WM2MIL Posted September 5, 2024 Share Posted September 5, 2024 Hello, so lets talk about boat fire pumps and how or why they aren't used (if you use them let me know why) and some improvements I would love to see to it to expand its usages and functionality. So, the primary reason I see them not getting any usages is because they really aren't needed when you can just get a luxury fan or a watering can. Also its just another structure in a crammed boat. As for its functionality if you have a active fire in the boat it will actively target it if you don't it will shoot water splashes randomly, if a water splash lands on farm soil it will actually water it for a little bit (its salt water but lets ignore that), my first suggestion is to let us aim it in a circle around it. It could possibly be a replacement for watering cans for farms near the coast. If you think this might be a bit OP during winter I would say that if you water the farm at the start of winter it will pretty much stay irrigated the whole season already. The next suggestion is if the water splash lands on you or a enemy to actually make them wet, like a water balloon, not only we would have more options (albeit still niche) to to get the extra damage from electric damage it would also help a lot Wurt players with the amphibian skills. My last suggestion is when placing it on a dock to actually allow the pump to access the water. If it can access through a boat I don't see why it can't through a dock. If you dear reader also have other ideas for the fire pump, by all means I encourage to post them. My reason to make this post was purely because I don't like to see content in games that barely get any usage be forgotten, I enjoy when said items have some interesting interactions if you experiment with them. PS: I just noticed there is a actual suggestions section in the forums, however I don't see a option to delete this post, first time poster. So I'm hoping the mods could somehow move this to there if possible, since I think it could be seen as spam if I posted this there too while this one is still up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovens Posted September 5, 2024 Share Posted September 5, 2024 The worst thing about fire pumps (and the reason why I stopped using them) is that they fail to do their job if your boat is moving. Their splashes simply miss the fire! Imagine your anchor is burning, and the boat has sails up. You can't interact with the anchor to stop the boat and you can't extinguish the fire because the pump keeps missing. Also it needs to be actively operated meaning you can't do anything else on the boat while you are busy with the pump. It gets heavily outclassed by ice flingo, watering cans, luxury fans and even freely roaming spittlefish near your boat (haven't seen them miss my firepit even once!). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/#findComment-1745917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 12 hours ago, WM2MIL said: The next suggestion is if the water splash lands on you or a enemy to actually make them wet, like a water balloon, not only we would have more options (albeit still niche) to to get the extra damage from electric damage it would also help a lot Wurt players with the amphibian skills. A way to reliably make enemies wet, you say? I like it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/#findComment-1745964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethin Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 I think just make it so that the fire pump to work like sprinklers in hamlet. Make it create an area of constant wetness around it when you continuously pumping and instantly snuff out fire is honestly the only fix it need. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/#findComment-1745990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 13 hours ago, WM2MIL said: So, the primary reason I see them not getting any usages is because they really aren't needed when you can just get a luxury fan or a watering can. The problem isn't that they "aren't needed" because you have those other options, the problem is those other options are better. Disregarding price, the watering can & thermantidote work properly regardless of the ship's speed and are always available. The fire pump not only fails to work if the ship is moving too quickly, but can catch on fire. It can even be the first thing to catch on fire, making it entirely irrelevant and pointless. If the fire pump were simply made to be good at what it's supposed to do, I would use it over the other options. Something like it having a wide spray graphic instead of the weird blobs, and it immediately soaks itself, the boat, and everything on the boat so that any fires are put out and the items are too damp to be set on fire for the next like 5 minutes or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/#findComment-1745993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 21 minutes ago, Cheggf said: Something like it having a wide spray graphic instead of the weird blobs, and it immediately soaks itself, the boat, and everything on the boat so that any fires are put out and the items are too damp to be set on fire for the next like 5 minutes or something. Honestly, hard agree Just let it be a 360° area of effect that puts out fires and be done with it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/#findComment-1745999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 I don’t understand why the boat pump has to be its own structure, your boats have limited space to place things as is so it should had just been a Mast upgrade like the Lightning Conductor and Deck Illuminator. bonus points: If it rained down like a shower head it could even be placed on dry land to probably help with watering Gardens. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/#findComment-1746006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 If followers can use it, thats cool. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159505-boat-fire-pump-improvement-suggestion/#findComment-1746096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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