isilvers Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 There are a lot of Chinese players, and most of them are friendly to Klei and don't care about the recent updates. But we can also see that some people are encouraged by a certain forum to attack Klei, I want to say that these people are not many, their extreme remarks can not replace everyone. But they use all Chinese players as a shield for their own selfish interests, which is shameful, and not everyone on this forum agrees with them. But unfortunately, the administrators and groups of the forum used their power to block those who disagreed with them and delete those who disagreed with them. As long as you do not insult Klei in the forum post, the normal communication game will be put on the "Klei filial son" hat, and then banned, deleted posts and abuse. This time, I personally do not evaluate the strength of Wendy's skill tree, but the abuse of power in the forum, the prohibition of voices different from my own, the abuse of violence, and the group guidance to attack the Klei forum really left me speechless. I hope Klei doesn't back down because of these people, otherwise they will just turn this community upside down. Forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for someone to gain personal gain. I don't want the famine I've loved so much for so many years to be run amok by these people. As an ancient civilization, China needs literacy, not abuse. Wouldn't you be ashamed if these extreme muggers saw my post? Attached are two screenshots of posts from forum management, using authority in forums to implement bureaucracy, forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for you to flaunt your power. People who do not agree with their views will be criticized by these people as heresy and then judge and abuse, these actions are really terrible! 这个饥荒论坛很乱的，玩个小游戏，还出什么游戏领域的大神举大旗竖旗帜，有点权利的小吧务滥用权利捂嘴。现在更是魔怔到你要强行站队，说个不字都算作维护科雷份子，发个帖子味道重的不行，还右倾本本主义，一股官僚作风 。想当官去从政好吗，别去游戏论坛搬弄自己的小权利。意见不一样的要被盖帽子打成异端反动派，你们是邪教吗？不让别人有指导瘾是表面说法，只有自己能指导才是他们的真实想法。 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 ...is it getting translated correctly? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugur01 Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 The Chinese need to stop seeing themselves as a different group. There are people, including me, who do not speak English in their own countries. We communicate by translating what we write. We do not write in our own language. We do not impose this on people. This is getting annoying. Two or three Chinese people think they represent all of China. The main language of the forum is English Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyMole Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 32分钟前，Ugur01说: 中国人需要停止将自己视为一个不同的群体。有些人，包括我在内，在自己的国家不会说英语。我们通过翻译我们写的东西来交流。我们不用自己的语言写作。我们不会把这一点强加给别人。这越来越令人恼火了。两三个中国人认为他们代表了整个中国。 论坛的主要语言为英语 只有少数人这么想，试图通过这种方法让自己的声音变得“重要”。事实上，他们只代表他们自己——每个在论坛上发言的人只代表他们。或者，我来自地球，代表整个星球？ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 1 hour ago, isilvers said: There are a lot of Chinese players, and most of them are friendly to Klei and don't care about the recent updates. But we can also see that some people are encouraged by a certain forum to attack Klei, I want to say that these people are not many, their extreme remarks can not replace everyone. But they use all Chinese players as a shield for their own selfish interests, which is shameful, and not everyone on this forum agrees with them. But unfortunately, the administrators and groups of the forum used their power to block those who disagreed with them and delete those who disagreed with them. As long as you do not insult Klei in the forum post, the normal communication game will be put on the "Klei filial son" hat, and then banned, deleted posts and abuse. This time, I personally do not evaluate the strength of Wendy's skill tree, but the abuse of power in the forum, the prohibition of voices different from my own, the abuse of violence, and the group guidance to attack the Klei forum really left me speechless. I hope Klei doesn't back down because of these people, otherwise they will just turn this community upside down. Forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for someone to gain personal gain. I don't want the famine I've loved so much for so many years to be run amok by these people. As an ancient civilization, China needs literacy, not abuse. Wouldn't you be ashamed if these extreme muggers saw my post? Attached are two screenshots of posts from forum management, using authority in forums to implement bureaucracy, forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for you to flaunt your power. People who do not agree with their views will be criticized by these people as heresy and then judge and abuse, these actions are really terrible! 这个饥荒论坛很乱的，玩个小游戏，还出什么游戏领域的大神举大旗竖旗帜，有点权利的小吧务滥用权利捂嘴。现在更是魔怔到你要强行站队，说个不字都算作维护科雷份子，发个帖子味道重的不行，还右倾本本主义，一股官僚作风 。想当官去从政好吗，别去游戏论坛搬弄自己的小权利。意见不一样的要被盖帽子打成异端反动派，你们是邪教吗？不让别人有指导瘾是表面说法，只有自己能指导才是他们的真实想法。 Really made it seem like so. They are certainly giving you guys a bad rep, I feel sorry for you. Let's do our best to give Klei as much constructive feedback as possible while keeping our forums nice! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayi Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 你说的不要退缩是指什么？不改善温蒂的技能树吗？ 另外截图里所说的内容是在倡议用户在Klei论坛反馈，这成就宗教了？百度贴吧的管理问题也不适合在Klei的Beta论坛发帖讨论吧，你发这篇帖子除了引战还能做什么？我只能说，你在引发争议方面表现得不够成熟。 What you said about not backing down, does it mean not improving Wendy's skill tree? Also, the content in the screenshot is advocating for users to give feedback on the Klei forum, has this become a religion? Management issues of Baidu Tieba are not suitable for discussion on the Klei Beta forum, what else can your post do besides inciting conflict? I can only say that you are not being mature enough in stirring up controversy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huijing Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 上来先扣帽子？然后马上断章取义，歪曲我们的行为目的，污蔑我们的言语动机。少数不能代表多数，你凭什么是多数？凭你一家之言就把我们打成少数派！偏激的是谁，被煽动的是谁？不是我们！ 的确一小部分人言语偏激，但来论坛讨论的大部分人都尽量保持基本的礼仪。只有你们一小部分人把我们的话断章取义，在这引起对立的家伙就是你这种人，以偏概全，身为少数还用少数污蔑多数的就是你这种人！ 我们以和平的动机来到这里与大家讨论，你以为我们没有在呼吁大家平和交流吗？没有像你这样人的断章取义，哪会有被煽动的争吵，哪里有现在的对立？ 我一直主张和平交流，认为过激的行为言论会引人反感，导致现实与心愿相悖。我会说别人言语偏激的行为不对，但我不会污蔑他们的动机，因为我知道我们的心愿一致。而你玷污了我们最基本的出发点，让我们为了所爱之物的努力蒙尘！ 自以为一味妥协就是正确，只不过是一个跪久了站不起来的软骨头罢了。 You slander us from the beginning, and then you immediately take it out of context, distort the purpose of our actions, and slander the motives of our words. A minority does not represent a majority, are you the majority? It's ridiculous to make us a minority with your words! Who is the radical and who is incited? Not us! It's true that a small number of players are vehement, but most of the people who come to the forum try to maintain basic etiquette. It's people like you who take our words out of context , who are causing opposition here , who generalizes partially, and it is you who are the minority and use the minority to slander the majority! We are here with peaceful motives to discuss with you, do you think we are not calling for peaceful exchanges? Without people like you taking things out of context, where would there be incited quarrels, where would there be the current antagonism? I have always advocated peaceful exchanges, believing that radical behavior and rhetoric can lead to offending reality and aspirations. I would say that other people's verbal behavior is wrong, but I will not slander their motives, because I know that we are on the same page. And you have tarnished our most basic starting point, leaving us dusted by our efforts for the things we love! Thinking that blindly compromising is the right thing to do, it's just a soft bone that can't stand up after kneeling for a long time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 I don't know what happened, but you are right. I come from China, which means you cannot represent the will of mine. Stop your intention of judging. Also have to clarify that Beta Branch forum is a place for feedback about beta server (for current stage is for those newest skill tree), not for your own personal vendetta. Stop bring more chaos here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 仗着别人看不懂中文就把吧务的说法歪曲成鼓动玩家攻击科雷是吧？吧务说的是应该以向科雷反馈为主，倡导的是让大家用机翻把自己的意见发到论坛就行了，没必要和论坛人吵来吵去，到你这成了“encouraged to attack klei”是吧？你这种软骨头的罕见除了让中国玩家彻底丧失话语权外什么都做不到。也别说什么“they use all Chinese players as a shield for their own selfish interests, which is shameful, and not everyone on this forum agrees with them.”，不如你自己在贴吧开个投票看看到底是满意的多还是不满意的多？ 右倾投降主义骂的还真对，每次中国玩家想要表达自己的诉求都有你这种人急忙跳出来当罕见捂自己人的嘴，不是右倾投降主义是什么？ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 7 hours ago, grm9 said: ...is it getting translated correctly? "bookish" should be dogmatism, "Post bar" should be Tieba, which is the name of the forum, "cloud players" refers to people who didnt play and likes to give their irrealistic opinions over certain games asif they had played 1 minute ago, Fitzee said: Only if the poll is constructive and relevant to the beta, and not secretly a tool to continue running this controversy to the ground. My dear fellow, how do you define a poll is constructive or not when a poll is simply "are you satisfied with wendy's skilltree? Yes or No"? Or would you believe that if the result shows "Yes", it's constructive, if the results shows "No", then it's secretly a tool to continue running this controversy to the ground? 7 hours ago, grm9 said: ...is it getting translated correctly? As for rightist, I dont know if it's proper translated. It's a word related to Marxism in china. Wiki describes "右倾" as this :右倾（Right deviation）是指政治思想上，认识落后于实际，不能随变化了的客观情况变化、前进，甚至违背客观发展规律的倾向。右倾思想如果形成为系统完整的路线，并在实践中贯彻便成为右倾机会主义。右倾机会主义在政治斗争中往往放弃原则，牺牲无产阶级根本利益而求得妥协，又叫右倾投降主义。 In this circumstance, the poster of this post, and not only this post, but other posts back in Tieba marks the part "放弃原则，牺牲无产阶级根本利益而求得妥协" pretty well, if you change "无产阶级" into "chinese players". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 8 hours ago, isilvers said: There are a lot of Chinese players, and most of them are friendly to Klei and don't care about the recent updates. But we can also see that some people are encouraged by a certain forum to attack Klei, I want to say that these people are not many, their extreme remarks can not replace everyone. But they use all Chinese players as a shield for their own selfish interests, which is shameful, and not everyone on this forum agrees with them. But unfortunately, the administrators and groups of the forum used their power to block those who disagreed with them and delete those who disagreed with them. As long as you do not insult Klei in the forum post, the normal communication game will be put on the "Klei filial son" hat, and then banned, deleted posts and abuse. This time, I personally do not evaluate the strength of Wendy's skill tree, but the abuse of power in the forum, the prohibition of voices different from my own, the abuse of violence, and the group guidance to attack the Klei forum really left me speechless. I hope Klei doesn't back down because of these people, otherwise they will just turn this community upside down. Forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for someone to gain personal gain. I don't want the famine I've loved so much for so many years to be run amok by these people. As an ancient civilization, China needs literacy, not abuse. Wouldn't you be ashamed if these extreme muggers saw my post? Attached are two screenshots of posts from forum management, using authority in forums to implement bureaucracy, forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for you to flaunt your power. People who do not agree with their views will be criticized by these people as heresy and then judge and abuse, these actions are really terrible! 这个饥荒论坛很乱的，玩个小游戏，还出什么游戏领域的大神举大旗竖旗帜，有点权利的小吧务滥用权利捂嘴。现在更是魔怔到你要强行站队，说个不字都算作维护科雷份子，发个帖子味道重的不行，还右倾本本主义，一股官僚作风 。想当官去从政好吗，别去游戏论坛搬弄自己的小权利。意见不一样的要被盖帽子打成异端反动派，你们是邪教吗？不让别人有指导瘾是表面说法，只有自己能指导才是他们的真实想法。 Okay that explains a lot about some behavior. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 11 minutes ago, Fitzee said: Only if the poll is constructive and relevant to the beta, and not secretly a tool to continue running this controversy to the ground. Only to inform you, a poll is already started back in Tieba, titling "Are you satisfied with wendy's skilltree?" and giving only two options which are "Yes" and "know", we'll see who's the "most", or rather say the "majority" several hours later. 7 hours ago, Ugur01 said: The Chinese need to stop seeing themselves as a different group. The point is that the Chinese IS a different group, for they dont often use forum. But I assume you meant a "more important" group? In that case it's still misunderstood. They, or rather say, we, meant that "more important than before", not "more important than the others", for klei had always lacked the conduit to communicate with, let alone receive the opinions from chinese players. 8 hours ago, Ugur01 said: There are people, including me, who do not speak English in their own countries. We communicate by translating what we write. We do not write in our own language. We do not impose this on people. This is getting annoying. Two or three Chinese people think they represent all of China. The main language of the forum is English As for language issues, that's why people are posting with machine translated english, if they dont possess a rather fine english skill. As for the "Two or three people" part, just a reminder, so far the poster of this looks more like the "two or three people", considering the fact that most chinese player who shows up in the forum are Not satisfied with wendy's update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
webberer Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 Please do not represent Chinese communities or misinterpretation their thoughts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
isilvers Posted November 27, 2024 Author Share Posted November 27, 2024 9小时前， Reiko24 说： 真的让它看起来像这样。他们肯定给你们带来了坏名声，我为你们感到难过。让我们尽最大努力为 Klei 提供尽可能多的建设性反馈，同时保持我们的论坛良好！ 你说得很对，建设性的建议是最重要的。我不得不说我有很大的压力要发布这个，因为他们现在正在批评我 7 hours ago, shengrufuyou said: 每次都有你这种人搁置这个歹意带截图节奏，在贴吧被人问候全家破防了，搁置这个寻求洋爹的帮助了为什么是吧？你这种狗今年以来罕见全家全家做泥头车创死，一个活不了，我再让温蒂铲子过去给你全家刨刨了 你的回应很好表达了我所说的正确性，谎言不会伤人，真相才是快刀。你说的全都还给你，另外感谢帮我顶贴，让我的帖子能被克雷看到。 3 hours ago, YXukun said: 仗着别人看不懂中文就把吧务的说法歪曲成鼓动玩家攻击科雷是吧？吧务说的是应该以向科雷反馈为主，倡导的是让大家用机翻把自己的意见发到论坛就行了，没必要和论坛人吵来吵去，到你这成了“encouraged to attack klei”是吧？你这种软骨头的罕见除了让中国玩家彻底丧失话语权外什么都做不到。也别说什么“they use all Chinese players as a shield for their own selfish interests, which is shameful, and not everyone on this forum agrees with them.”，不如你自己在贴吧开个投票看看到底是满意的多还是不满意的多？ 右倾投降主义骂的还真对，每次中国玩家想要表达自己的诉求都有你这种人急忙跳出来当罕见捂自己人的嘴，不是右倾投降主义是什么？ 本贴和温蒂技能树有关系吗，管好你自己，贴吧有多魔怔你自己有数。还有感谢帮我顶贴能让更多人看到。 5 hours ago, Huijing said: 上来先扣帽子？然后马上断章取义，歪曲我们的行为目的，污蔑我们的言语动机。少数不能代表多数，你凭什么是多数？凭你一家之言就把我们打成少数派！偏激的是谁，被煽动的是谁？不是我们！ 的确一小部分人言语偏激，但来论坛讨论的大部分人都尽量保持基本的礼仪。只有你们一小部分人把我们的话断章取义，在这引起对立的家伙就是你这种人，以偏概全，身为少数还用少数污蔑多数的就是你这种人！ 我们以和平的动机来到这里与大家讨论，你以为我们没有在呼吁大家平和交流吗？没有像你这样人的断章取义，哪会有被煽动的争吵，哪里有现在的对立？ 我一直主张和平交流，认为过激的行为言论会引人反感，导致现实与心愿相悖。我会说别人言语偏激的行为不对，但我不会污蔑他们的动机，因为我知道我们的心愿一致。而你玷污了我们最基本的出发点，让我们为了所爱之物的努力蒙尘！ 自以为一味妥协就是正确，只不过是一个跪久了站不起来的软骨头罢了。 You slander us from the beginning, and then you immediately take it out of context, distort the purpose of our actions, and slander the motives of our words. A minority does not represent a majority, are you the majority? It's ridiculous to make us a minority with your words! Who is the radical and who is incited? Not us! It's true that a small number of players are vehement, but most of the people who come to the forum try to maintain basic etiquette. It's people like you who take our words out of context , who are causing opposition here , who generalizes partially, and it is you who are the minority and use the minority to slander the majority! We are here with peaceful motives to discuss with you, do you think we are not calling for peaceful exchanges? Without people like you taking things out of context, where would there be incited quarrels, where would there be the current antagonism? I have always advocated peaceful exchanges, believing that radical behavior and rhetoric can lead to offending reality and aspirations. I would say that other people's verbal behavior is wrong, but I will not slander their motives, because I know that we are on the same page. And you have tarnished our most basic starting point, leaving us dusted by our efforts for the things we love! Thinking that blindly compromising is the right thing to do, it's just a soft bone that can't stand up after kneeling for a long time. 你可以在贴吧内发表和平建议试试会不会被删帖禁言并打成投降派。 10 hours ago, LazyMole said: 只有少数人这么想，试图通过这种方法让自己的声音变得“重要”。事实上，他们只代表他们自己——每个在论坛上发言的人只代表他们。或者，我来自地球，代表整个星球？ you are right 3 hours ago, Mr Giggio said: 好吧，这解释了很多关于某些行为的信息。谢谢。 You should see a lot of newly active faces here already criticizing me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1808220958 Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 11 hours ago, shengrufuyou said: 每次都有你这种人搁置这个歹意带截图节奏，在贴吧被人问候全家破防了，搁置这个寻求洋爹的帮助了为什么是吧？你这种狗今年以来罕见全家全家做泥头车创死，一个活不了，我再让温蒂铲子过去给你全家刨刨了 好强的攻击性我喜欢 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
isilvers Posted November 27, 2024 Author Share Posted November 27, 2024 51 minutes ago, 1808220958 said: 好强的攻击性我喜欢 你的母亲我也很喜欢 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1762944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 2 hours ago, isilvers said: I like your mother, too. 13 hours ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said: So you are the black guy! what the hell is even going on anymore dawg Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1763071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Dextops said: 到底发生了什么，老兄 There is internal strife among Chinese players, haha, his remarks are all slander. We will gather everyone's opinions tomorrow to refute him, and the lies will be self-defeating. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1763074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
isilvers Posted November 27, 2024 Author Share Posted November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, cyjs said: 中国玩家内部有内讧，哈哈，他的话都是污蔑。我们明天会收集大家的意见来反驳他，谎言会弄巧成拙。 别狡辩捂嘴了 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1763151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 22 hours ago, isilvers said: There are a lot of Chinese players, and most of them are friendly to Klei and don't care about the recent updates. But we can also see that some people are encouraged by a certain forum to attack Klei, I want to say that these people are not many, their extreme remarks can not replace everyone. But they use all Chinese players as a shield for their own selfish interests, which is shameful, and not everyone on this forum agrees with them. But unfortunately, the administrators and groups of the forum used their power to block those who disagreed with them and delete those who disagreed with them. As long as you do not insult Klei in the forum post, the normal communication game will be put on the "Klei filial son" hat, and then banned, deleted posts and abuse. This time, I personally do not evaluate the strength of Wendy's skill tree, but the abuse of power in the forum, the prohibition of voices different from my own, the abuse of violence, and the group guidance to attack the Klei forum really left me speechless. I hope Klei doesn't back down because of these people, otherwise they will just turn this community upside down. Forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for someone to gain personal gain. I don't want the famine I've loved so much for so many years to be run amok by these people. As an ancient civilization, China needs literacy, not abuse. Wouldn't you be ashamed if these extreme muggers saw my post? Attached are two screenshots of posts from forum management, using authority in forums to implement bureaucracy, forums are a place for people to exchange games, not a place for you to flaunt your power. People who do not agree with their views will be criticized by these people as heresy and then judge and abuse, these actions are really terrible! 这个饥荒论坛很乱的，玩个小游戏，还出什么游戏领域的大神举大旗竖旗帜，有点权利的小吧务滥用权利捂嘴。现在更是魔怔到你要强行站队，说个不字都算作维护科雷份子，发个帖子味道重的不行，还右倾本本主义，一股官僚作风 。想当官去从政好吗，别去游戏论坛搬弄自己的小权利。意见不一样的要被盖帽子打成异端反动派，你们是邪教吗？不让别人有指导瘾是表面说法，只有自己能指导才是他们的真实想法。 If you used Google Translate for this post, it proves that the translator isn't why those other people were being rude in their posts, because yours is reasonable and informative. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1763158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRoboButler Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 I am shocked by this behaviour, I knew that wendy would spark some discussion but this is just disappointing... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1763215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NINA1917 Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 12 hours ago, Dextops said: what the hell is even going on anymore dawg His original meaning was to paint something black, meaning a slanderer. There was a similar topic before, and I think from that time on, the internal hatred among Chinese players has begun to overflow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1763496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvvt0379 Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 23 hours ago, isilvers said: 你可以在贴吧内发表和平建议试试会不会被删帖禁言并打成投降派。 你又在贴吧上面发过几个帖子啊？ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1763573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1808220958 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 于 2024 年 11 月 27 日晚上 9：16， isilvers 说： 你的母亲我也很喜欢 看给你急得 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1764629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2390508611 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 I am a Chinese player, and this text was generated using online translation, so there may be some inappropriate expressions. It should be acknowledged that the player's statement in the second picture was quite unfriendly. He encouraged players who opposed Klei to speak on the forum and believed that Klei would ignore overly calm feedback, but he did not attempt to represent other players or ask others to agree with his opinion. In my opinion, this is a competitive technique, and as far as I know, it is a common behavior when facing voting or other public surveys around the world. The netizen in the first picture is mainly opposing the behavior of some players trying to prevent others from speaking, and believes that it is better to come here for communication in the Chinese community because it allows Klei to see. His speech was not as serious as it seemed, it was somewhat like a joke, but it was not too mild either. The people in these two pictures did not attempt to represent or incite unrelated players. On the contrary, I think this current post has the suspicion of misleading. Finally, personally, I am not satisfied with Wendy's changes, and as far as I know, most Chinese players also have this attitude. I think it may be because Chinese players value the opinions of technically advanced and long-time players, who are more likely to perceive Wendy's weakness when facing bosses and other powerful monsters 我是一名中国玩家，这段文字是采用在线翻译生成的，可能有表达不恰当的地方。应该承认，第二幅图上这名玩家的发言相当不友好，他鼓励反对klei的玩家在论坛上发言，并且认为klei会忽视过于冷静的反馈，但是他并没有试图代表其他玩家或者要求别人同意他的意见。在我看来这是一种竞争技巧，据我所知在世界各地面对投票或者其他人民调查的时候这是一种常见的行为。第一幅图上的网友主要是在反对有些玩家试图阻止其他人发言的行为，并且认为在中国社区上交流不如来到这里，因为这里能够让klei看到。这两幅图上的人并没有试图代表或者鼓动不相干的玩家。他的发言并没有看上去那么严肃，这有些像是一种玩笑，但也不会过于温和。反而是这个现在帖子，我认为有误导的嫌疑。最后，我个人对于Wendy的改动也并不满意，据我所知大部分中国既家也是这个态度。我觉得可能是因为中国玩家比较看重技术高时间长的家的意见，这些玩家更容易察觉到Wendy在面对Boss和其他强大怪物时的乏力 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161291-a-small-number-of-small-groups-of-chinese-players-do-not-represent-the-will-of-all-chinese-players/#findComment-1764667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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