Large-scale Skill Tree Wickerbottom

[Keknutui]

Hello everyone. 

While the developers are starting to make skill trees, I would like to tell and show my idea of the skills of a librarian.

I've been playing for her for several years now, and after remaking Maxwell, I was upset that she was only being taken to create books for another character.

I warn you in advance that I am not a native speaker and I do everything through a translator : )

 

BOOKS

Left branch:

•Vigilant review:
Wickerbottom restores books in the library by 1% in 7.5 seconds.

•Paper pest:
After reading any book, there is a 25% chance of spawn of a book tick having 750 hp and running around distracting mobs for 20 seconds. The timer starts when Wickerbottom starts fighting. Stop for a few seconds.

• A book before going to bed:

At night you spend less strength when reading. (by 5-15%)

•Repetition is the Mother of Teaching:

When reading the same book, there is a small chance that it will not spend its strength, but the timer resets if Wickerbottom reads another book.

Middle branch:

•Book potential 1:
With a 20% chance, the effect of a book read becomes more effective.

•Book potential 2:
With a 40% chance, the effect of a read book becomes more effective.

•Knowledge = Strength:

You can beat the book losing 1.5 of your mind, while restoring 1-2 of the strength of the book.

•Portable library:
Wickerbottom is able to repair her books at a rate of 1% in 60 seconds.
(backpack does not count)

Right branch:

•Newspaper clippings about fires:

The book the end is near hits 20 lightning bolts and targets only mobs and bosses
Explanation of pyrokinesis increased radius of action.

•Immersion: Wickerbottom is able to create a new book:

Encyclopedia of Shells.
Crafting: 2 papyri and a shell
A gust of wind appears next to Wickerbottom, which slightly accelerates her and the characters close to her by 15% and accelerates the raft by 50% for 4 minutes.

•Entomology for beginners:

The book on arachnophobia will eventually become mobs in the web (Like Maxwell's prison, but if the mob is idle on it for 10 seconds, and you have to wait another 10 seconds for a repeat effect)
The book on beekeeping for reuse treats all nearby drones by 60 hp

•Animal world:

Books about birds around the world and a Guide to the survival of the angler create birds / fish of different species, regardless of the biome.

A sketch with the skill of BOOKS:

 

WISDOM

The first skill:

A random blueprint is created for papyrus and a fountain pencil

Left Skill:

•Feline affection:

Wickerbottom restores 6.6 sanity per minute near the cat (as with a glommer), and cats will drop a rarer loot when feeding.

•Knowledge of survival:

Wickerbottom is better with a net, sewing kit, traps, brush, fishing rod, etc. (Spend less strength on them)

•School courses:

Wickerbottom is able to get 5-10 sanity if the player next to her crafts something. The effect is triggered once a minute (works separately for each player for Wickerbottom)

• Silence:

Hostile mobs pay less attention to her and focus more on players, minions and other mobs

Right Skill:

•Graph Builder:
Wickerbottom is able to create a station for creating blueprints like to a seasoning Warly where you need to put a papyrus and a drawing
A normal duplicated day
From boss 1.5

•Lots of papers:
The station will create blueprints for 0.5 days and from bosses 1.25 days

•A lot of papers 2:
The station will create blueprints for 0.5 days and with bosses for 1 day

•Knowledge of economics:

Wickerbottom is able with a 33.3% chance not to spend items from crafting materials like boards, stone blocks or thulecite

 

A sketch with the skill of WISDOM:

 

AFFINITY

•Shadow deal - reading books does not generate shadow creatures, and things that take away reason take away only 50% of their original meaning

 

•Moon branch - reading during the full moon strengthens mobs summoned with the help of books, like bees or tentacles, and the end is near when reading creates lunar glimpses and charged lunar glasses

(I think it was possible to add lunar amplification for all books)

 

 

Thank you so much for some ideas and illustrations! @Создатель Swamps 

Write your opinion or suggestions about it, I will be glad to read.

 

[Jakepeng99]

Alot of these are cool ideas, even if a few translated and i have no clue what they do such as the drawing one.

1 hour ago, Keknutui said:

Books about birds around the world and a Guide to the survival of the angler create birds / fish of different species, regardless of the biome.

Also this one feels like a pure downside for both books, and only makes the already op cannonball fish farm even more op. You can no longer spawn specific birds using turfs and it is harder to find the fish you are looking for.

[ShadowDuelist]

Those are good ideas. I’d add 2 more things:
 

1) I think she needs some affinity with general non book-magic as well, as she is a very magic oriented character. Something like consuming  no sanity when using non-book magic items (staves and such) as long as her sanity Pool is above 50%

2) I think she needs to have an advanced perk of repairing books using papyrus. Something like 50% restored per papyrus used. The reason is: A library free restoration over time would still be cheaper and better, specially early game.
Once you reach mid game or late game the papyrus just stockpile since you always use the same books. It would be better if she could carry and use her books at will, and repair them on the go as Maxwell does.

[Jakepeng99]

1 minute ago, ShadowDuelist said:

1) I think she needs some affinity with general non book-magic as well, as she is a very magic oriented character. Something like consuming  no sanity when using non-book magic items (staves and such) as long as her sanity Pool is above 50%

We have Maxwell and Wanda for that though.

2 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

2) I think she needs to have an advanced perk of repairing books using papyrus. Something like 50% restored per papyrus used. The reason is: A library free restoration over time would still be cheaper and better, specially early game.
Once you reach mid game or late game the papyrus just stockpile since you always use the same books. It would be better if she could carry and use her books at will, and repair them on the go as Maxwell does.

Repairing using feather pens would be cool.

[Keknutui]

11 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Многие из этих идей классные, даже если некоторые переведены, и я понятия не имею, что они делают, например, рисование.

Кроме того, это кажется чистым недостатком обеих книг, и только делает уже действующую рыбную ферму cannonball fish farm еще более популярной. Вы больше не можете создавать определенных птиц, используя дерн, и вам сложнее найти рыбу, которую вы ищете.

Thanks for the explanation. Instead of drawings, it meant the ability to duplicate blueprints from bosses and create new ones

[Creatorofswamps]

1 hour ago, Keknutui said:

Hello everyone. 

While the developers are starting to make skill trees, I would like to tell and show my idea of the skills of a librarian.

I've been playing for her for several years now, and after remaking Maxwell, I was upset that she was only being taken to create books for another character.

I warn you in advance that I am not a native speaker and I do everything through a translator : )

 

BOOKS

Left branch:

•Vigilant review:
Wickerbottom restores books in the library by 1% in 7.5 seconds.

•Paper pest:
After reading any book, there is a 25% chance of spawn of a book tick having 750 hp and running around distracting mobs for 20 seconds. The timer starts when Wickerbottom starts fighting. Stop for a few seconds.

• A book before going to bed:

At night you spend less strength when reading. (by 5-15%)

•Repetition is the Mother of Teaching:

When reading the same book, there is a small chance that it will not spend its strength, but the timer resets if Wickerbottom reads another book.

Middle branch:

•Book potential 1:
With a 20% chance, the effect of a book read becomes more effective.

•Book potential 2:
With a 40% chance, the effect of a read book becomes more effective.

•Knowledge = Strength:

You can beat the book losing 1.5 of your mind, while restoring 1-2 of the strength of the book.

•Portable library:
Wickerbottom is able to repair her books at a rate of 1% in 60 seconds.
(backpack does not count)

Right branch:

•Newspaper clippings about fires:

The book the end is near hits 20 lightning bolts and targets only mobs and bosses
Explanation of pyrokinesis increased radius of action.

•Immersion: Wickerbottom is able to create a new book:

Encyclopedia of Shells.
Crafting: 2 papyri and a shell
A gust of wind appears next to Wickerbottom, which slightly accelerates her and the characters close to her by 15% and accelerates the raft by 50% for 4 minutes.

•Entomology for beginners:

The book on arachnophobia will eventually become mobs in the web (Like Maxwell's prison, but if the mob is idle on it for 10 seconds, and you have to wait another 10 seconds for a repeat effect)
The book on beekeeping for reuse treats all nearby drones by 60 hp

•Animal world:

Books about birds around the world and a Guide to the survival of the angler create birds / fish of different species, regardless of the biome.

A sketch with the skill of BOOKS:

 

WISDOM

The first skill:

A random drawing is created for papyrus and a fountain pencil

Left Skill:

•Feline affection:

Wickerbottom restores 6.6 sanity per minute near the cat (as with a glommer), and cats will drop a rarer loot when feeding.

•Knowledge of survival:

Wickerbottom is better with a net, sewing kit, traps, brush, fishing rod, etc. (Spend less strength on them)

•School courses:

Wickerbottom is able to get 5-10 sanity if the player next to her crafts something. The effect is triggered once a minute (works separately for each player for Wickerbottom)

• Silence:

Hostile mobs pay less attention to her and focus more on players, minions and other mobs

Right Skill:

•Graph Builder:
Wickerbottom is able to create a station for creating drawings similar to a seasoning varley where you need to put a papyrus and a drawing
A normal duplicated day
From boss 1.5

•Lots of papers:
The station will create drawings for 0.5 days and from bosses 1.25 days

•A lot of papers 2:
The station will create drawings for 0.5 days and with bosses for 1 day

•Knowledge of economics:

Wickerbottom is able with a 33.3% chance not to spend items from crafting materials like boards, stone blocks or thulecite

 

A sketch with the skill of WISDOM:

 

AFFINITY

•Shadow deal - reading books does not generate shadow creatures, and things that take away reason take away only 50% of their original meaning

 

•Moon branch - reading during the full moon strengthens mobs summoned with the help of books, like bees or tentacles, and the end is near when reading creates lunar glimpses and charged lunar glasses

(I think it was possible to add lunar amplification for all books)

 

 

Thank you so much for some ideas and illustrations! @Создатель Swamps 

Write your opinion or suggestions about it, I will be glad to read.

I really like the ideas you suggestedI also hope that people will like the ideas I have suggested here. Especially the book pest)

[Golden Daemon]

I find it puzzling that Wickerbottom, who has the entire contents of the library she used to manage ingrained in her memory thanks to Maxwell's deal, still needs to read her books to access its content?
Isn't the entire purpose of books to share knowledge from the writer to the reader? not to serve as a personal reminder that only the writer (and oddly enough, one other guy and a fish) can understand?
Maybe she should have a talent in her skill tree where she gains a slot or two that can be used to memorize one of her favorite books completely, increasing the sanity cost for using it (since shes recalling the content), but eliminating the material cost.

Also i would really like for her books to finally be usable by other characters (besides that one guy and the fish).
Maybe they could use a weaker version or the same book with reduced effects.
After all, libraries are meant to store knowledge for everyone's benefit.

I know this might create a similar problem to Winona (where people play her only for her crafts and not for her character), so that's why I suggest making them less powerful than Wickerbottom's own books, meaning that existence of wicker herself is required to make good longterm use of the books.

And not to mention, one of my favorite books is The Everything Encyclopedia, and it works exactly how I want her books to work. It's her reading the book to herself and everyone around her, not just her reciting the magic words making the world obey and do magic stuff.

 

Aside from the skill tree, the moment i saw the scrap book ive always felt like this shouldve been something that is written entirely in wickerbottoms style with her personal , with her personal remarks and insights (after all, it's a wiki!). But it seems to be more in Wilson's style, which is fine, but a wasted opportunity.

Also, I've seen some mods that let you access the plant registry and the cookbook without having the cookbook in your inventory, and I think this should have been a Wickerbottom exclusive feature in the base game. It just makes sense for someone who has an entire library in her brain.

[Keknutui]

1 hour ago, Golden Daemon said:

Я нахожу озадачивающим, что Викерботтом, в памяти которой благодаря сделке Максвелла сохранилось все содержимое библиотеки, которой она управляла, все еще нуждается в чтении ее книг, чтобы получить доступ к ее содержимому?
Разве цель книг не в том, чтобы передавать знания от автора к читателю? не для того ли, чтобы служить личным напоминанием, которое может понять только писатель (и, как ни странно, еще один парень и рыба)?
Возможно, у нее должен быть талант в ее дереве умений, где она получает один или два слота, которые можно использовать для полного запоминания одной из ее любимых книг, увеличивая затраты на здравомыслие за его использование (поскольку она запоминает содержание), но исключая материальные затраты.

Также мне бы очень хотелось, чтобы ее книгами, наконец, могли пользоваться другие персонажи (кроме того, одного парня и рыбы).
Возможно, они могли бы использовать более слабую версию или ту же книгу с уменьшенными эффектами.
В конце концов, библиотеки предназначены для хранения знаний на благо всех.

Я знаю, что это может создать проблему, подобную Вайноне (где люди играют в нее только из-за ее ремесел, а не из-за ее персонажа), поэтому я предлагаю сделать их менее мощными, чем книги Викерботтома, а это означает, что для долгосрочного использования книг требуется существование самой Уикер.

И не говоря уже о том, что одна из моих любимых книг - "Энциклопедия всего", и она работает именно так, как я хочу, чтобы работали ее книги. Она читает книгу самой себе и всем вокруг, а не просто произносит волшебные слова, заставляющие мир повиноваться и творить волшебные вещи.

 

Помимо дерева умений, в тот момент, когда я увидел альбом для вырезок, я всегда чувствовал, что это должно было быть что-то, написанное полностью в стиле Викерботтом, с ее личными замечаниями и инсайтами (в конце концов, это вики!). Но, похоже, это больше в стиле Уилсона, что прекрасно, но упущенная возможность.

Кроме того, я видел несколько модов, которые позволяют получить доступ к реестру растений и кулинарной книге, не имея поваренной книги в инвентаре, и я думаю, что это должно было стать эксклюзивной функцией Wickerbottom в базовой игре. Это имеет смысл только для тех, у кого в мозгу целая библиотека.

It sounds interesting, but that's what can devalue a character. Wickerbottom has too few advantages or unique features with which you are ready to play for her, and not for the same Maxwell. Adding weakened books won't really make Wickerbottom superior to others, because there are the same bookcases that will endlessly repair books.

[ShadowDuelist]

4 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

We have Maxwell and Wanda for that though.

Maxwell and old Wanda seem both more fixated to shadow magic than general magic. Wicker could be more of a jack of all trades magic as she mostly focuses on controlling the elements and the constant’s nature 

[Creatorofswamps]

20 hours ago, ShadowDuelist said:

Maxwell and old Wanda seem both more fixated to shadow magic than general magic. Wicker could be more of a jack of all trades magic as she mostly focuses on controlling the elements and the constant’s nature 

Good. I guess her books are a separate kind of magic.

If that could be the case, she could spend less time using staffs

[Dr. Safety]

I like the ideas. I think she should have a perk that allows her to choose where to cast the books to give some more utility to some books (like On Tentacles and the spider one) as well as give her unique interactions that Maxwell doesn't have

[Dr.Webber]

I think it would be cool if for her affinities she could make a shadow and lunar version of apiculture notes making new mobs called shadow/lunar  book bees she can apply different books to give them different powers and they don’t switch sides when fighting bee queen 

[Creatorofswamps]

On 10/17/2023 at 12:53 AM, Dr.Webber said:

I think I would be cool if for her affinities she could make a shadow and lunar version of apiculture notes making new mobs called shadow/lunar  book bees she can apply different books to give them different powers and they don’t switch sides when fighting bee queen 

[Creatorofswamps]

@MrMNWormI am interested in your opinion about this concept, given that you say that Wickerbottom is more of a summoner

[MrMNWorm]

I did read this when it originally posted and there are some ideas I built off from it. I will say this proposal enhances her role as a "wise librarian" role than her "summoner" role. But here are the things I built off of:

Increased effectiveness
- I just made that more specific for the gardening books being able to effect more plants and the duration of light from Lux Aeterna and Lux Aeterna Redux.

A Book Bag that can restore her books durability, just gave it a recipe... I like this because of one of the new books I dreamed up for her is useful for the Ruins. It has a high cost on durability so it would be nice to regen that while walking around. Would also be nice for a couple of her other books to make it more feasible to use books more often and effectively.

Then I also like the idea of being able to Copy Blueprints but I tossed that idea in the Winona Ideas Bin since it kind of makes sense for an Engineer to be able to make Blueprints. Winona could really use some big perks and I think being able to copy Blueprints would be a huge win for her.