More realistic opinions would be better

[webberer]

First of all, I am a 3000hrs dst & ds player and I sincerely respect friendly vibe here.

BUT I need to say something that may hurt SoMeoNe’s feelings because I hope our community stay healthy and become more constructive. Please step out if you do not want to see “criticism” stuff.

Please stop defending your beloved characters when you see someone else saying this character is weak even the fact that the character is so weak or so hard to play that players barely choose to play as this character. Low picking rate MEANS something! If you do think your character is strong enough, please give evidence that you have successfully survived 200+days and go over all bosses before you give your precious opinion. Especially for those who doesn’t even play this character.
Low picking rate > Small voice > devs think this character doesn’t need buffs, or less changes in skill tree. Please allow some different voices existing in this lovely forum, thanks for those who understand!

[Echsrick]

yes, i been out there as wortox in the beta forum place advocating for a better napsack, that instead of a weapon is a tool to kidnap up to medium sized creatures that you never before could capture like pigs and baby beefalos, and certain objects aswell like suspicous marble and some structures aswell, with the sack having an unique inventory that can only hold stealable things in it, would fit way more with the description of "wortox was close with krampus alot so he makes his own stealing sack" and i think its very fitting, and wortox realy is not a character that needs his own personal weapon just dont fit very well

[gaymime]

i am not sure i understand. people aren't complaining about low-pick characters being too weak?

[webberer]

6 minutes ago, gaymime said:

 

i am not sure i understand. people aren't complaining about low-pick characters being too weak?

 

Someone in this forum keeps saying a weak character is strong and unique, they are ignoring the fact that this character is so weak that no one wants play this character. It’s really annoying and stopping others giving ideas and thoughts, which is an unhealthy way to construct this community.

[Mike23Ua]

4 minutes ago, webberer said:

Someone in this forum keeps saying a weak character is strong and unique, they are ignoring the fact that this character is so weak that no one wants play this character. It’s really annoying and stopping others giving ideas and thoughts, which is an unhealthy way to construct this community.

Which characters do you feel is weak & why are they weak? As in what specific areas of the game are they Weak within?

I main Wendy and co-main Willow

Wendy is incredibly strong against small horde mentality mobs, but she is weak against Nightmare creatures which Abigail won’t help with at all (unless skill tree changes that..) & bosses who kill Abigail quickly, she’s also awfully slow at any other Non-Combat task such as chopping Wood or gathering Supplies, or even reviving other players (Wanda & Wigfrid do better jobs of that)

Willow on the other hand is incredibly strong against bosses and nightmare creatures, but is weak against hordes of smaller mobs and getting cold freezing faster (or was till skill tree..)

I honestly believe that Willow got every single thing I could possibly ask for as buffs to her during her skill tree.

Same as how the Wormwood mains (or want to be mains) rallied together to get major changes to his skill tree and eventually got most if not all they could possibly ask for in that skill tree.

Now it’s Wendy, Walter & Wortox’s turn.. and we shouldn’t settle for anything less than the cool and creative stuff other characters got. So long as nothing is INSANELY broken Op. 

[gaymime]

15 minutes ago, webberer said:

Someone in this forum keeps saying a weak character is strong and unique, they are ignoring the fact that this character is so weak that no one wants play this character. It’s really annoying and stopping others giving ideas and thoughts, which is an unhealthy way to construct this community.

well i haven't seen what you have seen but i do know people complain all the time about how "weak" this & that character is regardless of who the character is and whether or not they've played the character or played with anyone who does. i do hope you are using the block function so you don't have to look at their comments anymore since it is stressing you out and it is not against the rules to have an unpopular opinion.

 

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[Well-met]

4 hours ago, webberer said:

Someone in this forum keeps saying a weak character is strong and unique, they are ignoring the fact that this character is so weak that no one wants play this character. It’s really annoying and stopping others giving ideas and thoughts, which is an unhealthy way to construct this community.

for someone trying to do a call-out you sure seem shy on giving names and context.

[arubaro]

9 hours ago, webberer said:

Someone in this forum keeps saying a weak character is strong and unique, they are ignoring the fact that this character is so weak that no one wants play this character. It’s really annoying and stopping others giving ideas and thoughts, which is an unhealthy way to construct this community.

She is just the top 3 most played character. So sad nobody wants to play her outside of 1/3 of the player base

[Steorra]

12 hours ago, webberer said:

please give evidence

 

If we want more valuable discussion, this is important for every topic.

I think Klei should give warning to those who refuse to give evidence in debate.

And Klei should punish those who always give no evidence but mocking every dissidents - which we call as "trolls".

Evidence is the most important thing in debate, and mocking without evidence is pure malice which are completely meaningless - it is more worse than pure complaining.

[Peasant]

I imagine low picking rate often means a character is either weak, or ugly. I myself wont mind if its ugly as long as it's strong.

[Echsrick]

2 hours ago, YXukun said:

I imagine low picking rate often means a character is either weak, or ugly. I myself wont mind if its ugly as long as it's strong.

i think wendy is ugly so that cant be it for the player base

walter? people seem to just dislike walter

wortox first of all is a character that is locked with money or spools so that of course may just make it lower then most...or maybe they dont like the furry lookin character

[Peasant]

1 minute ago, Echsrick said:

i think wendy is ugly so that cant be it for the player base

walter? people seem to just dislike walter

wortox first of all is a character that is locked with money or spools so that of course may just make it lower then most...or maybe they dont like the furry lookin character

Well most think that wendy is rather pretty, or cute. Newbies I seen simply plays her for her appearance though they cause abigail dies in each battle. They dont even use war saddle for battle cows even after I told them...

Walter is simply weak...and maybe a little ugly?

Wortox indeed costs money thus leading to a lower pick rate. Still I believe that pick rate means something, at least shows the trend over people's choice over characters. Whatever caused this trend though could require more investigating.

Another question comes to me, if a character costs money, should it be naturally stronger that those who dont?

[somethin]

7 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

wortox first of all is a character that is locked with money or spools so that of course may just make it lower then most...or maybe they dont like the furry lookin character

Personally I find him deceptively annoying to play. Sure, teleporting on demand is neat and all but half sanity gain from food, not able to hire pigs/bunnymen for cheap labor and wasting souls on misclick is just feelsbadman. I also heard that teleporting on consoles is basically unusable probably doesn't help his pick rate.

[Just Ragnar]

I think Warly deserves to be a more appealing character, which would both be fun for Warly mains and help newbies learn crock pot recipes and different food sources if they play as him with actual interest to do so.

[Cats_On_Fire]

8 hours ago, Just Ragnar said:

I think Warly deserves to be a more appealing character, which would both be fun for Warly mains and help newbies learn crock pot recipes and different food sources if they play as him with actual interest to do so.

Yeah... But I also quite like his current downside which is very unintuitive for most people. Who are used to just slamming meatballs or pierogis for healing

[Just Ragnar]

39 minutes ago, Cats_On_Fire said:

Yeah... But I also quite like his current downside which is very unintuitive for most people. Who are used to just slamming meatballs or pierogis for healing

If they remove his downside I am going to be very upset. If they encourage varied meals properly and not just with "ooh you get more stats!!! you definetively cant get that by just spamming more food!", like by adding special effects to more exclusive dishes, that would be great.