Discussion of rubber/rubber trees in DST before a formal suggestion

[chirsg]

These are rubber trees. They produce beloved rubber. You love rubber. I love rubber. Your parents love rubber. If not for rubber, the human race would have died off 20,000,000 years ago.

With the addition of surprising seeds, a rubber tree taking root could be something that is feasible. 

I'd let it grow on the turf which you craft with grass and petals. Not savannah. The light green one. Not the dark green one, as is displayed on the image above.

 

Rubber trees are tapped for their natural latex, which is later vulcanized into the rubber we know and love. We already have tapping assets in gorge. It definitely fits without being excessively intrusive.

Also, they tend to be quite beautiful trees.

 

So vulcanization could be a process of heating, or without complicating it, simply using raw latex, nitre and rotten eggs, which is relatively consistent with the real life process.

 

With the ocean becoming more prevalent in the game, which many of us are grateful for, rubber and the ocean go together like bread and butter.

Adding an inflatable boat that can also be deflated to fit in your pocket would go a long way. Sensible addition indeed.

Also, a life preserver body slot item would make some sense, being made of rubber.

A body slot item "Running shoes" could be useful as well. 20-30% speedboost, not unlike magiluminescnece but without the light radius. 

 

You can make so many things with rubber. Even... Winona car...

But maybe not.

 

What would you add to the rubber crafts?

[Well-met]

cool ideas but I'd only want this as a third tree from surprising seeds

[chirsg]

24 minutes ago, Well-met said:

cool ideas but I'd only want this as a third tree from surprising seeds

Well, yes. That's what I'm proposing.

[Waoling]

I would love to have either rice or wheat or both before a rubber tree.

[goblinball]

I searched up when rubber was invented because I feel like stuff like running shoes would be too modern for dst, only to find out rubber was invented in 1600 BC… 

[Evelo]

1 hour ago, chirsg said:

If not for rubber, the human race would have died off 20,000,000 years ago.

That is so inaccurate it hurts. The Homo Sapiens have only been around for 300,000 years. Meanwhile the oldest known use of rubber was 3,600 years ago. (1600 BCE roughly). Anyway, the introduction of rubber could be interesting in future Wagstaff crafts, though specifically non lunar based crafts. Because of it's electrical insulating properties. As for other uses, I suppose it could be used at flotation devices but eeehhh I feel that would be like the many other items that exist but never see use like the Cat Cap and the like.

[Evelo]

3 minutes ago, goblinball said:

I searched up when rubber was invented because I feel like stuff like running shoes would be too modern for dst, only to find out rubber was invented in 1600 BC… 

Well it was discovered and roughly used in 1600 BCE, then later used as a material for containers, however modern uses of it started in roughly the 1700s (which is still well before DST time).

[chirsg]

4 hours ago, Evelo said:

That is so inaccurate it hurts. The Homo Sapiens have only been around for 300,000 years. Meanwhile the oldest known use of rubber was 3,600 years ago. (1600 BCE roughly). Anyway, the introduction of rubber could be interesting in future Wagstaff crafts, though specifically non lunar based crafts. Because of it's electrical insulating properties. As for other uses, I suppose it could be used at flotation devices but eeehhh I feel that would be like the many other items that exist but never see use like the Cat Cap and the like.

perhaps the rubber tree contributed to the ecosystem, so much so, that if not for it's role in nature, our ancestors perhaps would have perished without it's ecological role. There's a greater chance I'm right than I am wrong.

4 hours ago, goblinball said:

I searched up when rubber was invented because I feel like stuff like running shoes would be too modern for dst, only to find out rubber was invented in 1600 BC… 

 

4 hours ago, Evelo said:

Well it was discovered and roughly used in 1600 BCE, then later used as a material for containers, however modern uses of it started in roughly the 1700s (which is still well before DST time).

I researched it before I made the post. Goodyear tyres started vulcanizing rubber in the 1800's. Inflatable boats were made around that time as well. 

It's definitely something that  could be added and even seen by other survivors before they were marooned in the constant. Wickerbottom has probably read about it in her time, as she used to work at the historical equivalent of wikipedia.

[Maxposting]

37 minutes ago, chirsg said:

perhaps the rubber tree contributed to the ecosystem, so much so, that if not for it's role in nature, our ancestors perhaps would have perished without it's ecological role. There's a greater chance I'm right than I am wrong.

Could you explain your reasoning behind this?

I'm not saying rubber is useless but humans wouldn't just die out if rubber wouldn't exist.

[chirsg]

11 minutes ago, Maxposting said:

Could you explain your reasoning behind this?

I'm not saying rubber is useless but humans wouldn't just die out if rubber wouldn't exist.

Hyperbole

[abrocator]

5 hours ago, Evelo said:

That is so inaccurate it hurts. The Homo Sapiens have only been around for 300,000 years. Meanwhile the oldest known use of rubber was 3,600 years ago. (1600 BCE roughly). Anyway, the introduction of rubber could be interesting in future Wagstaff crafts, though specifically non lunar based crafts. Because of it's electrical insulating properties. As for other uses, I suppose it could be used at flotation devices but eeehhh I feel that would be like the many other items that exist but never see use like the Cat Cap and the like.

This is just the chirsg style. He’s been writing like this for five thousands years (get with the program already).

[Jakepeng99]

11 hours ago, Well-met said:

cool ideas but I'd only want this as a third tree from surprising seeds

That would be a bad interperarion. Make them spawn in the world normally.

12 hours ago, chirsg said:

With the addition of surprising seeds,

I dont want it locked to surprising seeds.

[Q42]

I want DST turned into Factorio.

[DegenerateFurry]

I think I'd rather see something else, like wheat and a bunch of baking recipes to go with it (to go along with a Warly skill tree update?), added before rubber.

[Evelo]

11 hours ago, chirsg said:

perhaps the rubber tree contributed to the ecosystem, so much so, that if not for it's role in nature, our ancestors perhaps would have perished without it's ecological role. There's a greater chance I'm right than I am wrong.

Our ancestors originated from Africa, where the Rubber Tree is not native to. Only when our species interbred with other human like species and traveled across the natural landbridge in the far north did the human species begin to propagate that area of the world. Based on our current evidence of ancient human history, there is no supporting arguments for "our ancestors perhaps would have perished without its ecological role". I understand you mentioned it is "hyperbole" so yknow, There's that. I like to exaggerate too, nothing wrong with it. I just don't do it with historical affairs.

11 hours ago, chirsg said:

It's definitely something that  could be added and even seen by other survivors before they were marooned in the constant. Wickerbottom has probably read about it in her time, as she used to work at the historical equivalent of wikipedia.

16 hours ago, Evelo said:

however modern uses of it started in roughly the 1700s (which is still well before DST time).

16 hours ago, Evelo said:

Anyway, the introduction of rubber could be interesting in future Wagstaff crafts, though specifically non lunar based crafts. Because of it's electrical insulating properties. As for other uses, I suppose it could be used at flotation devices but eeehhh I feel that would be like the many other items that exist but never see use like the Cat Cap and the like.

We seem to be in agreement here. Dunno why it was mentioned. Rubber could easily be apart of the Constant, I was not refuting that.

[Maxposting]

4 hours ago, Q42 said:

I want DST turned into Factorio.

There's a game called Oxygen Not Included.

It's even made by the same guys who made this game, wowza