Radicaljoe Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 I understand regular rocks not hitting them, but this is literally a lunar explosion that can break trees. Don't Starve Together 2024-06-20 14-38-42.mp4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 I'd say no I feel like that should stay Willow's area of expertise. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 Moleworm can body spam a nightmare creature. Also, for some reason the lunar catapult is the only one able to hit shadelings. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 sure why not? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wikte Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 Yeah Planar strike should hit nightmare creatures Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
safethief Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 I think my answer is yes, because Brightshade Bomb can hit nightmare Creatures. They all used the power of Pure Brilliance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memetan Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 No, Winona is not Willow Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted June 20, 2024 Author Share Posted June 20, 2024 I can understand keeping Willow and Winona separate, however consider Bernie can do it day 1 for free and Winona has to not only reach rift content, but use the brilliance to power the gemerator. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 10 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said: I can understand keeping Willow and Winona separate, however consider Bernie can do it day 1 for free and Winona has to not only reach rift content, but use the brilliance to power the gemerator. Okay but then that asks the question why can't shattered spiders or empowered mutant merms attack shadow creatures? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrefy Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 It should, but I don't think it would make much difference or be efficient in any way, beyond roleplay. But it would be fun. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatAndRun Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Personally I would like to use catapults to hunt fused shadelings. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroely Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 1 hour ago, HeatAndRun said: Personally I would like to use catapults to hunt fused shadelings. Me too! I'd greatly appreciate if I could more quickly gather the Pure Horror I need for my catapults. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 14 hours ago, Mysterious box said: Okay but then that asks the question why can't shattered spiders or empowered mutant merms attack shadow creatures? Because those are physical creatures and the lunar catapult is firing an explosion of nonphysical lunar magic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Radicaljoe said: Because those are physical creatures and the lunar catapult is firing an explosion of nonphysical lunar magic. The reverse logic is what it works on though as non physical energy is the exact opposite of what harms shadow creatures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 8 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: The reverse logic is what it works on though as non physical energy is the exact opposite of what harms shadow creatures. Don't Starve Together 2024-06-21 10-35-44.mp4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said: Don't Starve Together 2024-06-21 10-35-44.mp4 That's because it's considered part of the player Wurt's mosquitos bombs do the same thing which is the exact opposite of energy based. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: That's because it's considered part of the player Wurt's mosquitos bombs do the same thing which is the exact opposite of energy based. Okay so a mosquito bomb made by a child can hit shadows, but the end-game catapult that uses lunar power and creates the exact same effect as the lunar bomb that is able to hit said creatures can't? Do you not see how silly that is? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 6 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said: Okay so a mosquito bomb made by a child can hit shadows, but the end-game catapult that uses lunar power and creates the exact same effect as the lunar bomb that is able to hit said creatures can't? Do you not see how silly that is? So a catapult fueled by lunar late game energies should be able to hit shadow creatures but merms empowered by the energy that makes them beings of the opposite force their mortal enemies can't? The same logic applies. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, Mysterious box said: So a catapult fueled by lunar late game energies should be able to hit shadow creatures but merms empowered by the energy that makes them beings of the opposite force their mortal enemies can't? The same logic applies. Well, merms cannot see the creatures, and the catapults can't see them either, but that's why winona has the remote. The remote lets Winona hit them. So now the logic of players hitting the creatures applies. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, Radicaljoe said: Well, merms cannot see the creatures, and the catapults can't see them either, but that's why winona has the remote. The remote lets Winona hit them. So now the logic of players hitting the creatures applies. But merms can Wurt and shadow merms prove this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 6 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: But merms can Wurt and shadow merms prove this. Okay so merms should be allowed to hit nm creatures too then, if they can see them, and physical damage is what hurts nightmares, then wurt and her army should be allowed to damage nm creatures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 37 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said: Okay so merms should be allowed to hit nm creatures too then, if they can see them, and physical damage is what hurts nightmares, then wurt and her army should be allowed to damage nm creatures. This would open up a whole can of worms worth of problems. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBowers Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 The catapult should be able to hit them, full stop. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 I had the same thought. Maybe Winona would need to manually target the catapult though. I can see a case that the catapult shouldn't be able to automatically target nightmare creatures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBowers Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Manual targeting the planar strike makes sense Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157362-should-lunar-catapults-hit-nm-creatures/#findComment-1727905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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