New-ish player asking for character recommendations for public server play

[ALCRD]

9 minutes ago, KeshS said:

I can't tell if you are trolling.

Not an argument.

9 minutes ago, KeshS said:

He also doesn't restore sanity from items like tam o shanter.

He doesn't need it for sanity.

Also what happened to this:

*tsk* *tsk*

[Gashzer]

1 minute ago, KeshS said:

He also doesn't restore sanity from items like tam o shanter.

 

I can't tell if you are trolling. Sacrificing a head slot to only reduce sanity hit from half to a quarter is just terrible...

Why would you sacrifice your headslot to a tam..... walter has no need for sanity gaining clothes. He only needs to wear the pinetree pioneer hat during combat or if badly hurt. 

I can now wear a beefalo hat instead of a tam and still have functionally infinite sanity.

Its every other character that has to sacrifice their headslot to wearing a tam to prevent insanity.

Walter is 100% more free to wear more head gear than others. Walter can wear ice cube hat in summer without the worrying about going insane from wetness. Can use eyebrella to combat cave rain in both spring and winter without going insane.

I just dont understand how you dont understand the points me and ALCRD are making 

[Mike23Ua]

Just remember that characters have an intended difficulty/skill curve- which is exactly why the “Odds of Survival” exists, some characters will be easier/harder than others to learn- and the Odds of Survival is Klei’s official way of telling what character is intended to exist where on that podium. Personal skill level aside of course, cause once you learn a character some may actually end up being easier for you then Klei’s chart says they would be.

Just- Don’t make a mistake and buy a character you can’t play as/won’t enjoy… 

[Mysterious box]

On 5/24/2023 at 9:36 AM, ALCRD said:

Why not? He actually has a lot of helpful stuff in his kit to help newcomers.

True but...

 

On 5/24/2023 at 9:36 AM, ALCRD said:

His sanity penalty might be annoying but in addition to that penalty you get no passive sanity drain from dark , caves , monster and several abilities and items in his kit restore sanity so that penalty is more than bearable / fairly easy to counter.

His sanity penalty is what makes him a bad pick for new players as they get hit far more often than the average player in combat and generally can't handle his unique death spiral. He's a good pick for casual players not beginners and there is a difference.

On 5/23/2023 at 8:15 AM, ALCRD said:

Your mistake was using the Slingshot as a weapon :P instead of a utility.

It absolutely sucks and is very expensive to use as a weapon but it's quite good as an utility.

It's actually pretty crappy as a utility tool as well with one of the utility rounds being straight up worse than the normal variant.

Slowdown rounds are really good in practice but they're expensive for what they do even more so compared to other crowd control options.

Poop pellets are held back by firing speed and the diffculties changing targets.

Freeze rounds are more or less a worse ice staff.

[KeshS]

45 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

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I am saying putting pioneer hat into a head slot is a bad trade. Ok, you want to fight, so you put a pioneer hat in head slot, so you can't equip head protection items like a football hat. Your only other choice is body armor, alright. So, you essentially trade it for an 8 slot backpack. One argument is you CAN still run a backpack, but in order to do so you have to drop it to equip body armor, which makes it vulnerable to stealing in public servers. But what about Woby? Well, she suffers the same plague as the unmonitored backpack in that anyone can also rummage through it, making it an unsafe storage. What we have is, you are trying to justify that a quarter reduction from penalty to sanity is better than having an 8 slot inventory. yeah, No thanks.

[Gashzer]

2 hours ago, KeshS said:

I am saying putting pioneer hat into a head slot is a bad trade. Ok, you want to fight, so you put a pioneer hat in head slot, so you can't equip head protection items like a football hat. Your only other choice is body armor, alright. So, you essentially trade it for an 8 slot backpack. One argument is you CAN still run a backpack, but in order to do so you have to drop it to equip body armor, which makes it vulnerable to stealing in public servers. But what about Woby? Well, she suffers the same plague as the unmonitored backpack in that anyone can also rummage through it, making it an unsafe storage. What we have is, you are trying to justify that a quarter reduction from penalty to sanity is better than having an 8 slot inventory. yeah, No thanks.

Well, i never had any issue with backpack stealing or stealing from woby ever in all my years of playing public servers... riding woby prevents anyone accessing her inventory and you are not gonna have someone lurking in a bush beside you at all times waiting to steal your backpack when you drop it for a fight. Like if someone is bein weird beside you and you dont know them just ride woby until they leave. 

2 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

His sanity penalty is what makes him a bad pick for new players as they get hit far more often than the average player in combat and generally can't handle his unique death spiral. He's a good pick for casual players not beginners and there is a difference.

Tbh beginners cant handle any character at all. The sanity meter is a ticking time bomb for them. Atleast if a new player decides to join a public server they can camp at base as Walter for longer without going insane eventually then dying.

[Mysterious box]

12 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Tbh beginners cant handle any character at all. The sanity meter is a ticking time bomb for them. Atleast if a new player decides to join a public server they can camp at base as Walter for longer without going insane eventually then dying.

I disagree some beginners are afraid to try but there are also just as many who do take risks. Walter promotes being far more fearful of combat than a player otherwise would be almost like a reverse wigfird.