Huge problem with tombstones, they can become tools of evil!

[cyjs]

You can plant it in the ground to prevent tillage, you can plant it in front of the refrigerator so you can never open it again, the same goes for storage boxes

What's even more outrageous is that as long as a few more flowers are decorated, the ghost will completely collapse others. Powerful SAN auras are floating around, killing cattle and disrupting factory operations. You can't stop them, 400 health and will respawn after a minute,

Things are not over yet, the most terrible thing has not happened yet. Only five gravestones are needed in the atrium to prevent Shadow Weaver from being summoned (due to the spacing between the skeleton and the gravestones，You can't put them in the atrium). Planting them in the middle of the three cracks on Moon Island can prevent the summoning of immortals (because the immortal altar cannot be placed),

All I can do is beg Wendy to shovel the tombstone down, or let Wendy shovel it down. I can't imagine what it would be like without an administrator. It would become a tool for troublemakers.

 

They should be replaced with better ideas because I don't hate looking for tombstones where little loners live

[1007954611]

19 minutes ago, cyjs said:

你可以把它种在地里以防止耕作，你可以把它种在冰箱前面，这样你就再也不能打开它了，储物盒也是如此

更离谱的是，只要多装饰几朵花，鬼就会彻底瓦解其他花。强大的 SAN 光环四处飘荡，杀死牛群并扰乱工厂运营。你无法阻止他们，400 生命值，一分钟后会重生，

事情还没有结束，最可怕的事情还没有发生。中庭只需要五块墓碑就可以防止织影者被召唤出来（由于骷髅和墓碑之间的距离，你不能把它们放在中庭里）。将它们种植在月亮岛上的三道裂缝中间，可以防止仙人的召唤（因为仙坛无法放置），

我能做的就是求温蒂把墓碑铲下来，或者让温蒂把它铲下来。我无法想象没有管理员会是什么样子。它将成为麻烦制造者的工具。

 

它们应该被更好的想法所取代，因为我不讨厌寻找小孤独者居住的墓碑

我觉得迁坟这种会造成破坏的基础功能应该给所有角色共通，温蒂保留装饰墓碑的效果就好，顺便给温蒂装饰的墓碑加点其他功能，比如夜晚的鬼火

[gaymime]

why not do what is done with bridges & docks and make special structure areas unable to accept planted gravestones?

[cyjs]

5 minutes ago, gaymime said:

为什么不像桥梁和码头那样，让特殊结构区域无法接受种植的墓碑呢？

too much,

open the refrigerator
Eat monster meat and die
Resurrection with a necklace
buried skeleton
alright
This tombstone uses the most invincible code in the game - my layer is above yours
You won’t be able to open this refrigerator anymore.
I smashed the refrigerator and couldn't put it back because of the tombstone.
While I was decorating the flowers, the ghost came too.

[Radicaljoe]

Griefing is so simple, I don't think it should be such a high level of balance importance.

Like, 2 twigs and 2 grass can make your base and items disappear easier than wendy making a grave in base.

[Mysterious box]

I think the easiest solution would be graves planted by Wendy will collapse into plantable graves when hammered by other players. 

[Radicaljoe]

Yeah that also works, like Warlys crockpot

[purelove]

2 hours ago, gaymime said:

why not do what is done with bridges & docks and make special structure areas unable to accept planted gravestones?

You can't stop a skeleton from being born, just die and come back to life and turn the skeleton into a tomb.

[gaymime]

2 hours ago, purelove said:

You can't stop a skeleton from being born, just die and come back to life and turn the skeleton into a tomb.

you dont kneed a grave. just die in front of a fridge. the skeleton has always blocked the space

[PunkShark]

Wicker can grief with books, Woodie can grief with Beaver tail or slam into things as moose, Wx can eat your gears-
All characters can grief one way or another. Wendy being able to grief is nothing different than hammering or burning a base down as anyone. It should not be in discussion of skill tree balance.

[WenericMember]

Just now, PunkShark said:

Wicker can grief with books, Woodie can grief with Beaver tail or slam into things as moose, Wx can eat your gears-
All characters can grief one way or another. Wendy being able to grief is nothing different than hammering or burning a base down as anyone. It should not be in discussion of skill tree balance.

Those things are immediately noticable and can be solved by a rollback.

It's pretty easy for people to not notice a Wendy Placing graves in the Atrium until the period of supported rollback expired.

I think that's the difference in my eyes.

[PunkShark]

1 minute ago, WenericMember said:

Those things are immediately noticable and can be solved by a rollback.

It's pretty easy for people to not notice a Wendy Placing graves in the Atrium until the period of supported rollback expired.

I think that's the difference in my eyes.

While this would be an issue in the past, graves no longer have a hitbox to block with other than construction. This was changed with the ancient guardian rework to prevent cheesing him.

[WenericMember]

1 minute ago, PunkShark said:

While this would be an issue in the past, graves no longer have a hitbox to block with other than construction. This was changed with the ancient guardian rework to prevent cheesing him.

I've tested it, it can bock the spawning of AF.

[PunkShark]

Just now, WenericMember said:

I've tested it, it can bock the spawning of AF.

That is quite a commitment to place and create *that* many graves. I'd genuinely be pretty astounded if someone managed to do that.

[WenericMember]

5 minutes ago, PunkShark said:

That is quite a commitment to place and create *that* many graves. I'd genuinely be pretty astounded if someone managed to do that.

According to OP it can be done in 5 graves, haven't been THAT dedicated to optimizing it so i can't verify it, but if that's true that many graves spawn naturally in a graveyard..

[Cassielu]

20 minutes ago, gaymime said:

you dont kneed a grave. just die in front of a fridge. the skeleton has always blocked the space

I think the problem here is that other character can destroy skeleton with hammers, but they can't destroy grave.

[gaymime]

7 minutes ago, Cassielu said:

I think the problem here is that other character can destroy skeleton with hammers, but they can't destroy grave.

i know this but the suggestion of making a grave destroyable does not seem to make any difference to the OP so why the extra time and effort of making the grave?

[cyjs]

4 hours ago, gaymime said:

我知道这一点，但制作一个可摧毁的坟墓的建议似乎对OP没有任何影响，所以为什么要花额外的时间和精力来制作坟墓呢？

to cause trouble，Let others spend unnecessary energy to deal with it

[Radicaljoe]

6 hours ago, WenericMember said:

I've tested it, it can bock the spawning of AF.

Listen, greifers don't typically have the skill or attention span to locate the arena, make 5 statues, and get through the atrium to place them. They show up to servers for a quick "teehee I ruined the base :D" then they leave. If a person DOES have the ability to do all that, and their heart is full of enough malice to do that, then they also would have the same ability to do other equally devastating griefs.

You can get Pearl on a boat and sail her to the corner of the world, they'll have no clue how to find her, and cc will be unfinishable. Same thing for the altar pieces, row them to a distant part of the ocean. Kill every beefalo on the server so noone can have one. And a bunch of other intensive griefing methods that noone might notice for a couple days.

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

我感觉墓碑可以改成，大家都可以挖走墓碑，温蒂的技能树可以利用起来墓碑 相对的技能点也减少一些，3点浪费在墓碑上实在是太多了。这段不知道怎么翻译