Dr.Webber Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 Like there’s no extra light every thing about you is still dark Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 huh? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 have you seen the darkness attack animation? what i want to know is why she is ok with you being in the dark when you sleep, no night vission, no light, just sleep roll Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 “This must be game logic.” –Maxwell Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 Just now, Echsrick said: have you seen the darkness attack animation? what i want to know is why she is ok with you being in the dark when you sleep, no night vission, no light, just sleep roll She waiting for you to wake up (how nice of her) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, Echsrick said: have you seen the darkness attack animation? what i want to know is why she is ok with you being in the dark when you sleep, no night vission, no light, just sleep roll Interestingly shadow creatures do the same I think they're just well mannered ladies and gents Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 i think it is the same logic as nightmare creatures; if you arent afraid she has no power over you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted August 10, 2024 Author Share Posted August 10, 2024 8 minutes ago, gaymime said: i think it is the same logic as nightmare creatures; if you arent afraid she has no power over you So say Webber got partial night vision because he part spider(he doesn’t currently but hypothetically) would only being able to see silhouettes be enough lack of sight to cause the fear for the attacks to go into effect Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Mysterious box said: “This must be game logic.” –Maxwell Literally my answer to half of DS and most of DST's gameplay :3 1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said: So say Webber got partial night vision because he part spider(he doesn’t currently but hypothetically) would only being able to see silhouettes be enough lack of sight to cause the fear for the attacks to go into effect That depends whether Webber is one of those children that fear the sight of silhouettes. Depending on his age he may still be in that phase where most children fear the darkness and interprete silhouettes as monsters, so I would say, either yes or no, depending on his human side's fears. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 4 hours ago, Dr.Webber said: So say Webber got partial night vision because he part spider(he doesn’t currently but hypothetically) would only being able to see silhouettes be enough lack of sight to cause the fear for the attacks to go into effect in the context of the game? about as much as the flickering half-spectres do i am sure though i lean more towards what npcmaxwell said. webber is still a child even if the spider half is an adult Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted August 10, 2024 Author Share Posted August 10, 2024 32 minutes ago, gaymime said: in the context of the game? about as much as the flickering half-spectres do i am sure though i lean more towards what npcmaxwell said. webber is still a child even if the spider half is an adult What is a flickering half-spectre also what did you mean by that wavy inspection Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 @Dr.Webber considering it's an actually hazardous wilderniss and shadows have shown to turn into actually agression towards the player after a while plus children of that age sometimes still being massively influenced by "magical thinking" and stuff, he may associate the silhouettes with what is often called "monsters under the bed / in the closet" etc. the darkness being extremly scary and a source of nightmares or fear of being in a dark room in general. Now having actually been in a wilderniss in which THOSE THREADS actually exist under certain conditions I am sure just being able to see silhouettes via nightvision would not calm his human little-boy side's fear at all, so Charlie would still be able to sense and bite him. (after all her "bite" animation is a shadow hand thrusting itsself through the character's chest. That sure must be extremly scary to even imagine for a little boy, even if we assume he had been never bitten before and just "saw" others being attacked this way via nightvision [we know what the Charlie bite looks like because woodie can see it when his cursed form has nightvision and other players around him are bitten by her] ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Dr.Webber said: What is a flickering half-spectre also what did you mean by that wavy inspection when you are in the beginning stages of insanity(but are not fully insane) you will see nightmare creatures but they will not be interactable and will be much more transparent than if you were able to interact with them the wavy is because we were talking about "scary" stuff and wavy is a "scary" react. it was thematic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 1 hour ago, NPCMaxwell said: @Dr.Webber considering it's an actually hazardous wilderniss and shadows have shown to turn into actually agression towards the player after a while plus children of that age sometimes still being massively influenced by "magical thinking" and stuff, he may associate the silhouettes with what is often called "monsters under the bed / in the closet" etc. i am a grown man and at 3am in a quiet house i indulge in magical thinking all the way up a dark staircase at double speed x'''D Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted August 10, 2024 Author Share Posted August 10, 2024 2 hours ago, gaymime said: when you are in the beginning stages of insanity(but are not fully insane) you will see nightmare creatures but they will not be interactable and will be much more transparent than if you were able to interact with them the wavy is because we were talking about "scary" stuff and wavy is a "scary" react. it was thematic. You mean mister skits Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 11 hours ago, gaymime said: i think it is the same logic as nightmare creatures; if you arent afraid she has no power over you that's not how that works, walter's sanity doesn't get decreased when in darkness and he isn't immune to darkness attacking him any way, sanity being at some value or decreasing with some speed also doesn't affect darkness immunity Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted August 10, 2024 Author Share Posted August 10, 2024 1 hour ago, gaymime said: i am a grown man and at 3am in a quiet house i indulge in magical thinking all the way up a dark staircase at double speed x'''D Same 6 minutes ago, grm9 said: that's not how that works, walter's sanity doesn't get decreased when in darkness and he isn't immune to darkness attacking him any way So I guess we’re back to square one any ideas Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 2 hours ago, gaymime said: i am a grown man and at 3am in a quiet house i indulge in magical thinking all the way up a dark staircase at double speed x'''D For me this but in a LOUD house in the middle of the day xD 37 minutes ago, grm9 said: that's not how that works, walter's sanity doesn't get decreased when in darkness and he isn't immune to darkness attacking him any way, sanity being at some value or decreasing with some speed also doesn't affect darkness immunity Walter may be an exception? Maybe they also attack those who are too curious? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 10, 2024 Share Posted August 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said: You mean mister skits terrorbeaks and crawling horror. mister skits seems to be neutral as far as i know(though i tend to not let myself go insane so i have limited interaction with nightmares) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted August 10, 2024 Author Share Posted August 10, 2024 21 minutes ago, gaymime said: terrorbeaks and crawling horror. mister skits seems to be neutral as far as i know(though i tend to not let myself go insane so i have limited interaction with nightmares) Oh you mean the the point where they don’t attack yet but you can see them Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 I think you have to be aware of shadow creatures for them to be aware of you. But does the sleep status effect protect you like proper sleeping does? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 2 hours ago, Bumber64 said: I think you have to be aware of shadow creatures for them to be aware of you. But does the sleep status effect protect you like proper sleeping does? ooooh, that is a good question! i would assume if you were targeted they'd just go for you no matter what like a hound but i have never gotten fully insane while having access to a sleep method Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 She's shy uwu Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted August 12, 2024 Author Share Posted August 12, 2024 5 minutes ago, cybers2001 said: She's shy uwu I think she’s just a Cheeky girl Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158959-why-is-it-that-charlie-can%E2%80%99t-attack-you-when-you-can-see-is-the-dark/#findComment-1740306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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