lv746591263 Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 Updated messy skills, neither life experience enhancement, nor combat experience enhancement, all inexplicable skills, really is not playing the game to take it for granted? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 What does this even mean?; Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 ok, now explain the problems and please stop yapping just for the sake of it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodoho Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 6 minutes ago, Sacco said: ok, now explain the problems and please stop yapping just for the sake of it. 1.Abi is delicate facing the new bosses, the pedal armor increases the Vulnerabaition ofAbi. 2.no increases for the effects of Elixirs. Time increasing don't meet the needs of battles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmonkey Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 As a wendy main, I hate how some of you just complain without really explaining and give a good criticism. What y'all want? Abigail become so op and do all the combat? Wendy can talk to a ghost? Have a ghost army? What do y'all want? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 46 minutes ago, lostmonkey said: As a wendy main, I hate how some of you just complain without really explaining and give a good criticism. What y'all want? Abigail become so op and do all the combat? Wendy can talk to a ghost? Have a ghost army? What do y'all want? Cohesion between her “Kit” and some fun out of combat perks that are useful in other non-boss fight related areas of gameplay..? Here are a few examples: The new skill tree will be adding a perk for Wendy to turn Dark flowers and purify those into normal flowers. That sounds so highly pointless, that I’m legit concerned Klei doesn’t care to make playing her more interesting because they quote “see her as strong as is” I feel the need to remind them that Wolfgang was also already strong as he was, but that did not stop them from giving him fun out of combat perks like rowing boats faster, pulling up anchors and masts faster or having a chance to instantly mine while doing labor. Heres the problem with “Purifying” of all things Dark Petals- One of Wendy’s new Gravestone items in the skill tree will passively produce them, that’s actually GREAT because Dark Petals are otherwise rare resources, However… To get normal flowers, was as simple as taking a Bug net and capturing Butterflies then planting them back into the ground and as a #WendyMain… It’s no secret that Wendy of all characters had no trouble mass farming silk to create Bug Nets. I guess Klei’s intent behind this perk is to allow Wendy to passively collect both dark flowers and convert them to normal ones? But it strips some of the core gameplay loop you would’ve otherwise had to pick up and learn whilst maining Wendy- Aka how to Mass farm silk for bug nets, and beekeeper hats so you could set up butterfly and bee farms to obtain normal flower automation. It would’ve actually made MORE Sense (& be more useful) for Wendy to had been able to transform normal flowers into dark ones by commanding Abby to haunt them or something. My next issue with the Wendy Skill Tree is the “Escape” perk, unless they’ve removed or reworked the Dismiss prompt- Having this skill makes absolutely no sense because Dismiss does exactly what this waste of an insight point is meant to do. It would’ve been way more useful if escape was actually changed to something like “Ambush” Abby disappears into the ground to sneak up and surprise attack mobs that otherwise would’ve ran or flew away from her. Lastly: WHY can Wendy craft extra Abigail flowers at all??? Where does this play into her Core Gameplay loop at any point of the game???? In the Original DS I can understand needing extra Abigail flowers because each flower had its own “charge” on when Abby could be summoned from it. And the flower fell to the ground at whatever location Abigail died at which wouldn’t always be safe for Wendy to attempt to retrieve and thus crafting a new flower would be more viable In DST however….ever since her rework the flower now never leaves your inventory at all except in a few strange niche situations such as when a frog lacks you dropping it out your inventory. Crafting Additional Abigail Flowers now has no gameplay purposes beyond maybe PVP where players can steal them away from you. I was hoping her skill tree would had given crafting them at all an extra purpose.. Such as: Bringing back the Cooldown per Flower. What I Want: The one character who permanently has a ghost following her around at all times to be able to perform all the interactions that a dead human controlled players ghost can do without needing an actual human player to be dead. This would mean, Adding a “Haunt”command to Abigail, amongst other things.. Just in general: Things that make Wendy useful and fun outside of AoE crowd control. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 2 hours ago, lostmonkey said: As a wendy main, I hate how some of you just complain without really explaining and give a good criticism. What y'all want? Abigail become so op and do all the combat? Wendy can talk to a ghost? Have a ghost army? What do y'all want? They don't know what they want, because they don't want anything. They just want to complain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 43 minutes ago, Cheggf said: They don't know what they want, because they don't want anything. They just want to complain. Just another day in the forums. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyinging Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 3 hours ago, lostmonkey said: As a wendy main, I hate how some of you just complain without really explaining and give a good criticism. What y'all want? Abigail become so op and do all the combat? Wendy can talk to a ghost? Have a ghost army? What do y'all want? Don't you think the skill of synthesizing flower petals is rather silly? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1758991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lv746591263 Posted November 22, 2024 Author Share Posted November 22, 2024 4 hours ago, Cheggf said: They don't know what they want, because they don't want anything. They just want to complain. If I'm the only one complaining, well, it's my problem, but why are millions complaining? Is there really no problem? Please use your brain to think carefully 4 hours ago, Cheggf said: They don't know what they want, because they don't want anything. They just want to complain. What do we want? Are we designers? We have to know what we want in order to criticize whether the skill tree you give us is reasonable. Like, do we have to be a chef to criticize your food? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1759154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 9 minutes ago, lv746591263 said: If I'm the only one complaining, well, it's my problem, but why are millions complaining? Is there really no problem? Please use your brain to think carefully What do we want? Are we designers? We have to know what we want in order to criticize whether the skill tree you give us is reasonable. Like, do we have to be a chef to criticize your food? DST fixin' to finna dethrone Fortnite if millions of people are complaining about a skill tree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1759164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted November 22, 2024 Share Posted November 22, 2024 1 minute ago, Cheggf said: DST fixin' to finna dethrone Fortnite if millions of people are complaining about a skill tree. They need to start releasing more controversial updates to get media attention. They should add shrek to the game without permission as a publicity stunt. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160858-you-know-to-be-honest-you-wouldnt-get-this-much-crap-if-you-hadnt-updated-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1759165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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