Lee lol Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Tell us what you're happy about Wendy's skill tree so they know what kind of skill tree we want: Well, I'll start by saying: 1. Gestalt Abi's combat format is fun (stats and strength are not discussed) Converting AOE to single damage gives Abigail more flexibility and makes it easier for her to survive in battle (my sister has already taken enough injuries and it's fun to watch her float) 2. Sisterhood improves Abiy's maneuverability, skills such as dashing and stealth, allowing Abi to better assist in combat while staying away from the battlefield when dangerous. 3. The Grave skill is a blessing for the builder, and it is easier to farm potions There are many players in the game who don't like to fight, and just like to build their base more beautifully. Tombstones can sometimes hinder base building, while movable tombstones can be used for some Halloween-themed decorations (there will be a Tombstone skin for Christmas, Kelei?). )。 Sometimes the Tombstone will be far away from the base, making it inconvenient to farm potions. With this skill, mass production is possible. 4. The picnic basket is handy and can save the grid as the name suggests, although it is also standard for skill trees Other advantages...... To be added Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 The single one thing I’m looking most forward to is the Haunt command prompt. And I’m excited that the devs will be tweaking that so Abigail has higher chances of having something happen compared to normal dead player ghosts. I don’t think you realize how much this can and will affect, or for that matter what hidden little surprises Klei may add to it during the beta or perhaps even in Future updated beyond that. As just an example: if Abigail has a higher chance to haunt grass does this mean she can perhaps force grass geckos to mutate from it? Hmm.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzzzzzzz Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 I like haunting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 The only thing from Wendy skilltree I definitely love is those commands by learning team spirit line. Pipspook line is meh. It brings a true QoL and it is just an average QoL skills which others have as well. Others are not good for me. Gravestone replanting is a bit unsuitable for Wendy as she is more like a Medium but not a character like Necromancer, Wednesdays or Shaman. And still much space for improvements for other lines. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 What I love about this skilltree is no requirement to take Vengeful Ghost skill in any scenario. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 5, 2024 Author Share Posted December 5, 2024 30 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: The single one thing I’m looking most forward to is the Haunt command prompt. And I’m excited that the devs will be tweaking that so Abigail has higher chances of having something happen compared to normal dead player ghosts. I don’t think you realize how much this can and will affect, or for that matter what hidden little surprises Klei may add to it during the beta or perhaps even in Future updated beyond that. As just an example: if Abigail has a higher chance to haunt grass does this mean she can perhaps force grass geckos to mutate from it? Hmm.. For now it seems that Abi has the same chance as players to haunt successfully, i do hope they can adjust it too, because through command abi to haunt is more inconvenient that yourself died and haunt…… Oh no, did i just mentioned another bad thing? I didnt meant it.Say good things. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudf Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Haunting has so many potentials. The picnic basket is handy and also cute. It feels so good that Abigail can quickly dash to Wendy's side when Abigail is out of screen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 5, 2024 Author Share Posted December 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, cloudf said: Haunting has so many potentials. The picnic basket is handy and also cute. It feels so good that Abigail can quickly dash to Wendy's side when Abigail is out of screen. Cound you explain it more? Because as i know, what abi can does through haunting could also be done by the players. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudf Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 6 hours ago, Lee lol said: Cound you explain it more? Because as i know, what abi can does through haunting could also be done by the players. You can effortlessly turn mushrooms near base into green or blue mushrooms. You can turn pigs into werepigs and kill them for more loots. You can turn hounds into ice or fire ones to get gems early, as an alternative to digging graves. If the chance is higher, you can use star callers and deconstruction staffs without costing sanity, I think it could be useful in early ruin rushes. It seems that you can't haunt a telelocator staff to teleport a player according to wiki, that's a bummer. You can rile up Abigail (to make her a bit away from you), tell her to haunt a telelocator, and quickly pick up a suspicious marble, and it could teleport you along with the marble. Further testing may be needed. Check my later comments. Edit 2: Haunting picked mushrooms will no longer spoil your mushrooms and the stack bug has been fixed at some point, which means you can turn green caps into blue caps and vice versa. Still, 10% chance is a bit low if you have only a few, but picking 80 blue caps in the blue mushroom forest and turning 40 into green ones sounds great. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Well, the whole idea of gestalt Abi is quite astonishing and interesting. And haunt is also good. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Theres quite a lot to love. Its no wolfgang where his whole tree is numbers. Alignment perks are different and unique. Team spirit is a good way of moving Wendy away from the rat race she got into with willow. The first two tiers of the potion branch are much appreciated qol. The stated future chamges to buffing mg and headstones are the right areas to focus. Vengeful ghost is funny. Really my only problem with her tree now is most of the final tier perks are weak. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1 minute ago, WenericMember said: Theres quite a lot to love. Its no wolfgang where his whole tree is numbers. Alignment perks are different and unique. The shadow alignment perk made Wendy more Wolfgang than Wolfgang Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudf Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Teleport yourself along with the marble proof of concept (I changed the chance to 100%) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, cloudf said: Teleport yourself along with the marble proof of concept (I changed the chance to 100%) genius Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1 hour ago, cloudf said: tell her to haunt a telelocator, and quickly pick up a suspicious marble, and it could teleport you along with the marble From my testing Abigail teleported herself 5 out of 5 times and all I got was hit from the lightning but maybe I'm just unlucky... Edit: Ah, you gotta stand on top of the staff to get teleported, my bad! Spoiler "Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power." ~ Wortox, Winona and Wanda (probably) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 21 minutes ago, YXukun said: The shadow alignment perk made Wendy more Wolfgang than Wolfgang I get what you mean. But wolfgangs issue is his perks were unconditonal, making them boring. Wendys shadow alignment has similar effects, but is contextualised in an interesting manner imo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudf Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 31 minutes ago, Sapientis said: From my testing Abigail teleported herself 5 out of 5 times and all I got was hit from the lightning but maybe I'm just unlucky... I think I actually can do it consistently, maybe the staff will just teleport the closest entity? Edit: I think it's safe to say the staff will always teleport the nearest entity. There's a GetClosestInstWithTag in simutil.lua, which is a thin wrapper over TheSim:FindEntities. I believe it relies on TheSim:FindEntities returns its results sorted from closest to farthest. The tele staff chooses a target using FindEntity, which is also a thin wrapper over TheSim:FindEntities. (Thanks god I thought they would do some randomization.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 I like the vengeance skill Thematically excellent, fits her well, mechanically flavorful, unlocks fun moments Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
purelove Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Because she was the first character I played when I was invited to join the game by my friends, she was also the most attractive character for me to enter the character selection interface Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 5, 2024 Author Share Posted December 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, purelove said: Because she was the first character I played when I was invited to join the game by my friends, she was also the most attractive character for me to enter the character selection interface Dude, that's the reason why you like Wendy, guessing the skill tree has nothing to attract you now( Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudf Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, purelove said: Because she was the first character I played when I was invited to join the game by my friends, she was also the most attractive character for me to enter the character selection interface Sorry I mean no offense, but I believe the word "attractive" is not suitable here. (I might be wrong, I'm not a native English speaker either.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
purelove Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, Lee lol said: Dude, that's the reason why you like Wendy, guessing the skill tree has nothing to attract you now( Although she is my favorite character, in fact, in many cases, her fun and difficulty is really high, in the case of multiplayer online, because there is no up and down cave pause and other functions, most of the time to play her only as a planting base aid, and other effects, if there is a chance to make her more play, I will not give up such an opportunity Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikers Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 For me, relocating graves is the best part of the skill tree. I have lots of ideas on how to use them for decorations and farms Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
purelove Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 10 minutes ago, cloudf said: Sorry I mean no offense, but I believe the word "attractive" is not suitable here. (I might be wrong, I'm not a native English speaker either.) I mean, because she was the first character I ever played, the original partner, and actually, this pixel-style game, no one had a sick thought. I've always treated Wendy like a sister or a daughter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 5, 2024 Author Share Posted December 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, purelove said: Although she is my favorite character, in fact, in many cases, her fun and difficulty is really high, in the case of multiplayer online, because there is no up and down cave pause and other functions, most of the time to play her only as a planting base aid, and other effects, if there is a chance to make her more play, I will not give up such an opportunity I dont understand. You mean Wendy is harder to play in multiplayer game? Why? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161844-i-think-we-are-tired-of-the-posts-about-how-wendys-skill-tree-is-bad-so-why-dont-we-talk-about-what-we-love-about-it/#findComment-1768840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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