[Guide] Sustenance's Big Book of Farm Layouts

[Sustenance]

So far I have added all the layouts I believe are possible (at least with 3x3 and hex) but I'd love to be proven wrong or have them simplified

I made a previous post categorizing all self feeding crop combos possible. The problem is some of the complex ones don't have easy layouts that allow for the family bonus. I'm making this guide to try and create at least one layout for each possible combo.

 

Layout Choices

The goal is to make them as efficient as possible while still being easy to make. So for a 1-1 crop combo like potato and toma root, hexagon tilling is preferred since it uses all 10 possible spaces for plants as opposed to the usual 3x3 which leaves a space open.

This means that any crop combos that 10 (the number of spots in hex tilling) is divisible by (ie 10, 5, and 2) will be best in hexagon tilling, while any crop combos that 9 is divisible by (ie 9 and 3) will be best in 3x3 tilling. So 5 crop combos (no matter if there's duplicates or not) will be preferred in hex tilling since you can fit 2 of the 5 crop combos in to completely fill the plot, while in a 3x3 plot you can only fit one 5 crop combo and are left with 4 empty spaces.

 

Impossible Combos

Any combo that has more than 4 single crops (X,1,1,1,1) is impossible using 3x3 and Hex tilling.

With 3x3 tilling only the center 4x4 grid where the tiles meet can accommodate single plants. Any other spots are not able to see one of the 4 tiles and therefore cannot get the family bonus.

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With Hex tilling its the same. In the picture below there is no possible way the corn (a 5th single plant) can reach the top right tile since its only spots are taken by the pepper and potato which have no places to move.

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More than 4 crops may be possible on 4x4 tilling but that remains to be tested.

 

Another impossible condition is if the highest numbered crop in the set is 2 and it is using the hex layout. This is a problem for 10 crop combos since they always need to use hex planting. Only one plant outside the plot (blue arrow) can reach the plant in the corner (red arrow) meaning the corner plants will never be able touch the 4 plants needed for the family bonus without a 3rd plant of that type in the plot.

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The final impossible combo only occurs in the 2,2,2,1,1,1 layout. As it is a 9 crop combo it uses the 3x3 grid. As established before, in the 3x3 grid single plants (1,1,1) can only use the middle 4x4 meaning our double crops (2,2,2) will have to cover the outsides. In order to get the family bonus in the far corners the crops must be placed as shown below (with the highlighted crop able to be placed in any of the 4 boxed spots)

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If we extend this to fit the other far corners we end up with the layout below

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Our final double crop cannot get the family bonus using the remaining outer spaces and the inner spaces must be used for the single plants. Therefore a 2,2,2,1,1,1 layout is impossible with 3x3 tilling. Additionally the highest numbered crop is a 2 in this combo meaning according to the previous rule is it also impossible in a Hex layout.

 

Other References

Hex vs 3x3

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4 single crops with family bonus on a 3x3 and hex plot

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Contributing

Please suggest layouts I've not filled in, or layouts you can improve on in the comments

The planner used is found here.

 

2 Crop Combos

1,1

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3 Crop Combos

1,1,1

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2,1

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4 Crop Combos

(best possible layouts would have all 4 extra places be in family range of each other as well so you can use them to plant a 2-2 combo)

1,1,1,1

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2,1,1

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2,2

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5 Crop Combos

1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,1,1,1

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2,2,1 (from @GetNerfedOn's guide here)

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3,1,1

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6 Crop Combos

1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,1,1,1,1

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2,2,1,1

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2,2,2

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3,1,1,1

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3,2,1

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3,3

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4,1,1

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4,2

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7 Crop Combos

1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,2,2,1

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3,1,1,1,1

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3,2,1,1

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4,1,1,1

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4,2,1

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8 Crop Combos

1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,2,1,1,1,1

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2,2,2,1,1

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2,2,2,2

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3,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

3,2,1,1,1

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3,2,2,1

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3,3,1,1

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4,1,1,1,1

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4,2,1,1

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4,2,2

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4,3,1

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4,4

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5,1,1,1

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5,2,1

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9 Crop Combos

1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,2,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,2,2,1,1,1 (Impossible: See explanation at start)

2,2,2,2,1 (very proud of this one)

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3,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

3,2,1,1,1,1

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3,2,2,1,1

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3,2,2,2

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3,3,1,1,1

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3,3,2,1

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3,3,3

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4,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

4,2,1,1,1

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4,2,2,1

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4,3,1,1

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5,2,1,1

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5,3,1

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6,2,1

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6,3

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10 Crop Combos

1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,2,2,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

2,2,2,2,1,1 (Impossible: highest crop is 2 in a hex layout)

2,2,2,2,2 (Impossible: highest crop is 2 in a hex layout)

3,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

3,2,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

3,2,2,1,1,1

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3,2,2,2,1

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3,3,1,1,1,1

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3,3,2,1,1

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3,3,2,2 (from @GetNerfedOn's guide here)

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4,1,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

4,2,1,1,1,1

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4,2,2,1,1 (from @GetNerfedOn's guide here)

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4,2,2,2 (from @GetNerfedOn's guide here)

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4,3,1,1,1

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4,3,2,1

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4,4,1,1

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4,4,2 (by bargainbinbest and from @GetNerfedOn's guide here)

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5,1,1,1,1,1 (Impossible: more than four 1s)

5,2,1,1,1

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5,2,2,1

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5,3,1,1

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5,3,2

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5,4,1

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5,5

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6,2,1,1

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6,2,2 (from @GetNerfedOn's guide here)

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[GetNerfedOn]

This is all very much appreciated, thank you so much! I'll set myself on the trail of doable stuff i overlooked like the 6-2-1-1 for instance and work from there

So sorry i haven't been able to respond apart from reacts lately, been busy and the Klei Forums have been wacky for me lately; ive been unable to access them solely from my home internet which is really strange. 

I must posit that the mist complicated combos like ten crop combos we can skip as given the variety you could never achieve family and therefore anything goes for arrangements. Though you could probably get giants near the middle of the board if planting on a 2x2 tile setup 

[Sustenance]

3 hours ago, GetNerfedOn said:

I must posit that the mist complicated combos like ten crop combos we can skip as given the variety you could never achieve family and therefore anything goes for arrangements

Dw about responding. im just having fun seeing how many are possible.

Also any combo with over ~4 single crops (X,1,1,1,1) is either impossible or at least very hard and would need to use hex. Otherwise its pretty doable imo. I'm sure there's some limit for double crops too but ig well see if it matters here

[Sustenance]

On 2/25/2024 at 8:09 PM, GetNerfedOn said:

I'll set myself on the trail of doable stuff

If you get bored and want to work on one try (2,2,2,1,1,1). I think it may be impossible but I dont have any concrete proof it is unlike the other ones i cant do.

[GetNerfedOn]

On 2/27/2024 at 12:58 PM, Sustenance said:

If you get bored and want to work on one try (2,2,2,1,1,1). I think it may be impossible but I dont have any concrete proof it is unlike the other ones i cant do.

this is the furthest i could get:

wherein i assumed that a 2-2-2-1-1-1 was composed of two separate combos, with either the 2-2-2 or 1-1-1 balancing each other. While i took some inspiration from your 2-2-2-2-1 layout, the edges make it so at least 1 of the 1's doesn't get family

[GetNerfedOn]

Hello hello it has been a while. Took a break from DST to hand college its ass one last time.

Something I've pondered a bit recently is to simplify the current 2-2-3-3 layout we have given how complex it is. 

And huh i found one layout that works

I have assumptions about this layout i want to prove, like why that row arrangement in particular works. I'll have to test this ingame (my d400 save was nuked due to afk while loading, lmao) and add this to the other guide too. 

[GetNerfedOn]

Adding this here from the guide for posterity's sake, as although the 4-2-2-2 layout is already here the new combo needs visualization, still

[Cyrefy]

You are a legend, thank you.

[Sustenance]

On 5/2/2024 at 11:50 AM, GetNerfedOn said:

Hello hello it has been a while. Took a break from DST to hand college its ass one last time.

Something I've pondered a bit recently is to simplify the current 2-2-3-3 layout we have given how complex it is. 

And huh i found one layout that works

I have assumptions about this layout i want to prove, like why that row arrangement in particular works. I'll have to test this ingame (my d400 save was nuked due to afk while loading, lmao) and add this to the other guide too. 

somehow my code missed the 2,2,3,3 combo, ill have to look over it again. ty for the catch and layout

ignore that its 3,3,2,2 and im dumb lmao. I really got myself scared there for a second

[GetNerfedOn]

5 hours ago, Sustenance said:

somehow my code missed the 2,2,3,3 combo, ill have to look over it again. ty for the catch and layout

ignore that its 3,3,2,2 and im dumb lmao. I really got myself scared there for a second

The 2-2-3-3 is force of habit sorry xD

At any rate. After thought, the principle of the layout is that the parallel rows work because a crop can juuuust barely reach one parallel neighbor and and two of its neighboring row crops. 

So if doing rows like that the least possible iteration that works is a 3:3 parallel row:

Perhaps this could help you find more layouts as a result

[Sustenance]

2 hours ago, GetNerfedOn said:

The 2-2-3-3 is force of habit sorry xD

At any rate. After thought, the principle of the layout is that the parallel rows work because a crop can juuuust barely reach one parallel neighbor and and two of its neighboring row crops. 

So if doing rows like that the least possible iteration that works is a 3:3 parallel row:

Perhaps this could help you find more layouts as a result

I think this can definitely be used to simplify some of the existing layouts that arent really feasible in a normal game, but right now the majority of unsolved layouts are because we cant fit more than 4 single crops in any layout. for that I think we'd need a different layout completely for those.

[Sustenance]

@GetNerfedOn I managed to prove the 2,2,2,1,1,1 is impossible with both Hex and 3x3 so now we have all layouts either finished or proved impossible. Unless were feeling particularly masochistic and want to invent a new tilling pattern (or try 4x4), all that left now is to simplify them (and come up with a comprehensive rule for the 2,2,2,1,1,1 problem)

[GetNerfedOn]

25 minutes ago, Sustenance said:

@GetNerfedOn I managed to prove the 2,2,2,1,1,1 is impossible with both Hex and 3x3 so now we have all layouts either finished or proved impossible. Unless were feeling particularly masochistic and want to invent a new tilling pattern (or try 4x4), all that left now is to simplify them (and come up with a comprehensive rule for the 2,2,2,1,1,1 problem)

4x4 gets stress from crowding so that's inapplicable barring the Gorge

That is also why any crop balance ratio for weak or strong crops that involves more than 4 of any crop won't work cos yeah you need more than 10 crops and the crowding limit hits

edit: the exceptions to the4 crop rule are 5:5s and 6 mixed crop combos

[Sustenance]

10 hours ago, GetNerfedOn said:

4x4 gets stress from crowding so that's inapplicable barring the Gorge

That is also why any crop balance ratio for weak or strong crops that involves more than 4 of any crop won't work cos yeah you need more than 10 crops and the crowding limit hits

edit: the exceptions to the4 crop rule are 5:5s and 6 mixed crop combos

I meant 4x4 purely for different positioning of crops, obviously you still need to have 10 max in a plot. I havent tried 4x4 in game tho and the site has the tiles overlapping so it may not be feasible anyways