Frogzard Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 The automatic regeneration and sanity lowering would remain the same. If you kill a shadow creature with a dreadstone armor piece below 100% equipped, it will absorb the shadow creature to repair a small amount of durability. The downside is you don't get the sanity or nightmare fuel that you would have gotten from killing the shadow creature. If you wanted to make it even more brutal, you could make it so the armor no longer auto-repairs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 no thanks, its already way too good of an item. give this to the cowl and robe instead Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogzard Posted March 16, 2024 Author Share Posted March 16, 2024 What if it no longer regenerated automatically, so the only way to repair it was to kill shadow creatures? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaik Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 35 minutes ago, Frogzard said: What if it no longer regenerated automatically, so the only way to repair it was to kill shadow creatures? 2 hours ago, Frogzard said: The automatic regeneration and sanity lowering would remain the same. If you kill a shadow creature with a dreadstone armor piece below 100% equipped, it will absorb the shadow creature to repair a small amount of durability. The downside is you don't get the sanity or nightmare fuel that you would have gotten from killing the shadow creature. If you wanted to make it even more brutal, you could make it so the armor no longer auto-repairs. This is literally how the bone armor regenerates (indirectly) Shadow creatures drop NMF which regenerates bone armor Thus killing shadow creatures regenerates bone armor You're talking about doing the same thing another item already does Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogzard Posted March 16, 2024 Author Share Posted March 16, 2024 21 minutes ago, Kwaik said: This is literally how the bone armor regenerates (indirectly) Shadow creatures drop NMF which regenerates bone armor Thus killing shadow creatures regenerates bone armor You're talking about doing the same thing another item already does It's not the same at all. You can stock up on nightmare fuel and safely repair the armor during hectic fights. With my suggestion (which I didn't intend as an actual suggestion, more of a thought experiment), if you wanted to do the same thing then that would mean having to fight nightmare creatures at the same time as whatever else you're using the armor to fight. It would also take a lot more time to repair it. Imagine the difference in fighting something like Dragonfly, for example. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Your suggestion is to change mechanics or add new ones for no reason. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 Why changing a good item with good mechanics? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogzard Posted March 16, 2024 Author Share Posted March 16, 2024 5 hours ago, Gi-Go said: Your suggestion is to change mechanics or add new ones for no reason. 49 minutes ago, arubaro said: Why changing a good item with good mechanics? My hope was that in titling the post "What if... " rather than "They should make this change: ", it would be perceived more as a discussion rather than an earnest suggestion to change the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, Frogzard said: What if... Then nothing. It's like refueling but automatic. If there was some sort of item that instantly killed shadow creatures while also restoring durability that would be curious. But manually killing shadows makes your suggestion rather boring. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogzard Posted March 16, 2024 Author Share Posted March 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Gi-Go said: Then nothing. It's like refueling but automatic. If there was some sort of item that instantly killed shadow creatures while also restoring durability that would be curious. But manually killing shadows makes your suggestion rather boring. It's not like refueling at all. What makes it interesting is you can't just stock up nightmare fuel then quickly and safely restore large amounts of durability at once. I already said it in a previous comment, but imagine fighting Dragonfly. With something like the bone armor you can easily refuel even in between dodges if you wanted to. With this change, if you wanted to restore durability mid-fight you would have to contend with shadow creatures simultaneously. It makes it much more interesting and adds a unique downside to the strength of the armor. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 9 minutes ago, Frogzard said: It's not like refueling at all. What makes it interesting is you can't just stock up nightmare fuel then quickly and safely restore large amounts of durability at once. I already said it in a previous comment, but imagine fighting Dragonfly. With something like the bone armor you can easily refuel even in between dodges if you wanted to. With this change, if you wanted to restore durability mid-fight you would have to contend with shadow creatures simultaneously. It makes it much more interesting and adds a unique downside to the strength of the armor. It makes this armor suck on bosses is what it does. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchgabo Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 I don't think it is needed as already stated by other people , but I would love another feature for the dreadstone armor because I can usually skip this item after the rifts are open Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154979-what-if-dreadstone-armor-absorbed-killed-shadow-creatures/#findComment-1705254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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