Compilation of skilltree suggestions for ALL the remaining characters

[loopuleasa]

Off the top of my head, ideas and directions that I find cool

I love all characters equally, and I like randoming through all of them

The list is in no particular order

Maxwell:

• Dark sword "pierce throw" ability (like a wigfrid elding charge, but without movement)
• Night armor and bone armor converts HP loss into twice the sanity loss (like wurt's wetness)
• Maxwell can use night lights to unsummon shadows for full price
• Life amulet works on nearby players as well
• Chilled amulet chills enemies hit (uses durability)
• New station: Shadow hands station (a station where you can choose a recipe and make shadowy hands craft that recipe for you, it also pulls materials from nearby chests with floating arms and deposits it in nearby chests if found like a winbot)
• Only Shadow affinity skills
  • Pacified shadows
  • Can use nightmare amulet to control nearby shadow creatures
  • Night light can assist maxwell in farming fuel by spawning passive shadow cratures (maybe a new shadow fighting minigame with new shadow creatures)

Wanda

• Grand clock: Structure that allows storing clock items
• Cuckoo Bag: A structure that allows you to access your grand clock anywhere and teleport items to/from it to yourself at the cost of sanity on access (get it, because you go cuckoo)
• Only shadow affinity maybe?
  • Shadow Time freeze bubble ( a bubble that slows or freezes time that can be deployed)
  • Lunar Time dilation bubble (a bubble that speeds up time that can be deployed)

Wortox

• Damage or Dodge or Phasing or Crit post soul hop (or combination)
• Fatal hits while carrying over 10 souls consume souls to negate the damage
• Soul well: Deployable well with ability to store souls in it. Can also allow refilling water maybe.
  • You can always hop to a soul well using ONE soul inside the well (even if you have none)
  • Maybe stores 40 souls? A bit expensive similar to a winona telepad in effort?
• Shadow Affinity: Stealth ability and other stealth based shenanigans
• Lunar Affinity: Damage over time abilities in the theme of lunar effects "poisoning" you
• Basically, wortox would make for a good rogue like character

Wendy

• Abi flower multiple skills selection:
  • Abi aoe Fear ability
  • Abi fear also haunts all objects and mobs at location
  • Abigail skill to shield you (stays between you and mobs, and tanks)
• Abigail shadow affinity (haunt mind control a mob, and it becomes friendly and follows you)
• Abigail lunar affinity (shine like a lantern, sanity gain, pacify gestalts)

Walter

• Skills that allow woby to do all aspects that a beefalo can do, so you dont need to choose
• Many Slingshot number and qol skills
• Ability to charge a slingshot for more damage to use less ammo
• Ability to craft boy scout cookies for extra effects
  • Maybe make them non spoil, and with all giving +5 sanity besides main effect
  • Examples: Thin mints make you cool, savanah smiles make you hotter, etc

WX

• Overclocking skills: Ability to add more circuit slots, but add an energy drain if you go past default
• Laser. I don't care in what form, I want to be able to FIREMAHLAZER (high energy consumption)
• Hear me out, what about an ability to save to your computer blueprints of base structures like in factorio, and then WX can auto construct an entire base layout by placing ghost schematics and then placing the structures if you have materials. This would make WX be a cool building bot.
  • Two new items: Structure Scanner, and Structure Planner
  • The items will also calculate all required materials and tell you if they are missing or not.
  • He's a robot, might as well behave like a robot

Wicker

• Targeted and controllable end is nigh bursts in an aoe
• (someone else suggested) ability to knit a quality sweater and scarf
• (someone else suggested) Cat Lady perk: Ability to tame catcoons
• Fire staff and ice staff can target ground and create shorter lived Klaus deer like effects for a lot of durability
• Improved telestaff (reduces purple gem consumption to 2, then 1)

Webber

• Obligatory tame and ride spider queens
• Way for spiders to "burrow" or hide as storage when you wish
• Various effects for webber eating switcherdoodles
  • Can include passive healing for nurse, jump attack for warrior, spiderman like grappling hook for depth dweller doodles, etc

Warly

• Accomplished butcher: Murdering animals with more yields (incentivises capturing them live)
• Ways to capture more animals for humane butchering
• Hear me out: In "One Hour One Life" game there is a combo eating system called "Yum" chain https://onehouronelife.fandom.com/wiki/Yum_Bonus
• What if Warly's shadow and lunar affinities are tied to a "Eat your veggies" or "Picky eater" type challenge as you play, where you have a cockpot dish as a craving and if you manage to ONLY eat the recipe that Warly "craves" again and again you get a Gourmet chain going, and that increases the restorative capabilities of the next food by a big %, with an added lunar or shadow power as you do so. You can still play normally, or you can Gourmet streak for a big bonus. The mod proved that it is really challenging and really fun to eat on specific terms.

 

I will keep this thread updated as more ideas come mind so as to have them in one place and avoid... any incidents

Let me know if other things spring to mind as you're reading this.

[ChintzyGnat]

Wes -> balloon mech

[Balter]

WX getting a laser cannon? Basically a second Willow.

[zhangsheng]

2 hours ago, loopuleasa said:

• Life amulet works on nearby players as well
• Chilled amulet chills enemies hit (uses durability)

To be honest, I hope this is a quality of life update that everyone can enjoy, rather than a skill tree exclusive to Maxwell.

2 hours ago, loopuleasa said:

Wendy

• Abi flower multiple skills selection:
  • Abi aoe Fear ability
  • Abi fear also haunts all objects and mobs at location
  • Abigail skill to shield you (stays between you and mobs, and tanks)
• Abigail shadow affinity (haunt mind control a mob, and it becomes friendly and follows you)
• Abigail lunar affinity (shine like a lantern, sanity gain, pacify gestalts)

Also, isn't this Wendy's skill tree? Why did it become Abigail's.

[Sir Noel]

2 hours ago, loopuleasa said:

WX

• Overclocking skills: Ability to add more circuit slots, but add an energy drain if you go past default

Please. I just want anything like this, even if it's base kit. I'm really excited for the WX skill tree the most because of the current problems leftover from the rework.

[loopuleasa]

17 minutes ago, zhangsheng said:

Also, isn't this Wendy's skill tree? Why did it become Abigail's.

[Frashaw27]

4 hours ago, loopuleasa said:

Only Shadow affinity skills

I don't really like the idea of Maxwell and Wanda only having only Shadow Alignments. Just because Wormwood is lunar locked (which I also don't like for the record) shouldn't mean that Maxwell and Wanda are also locked to the same fate. They have also both shown interest in lunar magic:

Yes. I desire the knowledge of the moon - Maxwell examining the Celestial Alter

If I could have discovered this power first... ah well, I suppose it's in the past. - Wanda examining the Celestial Tribute

Both have an interest of using the lunar magic for themselves and so I don't see why they would be restricted unlike Wormwood who is either generally disinterested in or scared of Shadow Magic. I could maybe see a lore reason being stated for Maxwell but I feel like he would also could use lunar magic in an attempt to go against Charlie to help separate her from her shadow self. Wanda though, I don't see any reason why she'd be restricted, she clearly isn't beyond wanting to make more deals with other entities.

[Sir Noel]

5 minutes ago, Frashaw27 said:

I don't really like the idea of Maxwell and Wanda only having only Shadow Alignments. Just because Wormwood is lunar locked (which I also don't like for the record) shouldn't mean that Maxwell and Wanda are also locked to the same fate. They have also both shown interest in lunar magic:

Yes. I desire the knowledge of the moon - Maxwell examining the Celestial Alter

If I could have discovered this power first... ah well, I suppose it's in the past. - Wanda examining the Celestial Tribute

Both have an interest of using the lunar magic for themselves and so I don't see why they would be restricted unlike Wormwood who is either generally disinterested in or scared of Shadow Magic. I could maybe see a lore reason being stated for Maxwell but I feel like he would also could use lunar magic in an attempt to go against Charlie to help separate her from her shadow self. Wanda though, I don't see any reason why she'd be restricted, she clearly isn't beyond wanting to make more deals with other entities.

I only agree with Wanda, she would definitely have both affinities. While Maxwell is curious about the moon and its powers, I doubt he would want to be fully affiliated with it and sever his already existing partnership, especially after rework short we got. He is clearly more comfortable with Charlie and shadow magic in general, and perhaps his shadow affinity skills will tie into that.

[fabin]

5 hours ago, loopuleasa said:

cool suggestions WX

did not mention faster work speed/efficiency skill, fake WX78 fan spotted!!1!

but for real, i hope they add some sort of way to work more efficiently as WX. they're all about speed (and also thermal freedom around winter and summer, but i like being a speed demon) so i'd like seeing that movement speed transfered over to work speed somehow

[loopuleasa]

Maxwell is actually the Michael Jackson of the constant, and he doesn't like bright lights. He prefers the dark and shadowy umbrellas.

[Evelo]

Wendy:
Additional Mourning Glories when completing a Pipspook Search. (Obviously)

Few more Elixirs (really wish they could be baseline instead of gained via skills but we live in a society...)

Cadaverous Concoction - Abigail provides a cooling effect around her.
Crematorium Ashes - Abigail provides a warming effect around her.
Ectoplasmic Reticulum - Abigail gains an aura that slows creatures around her. (Very similar to Wickerbottom's Overcoming Arachnophobia book but attached to Abby.)
Gallows Tincture - Causes Abigail to become invulnerable and taunt creatures for a brief period of time (like 30 seconds to 1 min?). When the effect ends she dies and returns to stage 1.

Affinity alternatives: (Temporary buffs mutually exclusive with other potions like normal)
Lunatic's Mix - Imbue Abigail with Lunar Magic. Increases AoE (or something else) of her attack and gains planar protection and planar damage.
Shady Solution - Imbue Abigail with Shadow Magic. Nightshade Nostrum bonus (or something else) and gains planar protection and planar damage.

And many more potion possibilities. If anything I just want the name "Ectoplasmic Reticulum" to be in the game somewhere. I am so proud of that name.
 

[Intrepidpioneer]

8 hours ago, Frashaw27 said:

I don't really like the idea of Maxwell and Wanda only having only Shadow Alignments. Just because Wormwood is lunar locked (which I also don't like for the record) shouldn't mean that Maxwell and Wanda are also locked to the same fate. They have also both shown interest in lunar magic:

Yes. I desire the knowledge of the moon - Maxwell examining the Celestial Alter

If I could have discovered this power first... ah well, I suppose it's in the past. - Wanda examining the Celestial Tribute

Both have an interest of using the lunar magic for themselves and so I don't see why they would be restricted unlike Wormwood who is either generally disinterested in or scared of Shadow Magic. I could maybe see a lore reason being stated for Maxwell but I feel like he would also could use lunar magic in an attempt to go against Charlie to help separate her from her shadow self. Wanda though, I don't see any reason why she'd be restricted, she clearly isn't beyond wanting to make more deals with other entities.

Wanda says this when you examine a gestalt:  "Would making a deal with another mysterious entity be pushing my luck?"

So Wanda being able to be lunar aligned is absolutely in the realm of possibility. 

[WenericMember]

Wendy:

• Ability to upgrade Sisturn to allow Abbi to inflict status when charged
• Enhanced Telltale hearts (ghost is revived with maxxed stats
• Ability to repair touchstones

Wortox:

• Increased soul carrying capacity
• Soul dishes (requires rare ingredients such as avocados, eels etc, but is close to a meaty stew in terms of effectiveness)

 

[Evelo]

13 hours ago, Frashaw27 said:

I don't really like the idea of Maxwell and Wanda only having only Shadow Alignments. Just because Wormwood is lunar locked (which I also don't like for the record) shouldn't mean that Maxwell and Wanda are also locked to the same fate. They have also both shown interest in lunar magic:

To each their own. I love the fact Wormwood is Lunar only and I hope Maxwell is Shadow only.
Wanda could go either way which would be interesting to see the dichotomy with her situation.

Regarding interest, Wormwood is very capable of shadow manipulation, just look at his ability to create living logs which are hypothesized to be shadow tainted given treeguards drop monster meat. So I am not surprised Maxwell would want to dabble in lunar magic but rely mostly on shadow magic.

[loopuleasa]

On 7/12/2024 at 8:41 AM, Evelo said:

 just look at his ability to create living logs which are hypothesized to be shadow tainted given treeguards drop monster meat

To be fair, trees can be argued to be lunar aligned as well from their aesthetics

Living logs is not inherently shadow in my mind

[grm9]

On 7/12/2024 at 7:41 AM, Evelo said:

look at his ability to create living logs which are hypothesized to be shadow tainted given treeguards drop monster meat

mole bats and lunar spiders also drop it so that's probably unrelated

[Mike23Ua]

There are currently 8 characters with skill trees (Wilson, Willow, Wigfrid, Wolfgang, Woodie, Wormwood, Wurt, Winona)

That means … there’s a whole damn bunch more that have yet to get skill trees, (Wendy, Webber, WX78, Wickerbottom, Maxwell, Wortox, Warly, Wes, Walter, Wanda)

And even more than that if we want to count Wilbur/Wonkey, Walani, Woodlegs, Wilba, Wagstaff, Wheeler,

This means that with an update every 3-4 months that it’ll be roughly 2 to 3 years before Klei is done with this whole skill tree fiasco crap..

And personally I would’ve preferred development time had went elsewhere, such as releasing huge paid dlc expansions the same size and scope of something like Shipwrecked and Hamlet, OR maybe even returning Gorge & Forge events back into the game.

But instead nah we got more characters without skill trees then we do with skill trees.. and honestly not nearly enough Early/Mid/Late Game content to warrant even NEEDING A skill tree in the first place.

[NPCMaxwell]

5 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

There are currently 8 characters with skill trees (Wilson, Willow, Wigfrid, Wolfgang, Woodie, Wormwood, Wurt, Winona)

That means … there’s a whole damn bunch more that have yet to get skill trees, (Wendy, Webber, WX78, Wickerbottom, Maxwell, Wortox, Warly, Wes, Walter, Wanda)

And even more than that if we want to count Wilbur/Wonkey, Walani, Woodlegs, Wilba, Wagstaff, Wheeler,

This means that with an update every 3-4 months that it’ll be roughly 2 to 3 years before Klei is done with this whole skill tree fiasco crap..

And personally I would’ve preferred development time had went elsewhere, such as releasing huge paid dlc expansions the same size and scope of something like Shipwrecked and Hamlet, OR maybe even returning Gorge & Forge events back into the game.

But instead nah we got more characters without skill trees then we do with skill trees.. and honestly not nearly enough Early/Mid/Late Game content to warrant even NEEDING A skill tree in the first place.

I wish skill trees were never made in the first place :/ They take away so much focus and now that you estimated how long it will take I feel even LESS encouraged to ever play with a skilltree character [Wilson is an exception as his skilltree doesn't change my gameplay much]

[Evelo]

7 hours ago, loopuleasa said:

To be fair, trees can be argued to be lunar aligned as well from their aesthetics

Living logs is not inherently shadow in my mind

7 hours ago, grm9 said:

mole bats and lunar spiders also drop it so that's probably unrelated

Yep, hence why I said "hypothesized". Forgot who made it but just something I remember as a funny possibility.

[Waoling]

8 hours ago, NPCMaxwell said:

I wish skill trees were never made in the first place :/ They take away so much focus and now that you estimated how long it will take I feel even LESS encouraged to ever play with a skilltree character [Wilson is an exception as his skilltree doesn't change my gameplay much]

The past is gone, you can only live in the now.

[Evelo]

8 hours ago, NPCMaxwell said:

I wish skill trees were never made in the first place :/ They take away so much focus and now that you estimated how long it will take I feel even LESS encouraged to ever play with a skilltree character [Wilson is an exception as his skilltree doesn't change my gameplay much]

Yep. I hate skillsets but they are here to stay, so might as well make them as enjoyable as possible. We always have c_skip(150) to just instantly get inspiration. Or make a world where you literally can't die and leave your console on while you sleep, then you will awake to 150 inspiration.
My friend is actually able to enjoy the game now without a stupid anime character since Willow is a mage now. (Why wasn't most of her skills baseline!?!??!?!?) So I am happy about that for me at least.

[NPCMaxwell]

6 hours ago, Waoling said:

The past is gone, you can only live in the now.

 

6 hours ago, Evelo said:

Yep. I hate skillsets but they are here to stay, so might as well make them as enjoyable as possible. We always have c_skip(150) to just instantly get inspiration. Or make a world where you literally can't die and leave your console on while you sleep, then you will awake to 150 inspiration.
My friend is actually able to enjoy the game now without a stupid anime character since Willow is a mage now. (Why wasn't most of her skills baseline!?!??!?!?) So I am happy about that for me at least.

In those cases it's of course perfect for everyone who enjoys the new skillsets. Me just probably will never see a reason to play with any standard character besides Wilson anymore, but that's also ok since my focus from the playing POV is on Wilson and Maxwell only, anyway. Maybe something positive about the skilltrees is that I may draw some more inspiration from them for small mod changes.