardee said:

If you're doing speedruns, then you're not a casual player. 

I do with Woodie for some particular target speedrun, I'm casual. Woodie is OP incoming.

[Lardee]

1 minute ago, Xplan said:

the issue about "casual player" was not discussed here.

He just said: Wendy is not only weak but also unstable.

If we're not talking about casual players, then the player tag argument goes completely out the window since it's not needed due to skill and elixirs.

[Xplan]

Just now, Lardee said:

If we're not talking about casual players, then the player tag argument goes completely out the window since it's not needed due to skill and elixirs.

That's strange, do you need armors and weapons?

[Lardee]

1 minute ago, Steorra said:

I do with Woodie for some particular target speedrun, I'm casual. Woodie is OP incoming.

If you're speedrunning, then you're not playing the game casually, therefore all the arguments for casual players do not apply to you.

Just now, Xplan said:

That's strange, do you need armors and weapons?

You probably do, however this is irrelevant to the point.

[Steorra]

6 minutes ago, Lardee said:

If you're speedrunning, then you're not playing the game casually, therefore all the arguments for casual players do not apply to you.

No? Woodie is EZ for early ruin rush and many bosses rush. I'm casual indeed.

[Xplan]

Just now, Lardee said:

If you're speedrunning, then you're not playing the game casually, therefore all the arguments for casual players do not apply to you.

You probably do, however this is irrelevant to the point.

you are a "skillful" player.

do you need armors, weapons, or any other resources.