New DS update.

[mima_]

36 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

99% of people choose DST instead of DS do not pay attention to the fact that this is a TOGETHER game.

nah its only u man. 
its first time i see forumite that hate DS so badly because its base price for amount of content compared to DST. (which is cheaper but have better money revenue on skin sale) 

i myself find DS as its own gem.  
i have own DS and every DLC its offer.
man if they add 10 more paid DLC ill gladly buy it . klei is awesome the game is so cheap but the game itself exceeding most of player expectation (-easy now, im not including u-).
u know why DST is prosper because the love of DS fan that wanting more about this game. this game is built around the community that been gathered way before it even fully called Dont starve we know today. i bet many people here were from the love they feel when play DS that move them into wanting to be inside multiplayer world.

noone forced to buy dst just because its just have more content than DS. heck yeah many of my friend not even thinking about purchasing whole bundle of DS and DST together because the price is so low.

im sorry u find DST first before u taste DS awesome offer, so u feel value of DS have less than DST. 

[Hungry French]

2 hours ago, prettynuggets said:

nah its only u man. 
its first time i see forumite that hate DS so badly because its base price for amount of content compared to DST. (which is cheaper but have better money revenue on skin sale) 

i myself find DS as its own gem.  
i have own DS and every DLC its offer.
man if they add 10 more paid DLC ill gladly buy it . klei is awesome the game is so cheap but the game itself exceeding most of player expectation (-easy now, im not including u-).
u know why DST is prosper because the love of DS fan that wanting more about this game. this game is built around the community that been gathered way before it even fully called Dont starve we know today. i bet many people here were from the love they feel when play DS that move them into wanting to be inside multiplayer world.

noone forced to buy dst just because its just have more content than DS. heck yeah many of my friend not even thinking about purchasing whole bundle of DS and DST together because the price is so low.

im sorry u find DST first before u taste DS awesome offer, so u feel value of DS have less than DST. 

Bro. I'm not hating DS.
I think DS is a good game and cooler than DST, but it has poor replayability, bugs and textures.

But the most important disadvantage of DS is replayability. The DST has a lot of unique content and 2 DLC's. The DS is not big Hamlet and in fact nothing else...

The best plus of DS is a good balance for 1 player.

And the worst is a small amount of content... and it needs to be fixed with dlc

I literally can't adequately choose a game.
There is a lot of exclusive game content in DST, but it is practically unplayable and it is disgusting to play because of the world generation and modified mechanics worse than in DST for solo
The situation is different in DS. The world generation and mechanics are great. But the game is literally 5 times less DST.

Imagine the situation. A DST player comes in to play DS first time
1. He will not see the ocean and oceanic content and lunar rift content...
2.Throughout the game, the player will not find various exclusive DST items, creatures and objects and decorations (and there are a lot of them)...
3.Exploring the surface, he will not find Queen Bee, Eye of Terror, Shadow Pieces and moonstone and and the second desert...
4.The player will become curious and he will go to look for Klaus sack in Deciduous Forest and Mosaic biomes. And he will not find any deer and Klaus sack there and will be even more disappointed...
5. Well, he killed Deerclops and Moose/Goose and he wanted to search for content in caves
6.After a full exploration of the caves, he did not find Nightmare WerePig, ToadStool, Moon Mushroom Forest and Ancient Archive and Big Tentacle do not lead to the Atrium
7.When he returns to the surface, he will not find Antillion in the desert. He lived for about a year and saw all the seasonal bosses (if he was lucky, of course, with a 66% chance of seeing all the bosses). At least there is a Dragon Fly and Moose /Goose in the game.
8.It will go into ruins. Maybe he'll find something there that he didn't find in the ruins. He cleaned up all the ruins and he might well like it. But he didn't find any bosses and DST biomes there and not shadow rifts.
9. After that, the player stands in tulecite gear and thinks about what else to do in the game if there is so little content in it...  Move to Shipwrecked and will not find any unique content that he has not seen in Island Adventures...
10.He will move to Hamlet and his content will please him, although it will seem small to him when compared with the unique content of DST

It's kind of weird that DS+RoG+Shipwrecked consists entirely of frustration for the DST player due to the lack of unique DST content. He may really like Hamlet, but still Hamlet is not as big as DST and it's better to start with it

This is still an ideal case... DST players can stop playing DS at the very beginning or after 20-40 days of exploring the worlds. Or to abandon the game because the seasonal giant did not come to him and he will think that he is not in the game

[mima_]

14 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

It's kind of weird that DS+RoG+Shipwrecked consists entirely of frustration for the DST player due to the lack of unique DST content. He may really like Hamlet, but still Hamlet is not as big as DST and it's better to start with it

maybe better start not by assuming everyone is like u, i have friend that just got invited to DST and then she buy DS because she want wormwood and birdcage skin.
now she having blast doing DS: shipwreked in between time where she cant online for long to play DST. even now she able to survive long time now trying to port her world to hamlet.

ofc if u play only in DS: ROG u will feel its lacking from DST . its been 7 years since DST expanding the story line from those as base game. 
as u can see banana split is tasty cus that added cream and chocolate ice cream as topping . but doesnt mean banana is taste bad on its own .. 

[Hungry French]

3 minutes ago, prettynuggets said:

ofc if u play only in DS: ROG u will feel its lacking from DST . its been 7 years since DST expanding the story line from those as base game.
as u can see banana split is tasty cus that added cream and chocolate ice cream as topping . but doesnt mean banana is taste bad on its own ..

But you choose banana split instead of banana if you have a choice

[mima_]

Just now, Hungry French said:

But you choose banana split instead of banana if you have a choice

THAT IT IS!! instead of crying for DST alone edition . just go and eat the banana split alone!
u cant because what ? too hard? u have mods for that!
laggy ? there is also another mods for that !
on console ? just get a frickin PC if u really really want it!
it would be 100000000 times faster than asking a company to port all DST update for DS in official balanced solo content ! that in my business mind is not a viable in business factor! 
u can do DST solo, either alter the game to ur liking or just git gud its not even hard! 

[Uedo]

2 hours ago, prettynuggets said:

nah its only u man. 
its first time i see forumite that hate DS so badly because its base price for amount of content compared to DST. (which is cheaper but have better money revenue on skin sale) 

i myself find DS as its own gem.  
i have own DS and every DLC its offer.
man if they add 10 more paid DLC ill gladly buy it . klei is awesome the game is so cheap but the game itself exceeding most of player expectation (-easy now, im not including u-).
u know why DST is prosper because the love of DS fan that wanting more about this game. this game is built around the community that been gathered way before it even fully called Dont starve we know today. i bet many people here were from the love they feel when play DS that move them into wanting to be inside multiplayer world.

noone forced to buy dst just because its just have more content than DS. heck yeah many of my friend not even thinking about purchasing whole bundle of DS and DST together because the price is so low.

im sorry u find DST first before u taste DS awesome offer, so u feel value of DS have less than DST. 

well said 

[Hungry French]

35 minutes ago, prettynuggets said:

u can do DST solo, either alter the game to ur liking or just git gud its not even hard!

With the condition of what hard trials I found in other games that spent dozens of hours trying to kill any boss. DST is an easy walk.
I just don't like the changed mechanics and map generation in DST.

At the moment, DS and DST feel like 2 incomplete games... I can't choose which of these to play because they both have colossal disadvantages and each has its own.

It's tearing that we don't have one Don't Starve game it's not fun

The banana split production factory chose the quantity of products instead of quality...

 

35 minutes ago, prettynuggets said:

u can do DST solo, either alter the game to ur liking or just git gud its not even hard!

The game I love is DS + DST = ???

[mima_]

31 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

The banana split production factory chose the quantity of products instead of quality...

nope. its an inovation. evolving banana into something tastier.

here ill tell u a story

once upon the time there is restaurant that sell banana and everyone loving it. then they released a new item called banana split. a perfect banana evolution with many toppings and bigger bananas to share but if u really like it its not a sin to finish whole plate alone!

one day a man come and try their banana menu smash his table and calling their banana trash because the banana split is way better but way too filling for his small tummy. while everyone there in full restaurant staring at him when munching their banana split with their friend. 
and one dude in corner dropped his spoon because he just finished all by himself.
and he cry so loud demanding for all the topping is added back to their old banana menu "but make sure to make it portion not too big just enough for my small tummy" he said because he like the topping but uhh the banana is way too big for him.

everyone stare and said "what a crazy guy", "why would people sell two of same menu as different item just because the banana is too big ??"
instead the manager said why dont we give u a tools so u can split the portion size into your liking, so u can enjoy the smaller bananas in ur split"
and he with big eyes and insisted "no no u dont understand i like old banana and banana split and i demand u add the topping to the old banana so i can enjoy it !!! " 

with confused face the manager just shake his head. he cant really do it for many reason one of them because its not possible since they have their SOP he need to follow the recipe of the restaurant, he just keep going and spouting ******** about how he love the both menu but then in the end insisting the old banana and their banana split is trash anyway.

the end. 
 

[Hungry French]

7 minutes ago, prettynuggets said:

instead the manager said why dont we give u a tools so u can split the portion size into your liking, so u can enjoy the smaller bananas in ur split"


 

In the case of Don't Starve and DST... Klei don't give tools...

I think old banana and banana split are bad banana dishes. And the restaurant needs to come up with something new...

[mima_]

smh the manager said just enjoy your banana split (DST) with tools we provide (mods) if the banana too big for u (to cut boss health to be the same as those solo DS world/bring back old farm etc u rant in 5 last pages). 
but u demand to remake the old banana (DS) where it was a different kind of banana that used in their banana split menu lmao 

if u think the banana (DS) and banana split (DST) is bad dishes, just move on to another game lol

no need to trash talking the game we loved.

[Mike23Ua]

This thread is really confusing, but I do want to remind everyone that Klei said they were done with updates for Solo DS (Not counting small bug fixes) for the foreseeable Future.. this does NOT mean that they’re permanently done with Solo DS, it just means they’re probably focusing more on DST, ONI, RotWood and that new Mind Over Magic or whatever it’s called and want to put all their development time and resources into those.

However the fact they did not say they were completely done with DS forever, makes me have a tiny bit of hope that they will release atleast one more DLC for it the same size & scope of Shipwrecked & Hamlet.

Speaking of SW & Hamlet… DST is literally a Standalone DLC to Don’t Starve, now I don’t know how many of you guys know what a Stand-alone DLC is.. but it means that it is a DLC for the Base Game (in this case DST is a DLC to DS..) that does not require needing to own the Base game to play.

However.. and I’ll use two examples EVERYONE should be mostly familiar with if you DO Own the Base game & also the Standalone DLC then a lot of times you can access content from the base game (or other DLCs for the base game) to interact with the Standalone DLC.

The first of these examples is red dead redemptions Undead Nightmare, if you also owned the poker playing DLC (I forget what that one was called..) you could play Poker while also playing the Undead Nightmare.

The second example is how if you own Borderlands 2, but also own the Standalone DLC Tina’s Assault on Dragonkeep you can unlock new cosmetics in Dragonkeep that transfer back into BL 2.

DST on the other hand… doesn’t do this- which sucks, because I bought DS, I bought Shipwrecked, I bought Hamlet, I bought DST & the some of the newer DLC contents stuff for DST (like characters & skins..) Why can’t I just be Wurt in a Hamlet village while wearing my cute Angler Fish skin???  

PC players get mods that do that, but for those of us on Xbox we have to beg & pray that Klei someday does it in an Official capacity.

And I don’t mean to discredit all the work Klei has poured into DST since 2018.. but a good bit of that content (ever since Eye of the Storm actually..) has been focused purely on the super super late game of DST, (I’ve legit still never been able to activate a proper Moonstorm) When I could be Wurt exploring Hamlet in my Angler skin murdering pigs with my Fishy Hambat skin as early as Day 1. 
 

TL:DR- One more big SW/Hamlet sized DLC for DS would be very appreciated. As well as DST having compatibility with the rest of DS & it’s DLCs.

[MagicalStorm]

6 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Speaking of SW & Hamlet… DST is literally a Standalone DLC to Don’t Starve, now I don’t know how many of you guys know what a Stand-alone DLC is.. but it means that it is a DLC for the Base Game (in this case DST is a DLC to DS..) that does not require needing to own the Base game to play.

No it is not, DS had to be mostly reworked for DST to be even a thing, DST is even called 'a sequel of sorts', that's not DLC, that's another game, and it isn't even compatible with the "base game" (DST is its own base game, it ISN'T DS, the sooner we realize that the better).

Again, DST is its own thing, NOT the same game as DS. This would be like saying Sonic 2 is a standalone DLC for Sonic 1, same franchise and same series but NOT the same experience (unless the company decided to just release the same game with a different name every year). We cannot expect DS to have DST things, just like you can't just expect Sonic 1 to have Sonic 2 things (that said Wurt in Hamlet would feel nice).

Also this thread is just repeating itself again, no matter what is said we aren't gonna get anywhere, I just had to say something after DST was called a DLC, but this will be my last one. Be safe!

[_zwb]

32 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Why can’t I just be Wurt in a Hamlet village while wearing my cute Angler Fish skin???  

Because DS and DST are two separate games. DST is not downloadable content of DS.

[Hungry French]

1 hour ago, prettynuggets said:

smh the manager said just enjoy your banana split (DST) with tools we provide (mods) if the banana too big for u (to cut boss health to be the same as those solo DS world/bring back old farm etc u rant in 5 last pages). 

Not enough tools for banana splits

4 minutes ago, _zwb said:

Because DS and DST are two separate games. DST is not downloadable content of DS.

How much longer will this go on?

[_zwb]

2 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

How much longer will this go on?

Until you realise DST is, by definition, a standalone game. It does not require Don't Starve to run. A DLC of Don't Starve would require Don't Starve base game to run.

[Dextops]

Words words words 

[Hungry French]

29 minutes ago, MagicalStorm said:

Again, DST is its own thing, NOT the same game as DS. This would be like saying Sonic 2 is a standalone DLC for Sonic 1, same franchise and same series but NOT the same experience (unless the company decided to just release the same game with a different name every year). We cannot expect DS to have DST things, just like you can't just expect Sonic 1 to have Sonic 2 things (that said Wurt in Hamlet would feel nice).

DS is Sonic 3.

DST is Sonic 3 and Knuckles

Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 are different games.

DST literally copies the content of DS and RoG lol
 

9 minutes ago, _zwb said:

Until you realise DST is, by definition, a standalone game. It does not require Don't Starve to run. A DLC of Don't Starve would require Don't Starve base game to run.

No. When will DST and DS cease to be separate games ?

14 minutes ago, _zwb said:

Until you realise DST is, by definition, a standalone game. It does not require Don't Starve to run. A DLC of Don't Starve would require Don't Starve base game to run.

"Don't Starve Together is the standalone multiplayer expansion of the uncompromising wilderness survival game". Expansion 

[Mike23Ua]

17 minutes ago, _zwb said:

Until you realise DST is, by definition, a standalone game. It does not require Don't Starve to run. A DLC of Don't Starve would require Don't Starve base game to run.

This is beyond false… lol, like.. did you not read anything I said?

here maybe this will help:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-alone#:~:text=Stand-alone expansion pack%2C an,to use the new content
 

In every sense of the word- it is still very much a DLC for the first game.

https://www.giantbomb.com/standalone-dlc-release/3015-8663/games/
 

So what is DST??? What does the XBOX official store consider the game to be? 
 

https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/dont-starve-together-console-edition/bq7nmrjt1nq4

[lowercase skye]

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

Speaking of SW & Hamlet… DST is literally a Standalone DLC to Don’t Starve, now I don’t know how many of you guys know what a Stand-alone DLC is.. but it means that it is a DLC for the Base Game (in this case DST is a DLC to DS..) that does not require needing to own the Base game to play.

However.. and I’ll use two examples EVERYONE should be mostly familiar with if you DO Own the Base game & also the Standalone DLC then a lot of times you can access content from the base game (or other DLCs for the base game) to interact with the Standalone DLC.

This is a very understandable thought process Mike, but the integral difference is (as you've stated) that DST cannot be accessed from within DS in any way, and is exclusively listed as a standalone game, and thus inherently does not fit the label of DLC.

12 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

So what is DST??? What does the XBOX official store consider the game to be?

https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/dont-starve-together-console-edition/bq7nmrjt1nq4

A standalone game that can be purchased in a bundle with other Don't Starve series games, according to the link you provided. Steam does this too, it's just that they want you to buy a bundle that has all the games in it for $30 instead of buying just DST for $15.

[_zwb]

31 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

No. When will DST and DS cease to be separate games ?

Ask Klei not me.

18 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

This is beyond false… lol, like.. did you not read anything I said?

here maybe this will help:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-alone#:~:text=Stand-alone expansion pack%2C an,to use the new content
 

In every sense of the word- it is still very much a DLC for the first game.

https://www.giantbomb.com/standalone-dlc-release/3015-8663/games/

The first part of@finn from human's comment explained what I was trying to say

17 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

What does the XBOX official store consider the game to be? 

Action & adventure game

[Sanitar]

Personally, I hope that Don't starve 2 will be released without the problems described by Hungry French. He really raises the real DST issues, but he does it in a strange way.

Personally, I hope if Don't starve 2 comes out, then there will be all DLC, multiplayer, of course skins, DST content, balance for one player, balance for several players, good optimization.

Not all problems can be solved with mods. The same Hamlet has not yet been made for DST, and to travel between worlds in island adventure, you need to conduct a mega complex ritual to launch a dedicated server.

[Thalkas]

I'm not sure if I want any new DLC for Don't Starve after Hamlet. I know a lot of people like third DLC but ugh for me it's the worst DLC without cohesion.

RoG? Extension for default game, great new bosses, smooth connection between biomes, Underground and Ruins.

Shipwrecked? Awesome ship mechanic, islands with one of few biomes, few remade good know monsters, Volcano.

Hamlet? Town of human-like pigs next to "deadly" jungle. Own home, nice skipping most of enemies. Economy? How to get strong items with cutting hedge. Biomes are empty, new dishes are dead 'cause you can buy food, planning own big world into save-zone home, jungle and rainforest without bigger problem to beat, quick exploration of "ruins". Also overpowered armor to use once for fight nothing because it's drops from the biggest enemy of whole DLC, ah sure Harold. This DLC is just empty and blank.

 

I'm kinda sad because Klei hard pushing content into DST but it's quicker to do than in DS. DS is just older and something doesn't work same as DST. If more people will go to rewrite DST content into singleplayer than both game will be dead for sometime. One for no content because samller team, second no content because need to redo "newer" to "older". Also DST has own rich history when DS stopped on history with Max and it's end when any other character took throne.

[Hungry French]

58 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

This thread is really confusing, but I do want to remind everyone that Klei said they were done with updates for Solo DS (Not counting small bug fixes) for the foreseeable Future.. this does NOT mean that they’re permanently done with Solo DS, it just means they’re probably focusing more on DST, ONI, RotWood and that new Mind Over Magic or whatever it’s called and want to put all their development time and resources into those.

However the fact they did not say they were completely done with DS forever, makes me have a tiny bit of hope that they will release atleast one more DLC for it the same size & scope of Shipwrecked & Hamlet.

Well. It gives hope

 

59 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Speaking of SW & Hamlet… DST is literally a Standalone DLC to Don’t Starve, now I don’t know how many of you guys know what a Stand-alone DLC is.. but it means that it is a DLC for the Base Game (in this case DST is a DLC to DS..) that does not require needing to own the Base game to play.

However.. and I’ll use two examples EVERYONE should be mostly familiar with if you DO Own the Base game & also the Standalone DLC then a lot of times you can access content from the base game (or other DLCs for the base game) to interact with the Standalone DLC.

The first of these examples is red dead redemptions Undead Nightmare, if you also owned the poker playing DLC (I forget what that one was called..) you could play Poker while also playing the Undead Nightmare.

The second example is how if you own Borderlands 2, but also own the Standalone DLC Tina’s Assault on Dragonkeep you can unlock new cosmetics in Dragonkeep that transfer back into BL 2.

People just call it a sequel as DLC. Probably never seen that standalone DLC's can continue the plot of the original source. Although the number of plot holes between DST and DS is incalculable

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

DST on the other hand… doesn’t do this- which sucks, because I bought DS, I bought Shipwrecked, I bought Hamlet, I bought DST & the some of the newer DLC contents stuff for DST (like characters & skins..) Why can’t I just be Wurt in a Hamlet village while wearing my cute Angler Fish skin???  

I want to use obsidian spear, against DST bosses in winter. Or Living Artifact. Or Dripple Pipes for killing any bosses and DST (Dragon Fly) creatures.

And... I want updates for Shipwrecked and Hamlet...

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

And I don’t mean to discredit all the work Klei has poured into DST since 2018.. but a good bit of that content (ever since Eye of the Storm actually..) has been focused purely on the super super late game of DST, (I’ve legit still never been able to activate a proper Moonstorm) When I could be Wurt exploring Hamlet in my Angler skin murdering pigs with my Fishy Hambat skin as early as Day 1. 

Super super late game - this is exactly what is missing in DS

 

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

TL:DR- One more big SW/Hamlet sized DLC for DS would be very appreciated. As well as DST having compatibility with the rest of DS & it’s DLCs.

Well. If DST is compatible with Shipwrecked and Hamlet, then compatibility with DS and HORN will not be difficult to do

33 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

In every sense of the word- it is still very much a DLC for the first game.

For some reason, people are not confused that DST copies the content of DS and RoG.  After all, sequels are created to do something new, and not to copy the old...

23 minutes ago, finn from human said:

This is a very understandable thought process Mike, but the integral difference is (as you've stated) that DST cannot be accessed from within DS in any way, and is exclusively listed as a standalone game, and thus inherently does not fit the label of DLC.

Therefore, there is such a definition as Standalone DLC (expansion) - an expansion pack which does not require the original game in order to use the new content

22 minutes ago, _zwb said:

Ask Klei not me.

Sounds cool

21 minutes ago, Sanitar said:

Personally, I hope if Don't starve 2 comes out, then there will be all DLC, multiplayer, of course skins, DST content, balance for one player, balance for several players, good optimization.

Looks like a dream that is worth waiting for

[Sanitar]

24 minutes ago, Thalkas said:

I'm not sure if I want any new DLC for Don't Starve after Hamlet. I know a lot of people like third DLC but ugh for me it's the worst DLC without cohesion.

RoG? Extension for default game, great new bosses, smooth connection between biomes, Underground and Ruins.

Shipwrecked? Awesome ship mechanic, islands with one of few biomes, few remade good know monsters, Volcano.

Hamlet? Town of human-like pigs next to "deadly" jungle. Own home, nice skipping most of enemies. Economy? How to get strong items with cutting hedge. Biomes are empty, new dishes are dead 'cause you can buy food, planning own big world into save-zone home, jungle and rainforest without bigger problem to beat, quick exploration of "ruins". Also overpowered armor to use once for fight nothing because it's drops from the biggest enemy of whole DLC, ah sure Harold. This DLC is just empty and blank.

 

I'm kinda sad because Klei hard pushing content into DST but it's quicker to do than in DS. DS is just older and something doesn't work same as DST. If more people will go to rewrite DST content into singleplayer than both game will be dead for sometime. One for no content because samller team, second no content because need to redo "newer" to "older". Also DST has own rich history when DS stopped on history with Max and it's end when any other character took throne.

Hamlet gives a unique experience. Although it's easy for an experienced player (a Hamlet player, not a DS), it's still cool. New dishes are always dead in all DLC and including DST.

[Hungry French]

19 minutes ago, Thalkas said:

Hamlet? Town of human-like pigs next to "deadly" jungle. Own home, nice skipping most of enemies. Economy? How to get strong items with cutting hedge. Biomes are empty, new dishes are dead 'cause you can buy food, planning own big world into save-zone home, jungle and rainforest without bigger problem to beat, quick exploration of "ruins". Also overpowered armor to use once for fight nothing because it's drops from the biggest enemy of whole DLC, ah sure Harold. This DLC is just empty and blank.

Shipwrecked is more empty. Only 3 bosses and alter tree guard.
Biomes are the second variation of DS biomes. Volcano... According to the idea, it should be similar to Ruins...
But it is both smaller and less diverse than ruins.
Hamlet is the largest DS DLC.
Although I value RoG more because filling an empty DS world is more valuable than creating a new empty world.

Moving to Shipwrecked and Hamlet is an interesting thing...
But it would really work only in DST, because there are a lot of raid bosses and a very large map, which is why useful Shipwrecked and Hamlet items would help a lot.

If you want to move into the DLC before staying at least 1-2 years in RoG. But by this time, all the seasonal bosses and ruins will be defeated and the Shipwrecked and Hamlet content is superfluous...

 

33 minutes ago, Thalkas said:

I'm kinda sad because Klei hard pushing content into DST but it's quicker to do than in DS. DS is just older and something doesn't work same as DST. If more people will go to rewrite DST content into singleplayer than both game will be dead for sometime. One for no content because samller team, second no content because need to redo "newer" to "older". Also DST has own rich history when DS stopped on history with Max and it's end when any other character took throne.

If content updates or DLC appear in the DS, although very infrequently, then it's already good. But 4 years of downtime is scary...
In 3 years, DST will have a 10-year anniversary.
Maybe then something will happen. Or in another 5 years

What are your bets on how long Klei will continue to support DST ?