Dingle Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 It would be great if Wortox could soul hop and map soul hop on a beefalo. You can already teleport on a beef if you have a Lazy Explorer, so it seems odd that Wortox teleports don't work. Would be nice if things like the decoy and runspeed in soul echo worked on a beefalo, too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 52 minutes ago, Dingle said: It would be great if Wortox could soul hop and map soul hop on a beefalo. You can already teleport on a beef if you have a Lazy Explorer, so it seems odd that Wortox teleports don't work. Would be nice if things like the decoy and runspeed in soul echo worked on a beefalo, too. I thought he could, weird that it isn't a mechanic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1759021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted November 22, 2024 Author Share Posted November 22, 2024 26 minutes ago, Reiko24 said: I thought he could, weird that it isn't a mechanic. Nope, never could. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1759042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 Please allow soul hops on Beefalo.. it’s one of the few perks I expected Wortox would be getting Guaranteed at some point, it’s sad to see that this wasn’t anywhere in his skill tree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmAFurrz Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 ngl with the current state of the skill tree, only time you'd want this is to move statues with beefalo cuz wortox's mobility is so good now Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demigardenerner Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Please allow soul hops on Beefalo.. it’s one of the few perks I expected Wortox would be getting Guaranteed at some point, it’s sad to see that this wasn’t anywhere in his skill tree. I’m confused on why this is such as wanted skill? If you have a beef bound to a bell it will teleport with you and with his soul echo speed boosts and just plan teleportation I don’t see much use for a beefalo in general other then mindless killing spiders for souls.so could you explain why you want this skill? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 yes please, i'd put it on the nice side of the skill tree since it deals with friendship and allat. would love to see it implemented Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 1 minute ago, Demigardenerner said: I’m confused on why this is such as wanted skill? If you have a beef bound to a bell it will teleport with you and with his soul echo speed boosts and just plan teleportation I don’t see much use for a beefalo in general other then mindless killing spiders for souls.so could you explain why you want this skill? Have you ever tried to complete any of the late game Moon Alter Quests? Dragging around the sanctum pieces at a painfully slow walking pace is utterly boring… you will use a Beefalo for this part of the game, and being able to soul hop it across water gaps will save time. Additionally… if a player who isn’t very skilled as Wortox wants to instead rely on the safety net that is a 1000hp battle mount, they could probably teleport around on their FurCow during a boss fight? Even though this particular function is only effective on PC and sucks for console players, I understand that teleport combat is a core part of how people on PC play as him? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted November 27, 2024 Author Share Posted November 27, 2024 31 minutes ago, Demigardenerner said: I’m confused on why this is such as wanted skill? If you have a beef bound to a bell it will teleport with you and with his soul echo speed boosts and just plan teleportation I don’t see much use for a beefalo in general other then mindless killing spiders for souls.so could you explain why you want this skill? Beefalo are still great for him, especially early game. It takes a lot of pressure off collecting souls, so you can do other things. Also great for areas where there aren't a lot of souls to top you up. Late game I still like it, for MAXIMUM SPEED. Dismounting and remounting every single time you want to teleport gets annoying. Also, Beefalo can take awhile to catch up to you, which adds even more time to this. It would be a lot smoother if you could just stay on the beefalo. And finally: Why not? You can already use a Lazy Explorer on top of a beefalo. Why is Wortox specifically prevented from teleporting on a beefalo? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 On 11/22/2024 at 5:36 PM, Dingle said: It would be great if Wortox could soul hop and map soul hop on a beefalo. You can already teleport on a beef if you have a Lazy Explorer, so it seems odd that Wortox teleports don't work. Would be nice if things like the decoy and runspeed in soul echo worked on a beefalo, too. Too strong. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 56 minutes ago, Demigardenerner said: I’m confused on why this is such as wanted skill? If you have a beef bound to a bell it will teleport with you and with his soul echo speed boosts and just plan teleportation I don’t see much use for a beefalo in general other then mindless killing spiders for souls.so could you explain why you want this skill? It would open the possibility to soul kite using the beefalo, not just against small creatures but also bosses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 5 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: It would open the possibility to soul kite using the beefalo, not just against small creatures but also bosses soul dodging isn't going to be useful for any thing except enraged dfly and 1st dfly hit when on a beefalo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted November 27, 2024 Author Share Posted November 27, 2024 12 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Too strong. Do you think it would elevate him to "unbelievably, game breakingly strong" levels like Wendy is right now? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 Just now, Dingle said: Do you think it would elevate him to "unbelievably, game breakingly strong" levels like Wendy is right now? It doesnt need to be unbelievable game breaking, it just seems too strong. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted November 27, 2024 Author Share Posted November 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: It doesnt need to be unbelievable game breaking, it just seems too strong. The teleport itself, or the soul echo or runspeed boost? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 28 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: It would open the possibility to soul kite using the beefalo, not just against small creatures but also bosses. Only for PC where they have aimed soul hops but other than that I guess yeah? Lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 25 minutes ago, grm9 said: soul dodging isn't going to be useful for any thing except enraged dfly and 1st dfly hit when on a beefalo That's considering the old Wortox, current wortox holds a nearly unlimited amount of souls, can weaponize souls, has a decoy that also adds damage, etc. Beefalos are also decently effective against planar enemies now as well. It all synergizes and would create a whole new path throughout most of the game for a skilled Wortox player. 5 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Only for PC where they have aimed soul hops but other than that I guess yeah? Lol. Well yeah, I'll give you that, but that's a problem of Wortox's poor control adaptation for console, not the character itself. It can probably be fixed though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 On 11/27/2024 at 9:44 AM, ShadowDuelist said: It would open the possibility to soul kite using the beefalo, not just against small creatures but also bosses. What would the beefalo be contributing here? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1763998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 12 minutes ago, Bumber64 said: What would the beefalo be contributing here? Beefalo are 1000 hp self health regenerating Walking Cane+Armor+Weapon, all disguised as a smelly FurCow. They have their uses… it’s just a lot of people refuse to tame them or dislike them or whatever and then those same people who will not put in the effort and time to tame one up themselves are the same ones asking for any sort of character synergies while riding a Beefalo to be Nerfed. I on the other hand… think that a creature that requires a 24 in game day commitment to tame should be the exact opposite, it should have MORE Unique Synergies with MORE characters… They also have cute skins that let you customize the head, horns, body, feet & tail too.. I would love a “Beefalo Update” one that focused entirely on giving each of the cast of playable characters their own unique things they can do with them. Example: There’s a cut animation of Wolfgang Deadlifting Beefalo as a portable mighty gym, lets bring that back… and let’s also let him while mounted atop the Beefalo, to Yeet his dumbells at foes. Wortox is deserving of Beefalo Soul Hop (bonus points if the Beefalo temporarily turns a shade of Red before and after the hop) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1764000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Beefalo are 1000 hp self health regenerating Walking Cane+Armor+Weapon, all disguised as a smelly FurCow. Only the weapon part is relevant if you're soul hopping to avoid boss attacks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1764001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted November 28, 2024 Author Share Posted November 28, 2024 The meat shield I guess? You're not going to want to fight a boss on a beefalo as Wortox. Especially with the new affinities. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1764006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 32 minutes ago, Bumber64 said: What would the beefalo be contributing here? It's convenient, if you aim for ornery or default you don't use up weapon or armor durability, in-between teleports you have the perma-speed, and even if you are going for a rider or pudgy its far safer to teleport already on top of the beefalo than carrying it as a follower, since it can be aggroed by stuff while it is trying to catch up with you and be killed by shenanigans. Specially while you are still exploring the world. In the early-mid game it would help a lot of things. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1764009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 11 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: It's convenient, if you aim for ornery or default you don't use up weapon or armor durability, in-between teleports you have the perma-speed, and even if you are going for a rider or pudgy its far safer to teleport already on top of the beefalo than carrying it as a follower, since it can be aggroed by stuff while it is trying to catch up with you and be killed by shenanigans. Specially while you are still exploring the world. In the early-mid game it would help a lot of things. That reminds me, Wortox struggles with staying sane (for newbies) and a pudgy Beefalo passively provides free sanity while you ride your floofy mount. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1764015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 On 11/22/2024 at 2:36 PM, Dingle said: It would be great if Wortox could soul hop and map soul hop on a beefalo. You can already teleport on a beef if you have a Lazy Explorer, so it seems odd that Wortox teleports don't work. Would be nice if things like the decoy and runspeed in soul echo worked on a beefalo, too. This would be nice but I rather see him being able to Soul Hop carrying heavy objects so he can drop the need of a Beefalo at all, u know? The char has a vibe of freedom from those stuff that I would love to see he not needing a beef to complete the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1764018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted November 28, 2024 Author Share Posted November 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said: This would be nice but I rather see him being able to Soul Hop carrying heavy objects so he can drop the need of a Beefalo at all, u know? The char has a vibe of freedom from those stuff that I would love to see he not needing a beef to complete the game. I'd like both. I still like a Rider as Wortox. Mostly because speedy/transport/teleport characters are my favorite archetype. Also because it's stylish. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160928-wortox-cant-soul-hop-on-a-beefalo/#findComment-1764020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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