Affinities are a mistake. Prove me wrong

[Mortalbane]

1 hour ago, Uedo said:

Totally, you win. well done, everything should be for you and your tastes, even things you had no contribution in creating.

Ahaha, true, i'm glad you understood that! I wish all people would see it as you do now!
Now go, my faithful disciple, and spread my word and my will over the realms!

[Uedo]

17 hours ago, Mortalbane said:

As i said, prove me wrong. 

I missed this - That's not how it works and you know it. It's on you to substantiate your claim, not for us to disprove it.

2 minutes ago, Mortalbane said:

Ahaha, true, i'm glad you understood that! I wish all people would see it as you do now!
Now go, my faithful disciple, and spread my word and my will over the realms!

I hope you enjoyed your supply! You're wonderful, never stop bringing truth to the masses! Gosh, everything is so much clearer now, you're so insightful. 

(I require further payment before your next delivery!)

[Mortalbane]

1 hour ago, Uedo said:

I missed this - That's not how it works and you know it. It's on you to substantiate your claim, not for us to disprove it.

Oh, not this again. If you have nothing to say on the subject, please just don't say anything.
Don't spam and don't force me to spam back, like we did with the other dude.

[Uedo]

1 minute ago, Mortalbane said:

Oh, not this again. If you have nothing to say on the subject, please just don't say anything.
Don't spam and don't force me to spam back, like we did with the other dude.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. 
You clearly just want an easy out of the conversation. I mean this with absolutely no snark or malice, but you don't have to be disingenuous, i'm really not that invested, have a good night my friend! 

[Faintly Macabre]

17 minutes ago, Mortalbane said:

"your opinion is wrong and thus should be disregarded"

2 hours ago, Faintly Macabre said:

You're just being pretentious and overly opinionated. Which is actually fine, in and of itself? But your topic is not "I don't like affinities" or "Affinities could be better" or even "Affinities suck". It's "Affinities are a Mistake. Prove me wrong."

And yeah, you rubbed my nose in a mistake I freely admitted to making, but I'm the jerk. 

[Mortalbane]

1 hour ago, Uedo said:

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. 
You clearly just want an easy out of the conversation. I mean this with absolutely no snark or malice, but you don't have to be disingenuous, i'm really not that invested, have a good night my friend! 

Read the discussion, it has everything you ask for. Good night

[Jakepeng99]

Forum boss battle.

[goblinball]

12 hours ago, Mortalbane said:

it will end some day. Then y'all will remember my words, and i will have a big cup of itoldyouso =)

Klei will continue updating dst until it’s no longe profitable to do so. This has barely anything to do with affinities. I can’t imagine blaming DST’s death in like 100 years or so on skill tree affinities and nothing else.

 

11 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

But like only for damage? That's kinda shallow, don't you think? And players don't even feel like those choices matter. The only one affinity that I think is decent and have enough impact to be at play was Woodie's Shadow Wrangler perk.

I wouldn’t be against affinities being more impactful but I understand why they aren’t because imagine trying to design new post rifts content while accounting for massive and game-changing affinities and skill tree perks. With the current affinity perks klei can easily develop content which will be enjoyable for everyone regardless of their affinities.

 

12 hours ago, Mortalbane said:

But we can't undo rifts, why we can undo choice.
This is part of a bigger issue with the celestial portal, which allows you to re-spec skill points. This makes choice shallow, this makes "early game skills" and "switch skills", which have their value reduced to zero after some time. As i said, i have a lot of issues with skill trees, affinity is just one of them.

Being able to change your mind doesn’t make your choice shallow, especially considering it isn’t free and you can’t just go to the celestial portal whenever. You’re still missing out on the other affinities’ perks, even if you can swap to them later. Imagine if you couldn’t respec in game like elden ring or couldn’t change your equipment loadout in games like hollow knight strictly to “make your choices not shallow” like that actually means anything. 

12 hours ago, Mortalbane said:

DS/T is a rogue-like. Ability to re-spec should be considered only for endless modes, if at all.
Difference is if permadeath mode is an option, or a default.

I accidentally forgot to include this in my original reply so I’m writing a separate one for this simply because of just how absurd this statement is. Yes, DST has a permadeath mode. That does not make it a roguelike! I feel like I shouldn’t even need to explain how the average 30 minute balatro run is completely incomparable to the average weeks-long commitment that is a dst world. Especially considering that dst doesn’t even have a win state like actual roguelikes.

Nobody says minecraft or terraria are roguelikes despite them also having permadeath modes. Calling DST a roguelike implies you actually know next to nothing about the game or just misunderstood the roguelike label (which is fine, genre names are kinda silly nowadays). I really hope your reasoning is the latter.

[Mortalbane]

1 hour ago, goblinball said:

Klei will continue updating dst until it’s no longe profitable to do so. This has barely anything to do with affinities. I can’t imagine blaming DST’s death in like 100 years or so on skill tree affinities and nothing else.

I said nothing about death of DST, moreover death because of poor affinity system.
Cmon people, if you can't even read and understand what i'm saying, how am i supposed to have a discussion. It's not like i write with google translate, where half of meaning is lost.
I won't even bother reading further.

[goblinball]

11 minutes ago, Mortalbane said:

I won't even bother reading further.

Just admit you have no rebuttal man lmao