Cruvimaster Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 Second Chance Watch was planned to have a cooldown and not to be destroyed. The original design makes perfect sense due to Wanda's own concept, the character "who cannot be taken by death" and does not leave a skeleton. Second Chance Watch is currently a useless item for Wanda herself, as it is much more convenient to use Life Giving Amulet (an item always won by Klaus). Furthermore, what was planned for Wanda is being used on Beefalo and is being praised by many, showing the correctness of this cooldown concept. Please reconsider bringing back the original design of Second Chance Watch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 Honestly seeing Winona's fragile roses, maybe it would be fine. I think it would need higher cooldown when used by Wanda herself though. Personally, I tend to use the 2nd chance over lga as Wanda, at least in early/mid game, due to needing the red gems for ageless watches(plus 2nd chance is handy to have on you if you play with at least one other person, I know it's not the point, but still) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 Maybe it will be added when Wanda gets a skill tree. Have hope. Although it does seem a little... Overpowered? This means you literally cannot die, unless you die in quick succession. If the cooldown was like 10-20 days, alright. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 27 minutes ago, Reiko24 said: Maybe it will be added when Wanda gets a skill tree. Have hope. Although it does seem a little... Overpowered? This means you literally cannot die, unless you die in quick succession. If the cooldown was like 10-20 days, alright. That's waaaaaaaaaay too long. Takes less time to get a life giving amulet and there's no shortage of good revival options in the game overall. Better to have same cooldown and just not break. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Frosty_Mentos said: That's waaaaaaaaaay too long. Takes less time to get a life giving amulet and there's no shortage of good revival options in the game overall. Better to have same cooldown and just not break. Yeah, takes less time to get a LGA, but you need resources for it every time you want to revive. If you craft a Second Chance Watch in this state, you will have it forever, and can always use it. The cooldown needs to be long for it to not just make the game's death mechanic nonexistent. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 I think there’s quite a few people who probably need to Google the term “Glass Canon” because what your asking for with this suggestion unless it has a super long cooldown time, turns Wanda into ANYTHING but a Glass Canon. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Reiko24 said: Yeah, takes less time to get a LGA, but you need resources for it every time you want to revive. If you craft a Second Chance Watch in this state, you will have it forever, and can always use it. The cooldown needs to be long for it to not just make the game's death mechanic nonexistent. But that's Wanda's exclusive stuff. Noone else but her can do it, so it makes sense she should have it sorta easier. Also, later game it's too annoying to farm bones and living logs for the watch just to revive herself. Better at that point having amulets most of the time. Not to mention the risk of reviving in same spot of dying with the watch, unlike amulet it doesn't put mobs to sleep so there's much less worth to the item. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaik Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said: I think there’s quite a few people who probably need to Google the term “Glass Canon” because what your asking for with this suggestion unless it has a super long cooldown time, turns Wanda into ANYTHING but a Glass Canon. Wanda is only a glass cannon if you play her in old age Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 I don't agree with you. Second chance watch is fine. It costs a living log and a couple of bone shards if you decide to haunt it. That is very cheap. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Kwaik said: Wanda is only a glass cannon if you play her in old age wanda isn't a glass cannon because she can tank even when old and healing's passive and free excluding the 1 time investment Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted September 18, 2024 Share Posted September 18, 2024 yea sure, make a character immortal, it's not great game design. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159815-please-return-original-second-chance-watch/#findComment-1749243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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