leo920101 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 If Wortox chooses to be nice, should pigmen remain neutral from him? If he's been naughty, should there be something Wortox can do together with Krampus? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161159-little-thoughts-about-wortox-being-nice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 I don't think that he should ever be neutral to mobs that already target him. I think people forget that to obtain souls he has to KILL something or be around death. Knowing this it kinda justifies the hostility canonically out of safety if the creatures in the constant are aware of what he is. For naughty: Maybe a 10% increase to Krampus Sack drops? Idk I think a critical hit kind of multiplier would be interesting at the cost of additional souls too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161159-little-thoughts-about-wortox-being-nice/#findComment-1761001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGASCRUFF Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 Personally, I'd rather just see their aggro range reduced a bit. They can see you from pretty far away, and this would help with making them much less of a nuisance. I don't think we should be able to befriend them, though. (Even though his inspect quote for Hollow Stumps makes me sad.) I do think Naughty needs a more useful counterpart though, because I think the Nice bonuses are more useful in practice, especially in late-game when food supply doesn't matter much. I want something more universally useful and not designed for flavor alone, but the only thematic counterparts I can think of would be to increase naughtiness gain, or increase damage to mobs that give you naughtiness when you kill them. Neither are really very good, and I'd like to see Nice and Naughty on their own be pretty equally appealing. I dunno. I suggested it in another thread, but a small damage decrease/increase respectively for a short time after eating a Soul could be nice, even if it's 5-10%, or a short duration that can only be used as an opener or during downtime during boss fights. Inclination is weird, since you can't proactively choose them. I feel like the effects should be mild (more than currently, even, on healing and eating and sanity impact), in favor of a bit more variety instead. I think they're a great opportunity for some flavor instead of majorly impactful gameplay changes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161159-little-thoughts-about-wortox-being-nice/#findComment-1761010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul7k Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 it would be nice to be able to use pig king, but I dig the idea of giving souls to Krampus to have an alt version of the pig king/ merm king Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161159-little-thoughts-about-wortox-being-nice/#findComment-1761121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 3 hours ago, OMEGASCRUFF said: Personally, I'd rather just see their aggro range reduced a bit. They can see you from pretty far away, and this would help with making them much less of a nuisance. I don't think we should be able to befriend them, though. (Even though his inspect quote for Hollow Stumps makes me sad.) I do think Naughty needs a more useful counterpart though, because I think the Nice bonuses are more useful in practice, especially in late-game when food supply doesn't matter much. I want something more universally useful and not designed for flavor alone, but the only thematic counterparts I can think of would be to increase naughtiness gain, or increase damage to mobs that give you naughtiness when you kill them. Neither are really very good, and I'd like to see Nice and Naughty on their own be pretty equally appealing. I dunno. I suggested it in another thread, but a small damage decrease/increase respectively for a short time after eating a Soul could be nice, even if it's 5-10%, or a short duration that can only be used as an opener or during downtime during boss fights. Inclination is weird, since you can't proactively choose them. I feel like the effects should be mild (more than currently, even, on healing and eating and sanity impact), in favor of a bit more variety instead. I think they're a great opportunity for some flavor instead of majorly impactful gameplay changes. What if the souls are not attracted to Wortox while he is nice, but wander around on their own and possible damage things or buff anyone who walks over them? While naughty he steals them and they flow to him, while nice they remain on the ground and do other...things...? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161159-little-thoughts-about-wortox-being-nice/#findComment-1761125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkShark Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 6 minutes ago, Soul7k said: it would be nice to be able to use pig king, but I dig the idea of giving souls to Krampus to have an alt version of the pig king/ merm king Oh dw Wortox can already use pig king. Just not pigs themselves. Only Wurt has the issue with pig king. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161159-little-thoughts-about-wortox-being-nice/#findComment-1761127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 Yeah I use Pig King with Webber all the time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161159-little-thoughts-about-wortox-being-nice/#findComment-1761129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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