I am Deeply confused about Woodies Skill Tree..

[Nnumber3]

40 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Okay so it turns out I didn’t realize he had another skill, making the cost of crafting planks cheaper. I apologize for originally missing this.. and had thought I needed to invest a skill point into a Useless skill slot to unlock the ability to craft Hats & Canes.

However… Woodie still has several glaring issues I would LOVE to see addressed (especially since Klei Fixed up Wormwoods skill tree all nice & pretty like after community feedback)

My first issue With Werebeavers Mastery, it takes 4 Skill Points to unlock his Tail Slam the description reads it will destroy everything around him.. but that’s not entirely true, It’s Situational at best, and currently the BEST situation I’ve found a use for it for is this:

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However.. with 4 points investment I’d love it if the Beavers Tail Slam could also destroy Spider Nests, Bee Hives, Hound Mounds, Etc (but still remaining to be highly ineffective in combat against the angry spiders that come out the nests etc..)

My next issue is with the cheaper planks perk, this is sooooo obscure I didn’t even NOTICE it exists, mostly because A: If you Pin Planks to your Quick Crafting Tab, you still spend 4 wood to make a plank instead of 3.. and B: You need to Unequip Lucy to craft these planks by opening up your Craft UI Menu and clicking on survivor skills and then (only while Lucy isn’t in hand slot..) Crafting Cheaper Planks.

This Skill in its current form absolutely freaking sucks, the entire point of putting planks in my Quick Craft Tabs was to Quickly Craft them, and Woodies skill does the exact OPPOSITE of that…

I would instead suggest we remove this perk entirely and give Woodie something more meaningful, and I have just the suggestion to request…

Ive been being ruthlessly attacked by normally peaceful Bunnymen in Caves for the past hour, but it took me quite a while to figure out WHY…

They will Attack Woodie if he has an Itchy Idol in his Inventory (I guess cause they originally needed meat to craft and spoiled over time..) Bunnymen won’t attack him if he’s carrying around Treeguard Idols, it’s only his Wereform Totems that get him Mauled over…

So my suggestion is to remove the highly obscure, highly ineffective cheaper plank craft and give him something actually useful, such as a perk that Masks the Scent of his Wereform Idols so these darn Bunnymen stop ruthlessly trying to attack him while carrying them!

Finally I want to bring up one more glaring issue but this is more of a Game Mechanics issue and less a Woodie specific one.. 

You need to for whatever dumb reason… Unequip Lucy from the hand slot to craft the Cheaper Planks, Wooden Hats, and Wooden Walking Canes.

This is painful to do on Console with an Xbox controller and has actually lead to me being killed once or twice.

Its not just a Woodie issue though, you can’t craft for example a Thermal Stone if the Pickaxe is in your hand slot…

This Really needs to be addressed in a future QOL patch.

the tail slam is meant for big clumps of trees and mining the lunar rift crystals really fast, and since i can't download the video for some reason I assume it's the latter as you sent a similar video yesterday about woodie and the tail slam. its not the best but decent in making him chop trees pretty fast in the right circumstances in early game, as his rival, (maxwell) needs to be insane to chop trees as fast as possible, and nightmares will bother you making collecting time much slower.

The cheaper board thing is your fault as you can just... read the text? like just open the crafting menu and look at it, its like the Forth item on the crafting menu survivor tab. the lucy holding thing is fine as its not too inconvenient.

the craft is made out of monster meat and you eat it, what did you expect? monster meat is visable in the picture of the idols.

the skill point you suggested is so niche that boards are better lol

also how would you die to that  were you fighting with lucy?

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49 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

its not the best but decent in making him chop trees pretty fast in the right circumstances in early game

It's actually not very efficient unless your spamming multiple idols in most circumstances because even if it's a bit lower you'll chop far more trees just using his mining and chopping normally with the earlier skills.

49 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

as his rival, (maxwell) needs to be insane to chop trees as fast as possible, and nightmares will bother you making collecting time much slower.

Maxwell already out paces Woodie without going insane due to them simply doing all the tasks and collections while the beaver is focused on just the breaking down aspect. Also once he gets the bone helm he can use all of them without regard for his sanity if you're really concerned about using his max output.

 

49 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

the tail slam is meant for big clumps of trees and mining the lunar rift crystals really fast

The beaver actually mines this very fast without the slap and the moose's 4th ability is far more useful at this point in the game(or any point really)

Honestly if there ever a change to be made I feel like they need to remove the wereness cost of the tail slam.

 

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

My next issue is with the cheaper planks perk, this is sooooo obscure I didn’t even NOTICE it exists, mostly because A: If you Pin Planks to your Quick Crafting Tab, you still spend 4 wood to make a plank instead of 3.. and B: You need to Unequip Lucy to craft these planks by opening up your Craft UI Menu and clicking on survivor skills and then (only while Lucy isn’t in hand slot..) Crafting Cheaper Planks.

It's because they're separate crafts you can pin Woodie's version to your tab as well.