Ancient Fuelweaver isn't the cane barer or the torch wielder theory

[Frosty_Mentos]

I keep growing doubts on why would either of them be seeded into that demonic creature, considering that it doesn't seem to make sense.

Let me explain: The fossils were found by the ancients themselves. We don't have evidence to why they would ever need that or do that unless it is to summon fuelweaver himself.

Assume cane bearer is the king and torch one is the queen as charlie has her shadow and metheus takes 'heed' and gives us skins for doing the puzzle while shadow torch is given from cyclum puzzle - there's clear evidence who is who. Where's metheus tho you ask? Probably just dead, or could be that Maxwell's book is literally Metheus himself (gender not apply, unless wanting to put own personal canons for whatever queen or king meant in their civilization).

Now think about it. Why do ancients ever dig bones for anything? Would be better assumption to say that they've dug them up with specific purposes. For the atrium is that Charlie given us hints and sketches on how to make statues ourselves to summon the shadow chess. Likely this knowledge was passed to her to put survivors to work and get them a job to be done while ancients had their some way to make those summoning stones to summon those entities.

If shadows didn't predate the civilization, why were fossils dug up? Ancient gateway could be believed it has been existing before them, stumbled upon by ancients with new knowledge and power that could be harnessed from them.

Fuelweaver is but a shadow that predated crustacian ancients, from era where technology was established to make the gateway or trap themselves into a cycle like how ancients did but dying off instead of losing skin and becoming shadows.

There's still a mystery about the gateway itself and who exactly built it since we don't have anymore archeological evidence or murals to find anything what existed during or even much before ancients, unless Hamlet Iron hulk is something to consider. I dunno, aliens, I guess.

Just to note, that fuelweaver being from another civilization is a big assumption as well as an idea I have that they're some kind of aliens that came from time before or some other world to bring shadow technology into Constant. There is no real consistency with the things there which one was more modern and less, cause we got a whole f******g archive that looks pristine and has those super tech magic centipede creatures that are powered by moon energy, or whatever.

To get back on track is that Fuelweaver getting the shadow heart is kinda weird to assume that it's cyclum, since neither of the entities but cyclum likely appears in the recent halloween short appearing for charlie telling her something. It can't be metheus as we don't really know what else could have happened to him, but most evidence we have is the big M on Codex Umbra Maxwell has and the cane we get from the ancient chest for doing the puzzle.

Fuelweaver mentions Metheus, but it's likely more that he known him in some way before their downfall. Metheus likely is simply dead and has documented everything about shadows in that book Maxwell has. How it ended up in Earth is unknown. It could also be that book is simply cursed in some way, appearing in Earth to infect the planet with shadows as well or as a way to commune with a planet with living intelligent enough beings to figure it out.

Magic exists on Earth it seems, considering Wicker's short about her having whole secret society thing in the basement existing in the library that burnt down. If shadows exist they also exist in other worlds in some form or another to find connection and bridge more worlds to consume. Metheus may simply became the cause of this, or some time shenanigans happened and Maxwell is forever bound to find the book for the cycle to repeat and for Constant to warp and change since that is canon to the story.

Everything broke once shadows spilled and ancients lost control, fuelweaver is traumatized and wants all of this to stop. Cyclum probably assumably preserved it's heart in shadows as a curse of sorts through the three shadow chess fight that the chess reference their rule over robots and pawns being ancients thus fuelweaver is something of a chess piece in this metaphor, or whatever, and cyclum is corrupt and wants Charlie for shadows to take over and fight the moon or is trying to revive her civilization in some way or another, bringing their minds back from being just mere nightmares.

The future of the plot is left to be for speculations, but this is probably as best put how things went and where things might be going as well as to answer where fuelweaver even came from.

Crediting video that inspired me to think about this theory with some backing ideas from the vid:

If Klei's lore to make any sense at all about this game, we know that this is just how it is.

Also, I dunno if anyone noticed but atrium statues has one risen hands showing frustration gritting it's teeth while other showing them yelling from the nightmare they are experiencing. Also, makes me wonder who built all those. Maybe it's the king spending his last days to warn anyone coming down here with all the remaining memories of what there's used to be? Like a museum that we come to smash and destroy cause wow shiny things.

[Reiko24]

"Secret message in the Axiom Visus video ("METHEUS IS HERE") hints that Charlie's evil half is Metheus. And in the same video Charlie uses Tragic Torch."

 

Metheus, "Prometheus", Prometheus stole fire, Torch, Metheus. Charlie uses the Torch, Metheus told her where to get it. 

[Szczuku]

Oh, goodie, another Ytuber claims they've figured out the Ancient's lore. I'm sure this won't lead to even more delusion among the dst community and people fighting over who is Metheus and whether or not Cyclum is a character

[Frosty_Mentos]

1 hour ago, Reiko24 said:

"Secret message in the Axiom Visus video ("METHEUS IS HERE") hints that Charlie's evil half is Metheus. And in the same video Charlie uses Tragic Torch."

 

Metheus, "Prometheus", Prometheus stole fire, Torch, Metheus. Charlie uses the Torch, Metheus told her where to get it. 

Still doesn't deny my theory about fuelweaver and whoever they are. At least we don't have too much evidence to claim that Fuelweaver is Cyclum either or whatever the name is supposed to be for the cane bearer.

[Anis5240]

33 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

Cyclum

How many times do I have to say this, bruh.

Cyclum is Latin for "cycle", and the whole comic talked how Maxwell too had fallen into the same thing he had inflicted onto the other survivors he had dragged into the Constant; trapped in the cycle of gathering and living to survive another day. Cyclum was never a name whatsoever. God.

[Mr Giggio]

Its about time for us to know the real deal  eh xD this is getting old

[BiddoBams]

oh my god me jumpscare 

[Frosty_Mentos]

2 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

How many times do I have to say this, bruh.

exactly 37 more times

[Maxposting]

Gotta love when important lore is incorrectly refuted every month because of the lack of clarity and current direction heading in an unideal way.

[marshyds]

ancient fuelweaver just being some random caveman named grug instead of one of the important characters would be narratively unsatisfying though, wouldn't it?

[Dragonboooorn]

You guys actually think DST have some actual, consistent story/lore? I stopped caring for story when they introduced Wortox and Wanda, lol. The red furry added terraria content for lolz, and Wanda is a time/AU traveler. nuff said