Rushin the ruins as new willow is so easy I could do it with my eyes closed.

[arubaro]

5 hours ago, prettynuggets said:

did u try using panflute to fight bq? and then try it with friend lol. 
lol i re-read ur message to arubaro saying kiting took 30 minutes. that more than 4 days in game . how in the world u do that ? 

because you need to separate her from the drones which takes time because she is so slow and if you scrub you need to start the splitting process again, also you only have few seconds to hit her until the drones reach your position

did you even tried it? seems like you are only being childish without knowing what you are talking about

[chirsg]

I will not allow a thread to be locked without at least saying one thing in it. 

For the sake of the discussion, Willow has always been pretty powerful in the ruins rush. It's just that she's lacked in everything else generally...

 

Willow was underrated in my opinion and she didn't particularly need a great deal of power added to push her to the point of a god.

If you are so inclined, try a ruins rush in the main branch with Willow. You'll find that BERNIE is a beast in the caves. 

 

As for the fires, I've got nothing. Maybe they need to be balanced, maybe they don't. Not my place to say

[mima_]

9 hours ago, arubaro said:

because you need to separate her from the drones which takes time because she is so slow and if you scrub you need to start the splitting process again, also you only have few seconds to hit her until the drones reach your position

yeah i know that. even i do that i wont take more than 4 days in game to do with panflute method. im not sure if u following but from the start i was only talking about me killing bq with panflute and bee keeper hat as armor ???? so i kinda wondering why he said it took 30 min to do that. then he said 30 min is for no panflute strat while me from the start telling that im using panflute strat, only take 2 days max usually less. welp this convo is all over the place. u should have go and end it like we do. 

[arubaro]

6 minutes ago, prettynuggets said:

yeah i know that. even i do that i wont take more than 4 days in game to do with panflute method. im not sure if u following but from the start i was only talking about me killing bq with panflute and bee keeper hat as armor ???? so i kinda wondering why he said it took 30 min to do that. then he said 30 min is for no panflute strat while me from the start telling that im using panflute strat, only take 2 days max usually less. welp this convo is all over the place. u should have go and end it like we do. 

the other person was talking about kitting, using pan flute is not kitting

[mima_]

54 minutes ago, arubaro said:

the other person was talking about kitting, using pan flute is not kitting

umm maybe because u jump in middle of conversation. btw this will be my last reply for this.
the other person was discussing about my way killing bq because i dont make crown or high tier armor during rush ruins.
then i say panflute with bkeeper hat. that i dont need crown for the fight. he said "but it take more damage than thule crown". then i said u can kite.
he replied but it take too long to kite and take more panflute. he ask again if i took more than 10 hit during fight. while im not sure how much hit i took i said i dont take all the hit i kite what i can. like the first hit after screech can be avoided if u not greedy. 
panflute methode can make u took several hit if u didnt drawback correctly. but surely its not a no hit fight . like i said i kite what i can kite. 
its just simplified what i remember . so its not same word by word .. but i recommend to see few pages back. so u dont ask anymore of this.

[Antynomity]

On 12/7/2023 at 2:24 PM, prettynuggets said:

sure sure pro.

but im sure i use moggles because i hate spending too much time on cave early on . especially if u just wandering for days because wrong biome on wonky cave generation. 
if i rushing i tend to find faster way to ag with moggles. and i dont need magi to fight. if i find star caller in the chest ill just go back up  i dont need walking aimlessly to search for gems for magi or extra thule . even after getting ag killed i can get pearl quest finish by first autumn. 
why would i stuck days in cave ruin rushing just because i wandering too long searching right branch or getting super far labirinth generation just because im too lazy to make moggles 

My point is everyone plays differently so you stating how you play is redundant because clearly the ruins are too easy so that means making them easier with more characters is somehow a good thing, also why would you need magi for the reworked ag? Especially if you find the labirynth before a fixed pseudoscience machine?

[grm9]

13 minutes ago, Antynomity said:

also why would you need magi for the reworked ag?

light in body slot since lightbulbs will get extuinguished before AG dies if you have default damage multiplier 

13 minutes ago, Antynomity said:

Especially if you find the labirynth before a fixed pseudoscience machine?

you can craft magi nearby a broken station too