DST Forever or something, I'd Pay $70, give Kidney. LFG?

[goodguythatguy]

This might make no sense, but a part of me says "Klei, give me a reason to give you money, please!". I spent maybe $20 for DST like...a decade ago.
Buying Skins with money isn't too appealing to me, I'm not that desperate for aesthetics. Unfortunately, from what little I've seen of Rotwood, it's not the type of game I would buy. Part of me is salty development is going into something that looks like a Streets Of Rage/Double Dragon type game, but as long as Klei is making phat loot from sales, I'm all for it.
I don't know what I'm expecting from Klei, maybe a DST Expansion, like how MMORPGS do it. Maybe a whole new DST, like...DST2 or DST Forever. I imagine Klei has learned a lot over the years, so it would be nice to see what they could create if they took all their experience and applied it to something fresh. 
There's no other Survival/Open World/Crafting quite like DST, I'm a little clingy. I get a sense that Kleis potential isn't expressing itself...or something. I guess what I'm really saying is, I'm bullish on Klei.  

Please don't let me find out that Kleis Financial Manager person invested in Cryptoscams and got the company financially rekt or something.

In a way, I think it might be wasteful to make a brand new DST. So much has been added to the game over the years to improve it, and people have also spent time and energy making Mods for it. 

Maybe an expansion could be introducing new Maps in a World other than Surface and Caves. This has probably already been suggested before, but...I'm just trying to figure out how to give you my money on a regular basis and be satisfied doing so. 


 

[Maxposting]

5 hours ago, goodguythatguy said:

Kleis Financial Manager person invested in Cryptoscams and got the company financially rekt or something.

I don't think he'd invest into scams

[ALCRD]

5 hours ago, goodguythatguy said:

I'm just trying to figure out how to give you my money

Have you tried bank account transfer or mailing them money?

[Mike23Ua]

PS5 & Xbox Series X/S Enhanced Editions when?

[goodguythatguy]

17 minutes ago, ALCRD said:

Have you tried bank account transfer or mailing them money?

You're a blood sucking vampire. Not gonna make it. 

[goodguythatguy]

Mind Over Magic, Lab Rat, Rotwood...tick tock, we shall see. 

[goodguythatguy]

9 hours ago, Maxposting said:

I don't think he'd invest into scams

I don't know you, I dont trust you, I don't believe you. 

[Just-guy]

I don't understand what are asking for.

More content? A different game?

[goodguythatguy]

1 minute ago, Just-guy said:

I don't understand what are asking for.

More content? A different game?

I would say an expansion is the closest thing I can imagine to what I'd like to spend money on. For example Dead Cells has released several DLCs over the years, I think each one was $10-$20 upon release.They added new Maps, new Gear, new Bosses, new enemies,. etc. They've also done a lot of cross-overs with other games, similar to what DST did with Terraria, except Dead Cells has crossed over with maybe 10 other games. Castlevania, Hollow Knight, Hyper Light Drifter, Skul: The Hero Slayer, and several others. I bought every DLC Dead Cells has released, but like I said, I never bought a Aesthetic Skin. For all I know Dead Cells is broke because of their strategy, I'd have to talk to their Finance Dept. 

Survivors of the Void Risk Of Rain 2 is another good example of what I'm asking for, I bought the Survivors Of The Void DLC for Risk Of Rain 2 without a second thought. Unfortunately, Risk Of Rain 2 seems RIP now...so maybe expansions aren't a good idea and I'm asking for something that no one else wants. On a side note, I thought Risk Of Rain 2 would be awesome if it was Open World, Survival, Crafting...more like DST.

Hopefully this adds some clarity to what I'm ranting about.

[Mike23Ua]

19 minutes ago, Just-guy said:

I don't understand what are asking for.

More content? A different game?

I don’t know what the Op is asking for.. but I’m serious when I say I’d love to see PS5/Series X/S versions of DS/DST.

You can possibly blame Fortnite or State of Decay 2 for my desires to want this-

just go play either of those two games on Xbox One & Then play them on a Series X/S to visually see all the differences!

At this point: I am absolutely convinced that because Klei is still trying to design content for older consoles & ancient PC’s that it is quite literally last Gen that is holding back next Gen.

But what I don’t understand… is WHY!? I very specifically mentioned the two above games as examples because even though they’re updated with X/S graphics & features, my friends who can not yet afford a new console can still join my game and play with me.

Not ALL X/S games will let you play with your last Gen friends.. (gta online cough cough..) but for the ones that DO I DEEPLY appreciate it.

And when it comes specifically to the Dont Starve franchise: I’m sure Klei could do something similar where I can host the Next Gen version of the game from my X/S, and my last Gen pals can still join over cloud streaming or something.

However this is perfectly on par with the Ops topic, they want to pay Klei 70+ $ for a new or updated DS Game or major DLC..

and Coincidentally.. New X/S games run at around 69.99$-79.99$

As far as what I would expect out of next Gen enhanced version of DS/DST- I don’t know.. prettier graphics, more going on in the world, like birds landing in trees and chirping, or spiders climbing up and down on their nests as seen in the Wurt animated short, or Nightmare creatures actually being able to spawn from the Shadows of objects as they do in WANDAs Short.

Maybe a massive compilation of DS, SW, HAM, DST all complied into one epic game.. honestly I don’t rightly know WHAT would get me to pay 70$ for a next Gen DS game- but as long as I can still invite my last Gen friends like many Next Gen games are generous enough to still support..

Then I am without a doubt ALL IN on paying full retail price for an Epic Next Gen upgrade to the DS franchise that isn’t being held back by last Gen hardware limitations.

[Just-guy]

I mean, we get content pretty much every month, the game follows a frequent update strategy because the game is a multiplayer meant to go on for years, unlike Dead Cells or Risk of Rain that are games that released full and over the years had optional DLC's.

12 minutes ago, goodguythatguy said:

For all I know Dead Cells is broke because of their strategy, I'd have to talk to their Finance Dept. 

How are they broke with all the expansions they're selling?

[gamehun20]

5 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

As far as what I would expect out of next Gen enhanced version of DS/DST- I don’t know.. prettier graphics, more going on in the world, like birds landing in trees and chirping, or spiders climbing up and down on their nests as seen in the Wurt animated short, or Nightmare creatures actually being able to spawn from the Shadows of objects as they do in WANDAs Short.

These can already be done by changing the sprites of things but are they really necessary? Don't think so also what do you mean prettier graphics? This isn't an unreal engine game where all their focus is visuals and you can't really make an artstyle that is rough pencil drawn any newer looking. This game isn't held back by last gen hardware it just seems like it because you are playing all these "new gen" games and expect every other game to be like it

[goodguythatguy]

I think there has been a DST: Pocket Edition release. I can barely control the game on a PC. Playing DST on Android doesn't sound like a good time. What am I supposed to do, press the touchscreen and hope the screen touch processes the chest I wanted to open, and not all the other chests that are near it? I'm not buying that, but I hope Klei made solid profit selling DST:Pocket Edition and I hope a lot of people enjoy it. 

As far as I know, DST on consoles has no Mods available, which also doesn't sound like fun, especially considering DST with a controller is already more challenging than playing with a Mouse and Keyboard. If DST Console was all that was available to me, I just wouldn't play DST anymore. It's either the PC version with several Mods or no DST for me. 

[gamehun20]

4 minutes ago, goodguythatguy said:

I think there has been a DST: Pocket Edition

Do you mean don't starve new home?

[goodguythatguy]

9 minutes ago, Just-guy said:

I mean, we get content pretty much every month, the game follows a frequent update strategy because the game is a multiplayer meant to go on for years, unlike Dead Cells or Risk of Rain that are games that released full and over the years had optional DLC's.

How are they broke with all the expansions they're selling?

I'm not saying Klei doesn't add content to the game on a regular basis, they certainly do.. Maybe the new content they add is profitable without charging people a penny for it. In that case what I'm saying is useless and can be discarded. 

I didn't say Dead Cells was broke, I said I don't know how profitable it has been for them to sell DLCs. For example, if it costs them $1 Million to build the DLC, and they only earn $500,000 from selling that DLC, then that's not good for them. I'm just saying it's a different model than DST has, and I've spent more money on Dead Cells over the years than I have on DST. 

6 minutes ago, gamehun20 said:

Do you mean don't starve new home?

I mean DST on Android OS. 

[Mike23Ua]

36 minutes ago, gamehun20 said:

These can already be done by changing the sprites of things but are they really necessary? Don't think so also what do you mean prettier graphics? This isn't an unreal engine game where all their focus is visuals and you can't really make an artstyle that is rough pencil drawn any newer looking. This game isn't held back by last gen hardware it just seems like it because you are playing all these "new gen" games and expect every other game to be like it

Prettier graphics would mean waves/ ripples of water in the ocean, instead of seeing just a flat boring ocean.. maybe we could see under the water a little bit, and instead of just shadows of mobs under the water, we could see their actual colors visually just beneath the surface, you could see coral reefs out of reach under the water as you float over them as being nothing but visual scenery to gaze upon,  you could see fish while fishing flip and flop up out the water leaving little splashes as you reel them in. Grass tufts will blow back & fourth in the wind. Maybe even some cute meaningless stuff like Rabbits scratching themselves with their leg, or sniffing a carrot you lay on the ground in a trap before getting caught under it, Maybe prettier graphics can also have gameplay changes involved- such as Beefalo having a grazing animation to actually eat grass tufts in the Savannah biomes. When chopping snow covered trees in winter you can see snow fall off the branch and accumulate on the ground into tiny snow mounds, or they can even hilariously fall on our character before they brush themselves off.

a game doesn’t have to run on Unreal Engine to get Next Gen upgrades.. and this is something I’d pay Klei a lot of money to do to the franchise.

Let’s just face honest facts here: Klei is still designing content for this game franchise as if it was still 2013…  but we’re celebrating TEN YEARS of the franchises existence.. and the game still for the most part- runs on the same outdated graphics & physics engine.

I was very disappointed with the 10 year anniversary announcement for DS..

Maybe I’m dreaming of a game DS/DST or the entire DS Franchise will ever be capable of being…

But if ima fork out 70-80$ for it- It Better be spectacular.

[goodguythatguy]

I'm not against pretty graphics, but that falls into the realm of aesthetics. Valheim has "better graphics" than DST, but the controls of Valheim were so crap on a Controller (for me at least), I ended up asking for a refund.
In a way, it doesn't matter if the grass moves in the wind, or if the shadows move with the sun or whatever. It wouldn't make the game any more enjoyable or playable to me, but I know I'm a rare case and the average person is just desperate for better graphics, they want the $2000 graphics card, and mega FPS on a super Ultra HD screen with the craziest Refresh Rate you ever seen in your life. People are practically begging for pretty garbage. 

18 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said:

what the heck I just readed

Good point, I hadn't even considered that. Thanks for the contribution . 

[Maxposting]

12 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

a game doesn’t have to run on Unreal Engine to get Next Gen upgrades..

How would having a "next gen upgrade" be better for anyone but a small playerbase minority?

Klei would have to update an extra version of a game (I'd say it'd actually be another game entirely, but I am going off on a tangent right now).

I understand having a next gen upgrade of the game seems like it would be cool, but what I get from what you're proposing is that klei should "upgrade" the game by polishing it with extra graphics and re-release it for extra money (please correct me if I'm wrong), which is in my opinion a scummy thing to do.

[goodguythatguy]

Just now, Maxposting said:

How would having a "next gen upgrade" be better for anyone but a small playerbase minority?

Klei would have to update an extra version of a game (I'd say it'd actually be another game entirely, but I am going off on a tangent right now).

I understand having a next gen upgrade of the game seems like it would be cool, but what I get from what you're proposing is that klei should "upgrade" the game by polishing it with extra graphics and re-release it for extra money (please correct me if I'm wrong), which is in my opinion a scummy thing to do.

Isn't that kinda what Final Fantasy games have been doing for several years now? Re-releasing their older games with updated graphics? 

[Mike23Ua]

Just now, Maxposting said:

How would having a "next gen upgrade" be better for anyone but a small playerbase minority?

Klei would have to update an extra version of a game (I'd say it'd actually be another game entirely, but I am going off on a tangent right now).

I understand having a next gen upgrade of the game seems like it would be cool, but what I get from what you're proposing is that klei should "upgrade" the game by polishing it with extra graphics and re-release it for extra money (please correct me if I'm wrong), which is in my opinion a scummy thing to do.

Its not just prettier graphics, it’s mob behaviors, gameplay changes, & more- now do keep in mind that the Xbox One version of DST is limited in how many players & how big the worlds can be, the Nintendo Switch having the lowest player count at only 4 Maximum but- Klei devs have also gone on record once as saying that the ps5 and Series X/S consoles would be more than capable of having all the features PC has minus mods- (particularly higher player counts, larger worlds and more world Gen settings) however they’ve also stated that SONY (they very specifically signaled out Sony..) for some reason or another will not let the PS5 version of DST have any Additional Content that the PS4 version couldn’t also have.

So I repeat my statement: Last Gen consoles are literally what’s holding back Next Gen DS.

[gamehun20]

3 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

So I repeat my statement: Last Gen consoles are literally what’s holding back Next Gen DS (on consoles). 

There fixed

[Dextops]

6 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

So I repeat my statement: Last Gen consoles are literally what’s holding back Next Gen DS.

So we should make the experience worse to help a small minority of players who not only play on consoles but also the new gen because I don’t see the point in putting development time into that instead of just trying to even everyone out

[Maxposting]

4 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Its not just prettier graphics, it’s mob behaviors, gameplay changes, & more-

And you want to keep crossplay with old gen consoles how exactly?

Seems like you're literally dividing people and friends because they can't afford and/or don't endlessly thneed an upgraded copy of a console.

This would result in a way lower playercount and even less of an incentive to create a "next gen Don't Starve Together game".

[goodguythatguy]

1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said:

Its not just prettier graphics, it’s mob behaviors, gameplay changes, & more- now do keep in mind that the Xbox One version of DST is limited in how many players & how big the worlds can be, the Nintendo Switch having the lowest player count at only 4 Maximum but- Klei devs have also gone on record once as saying that the ps5 and Series X/S consoles would be more than capable of having all the features PC has minus mods- (particularly higher player counts, larger worlds and more world Gen settings) however they’ve also stated that SONY (they very specifically signaled out Sony..) for some reason or another will not let the PS5 version of DST have any Additional Content that the PS4 version couldn’t also have.

So I repeat my statement: Last Gen consoles are literally what’s holding back Next Gen DS.

What you're saying makes some sense to me. It's an interesting position because I don't think I ever heard "Playstation 1 is holding back Playstation 2" or "Super Nintendo is holding back Nintendo 64".
I don't know at what point Last Gen consoles started holding back Next Gen consoles, or if they really are holding back Next Gen Consoles, but it's still an interesting concept to consider. 

[Maxposting]

18 minutes ago, goodguythatguy said:

Isn't that kinda what Final Fantasy games have been doing for several years now? Re-releasing their older games with updated graphics? 

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't most FF games singleplayer? The whole argument sort of falls apart after considering this.

Feel free to dm me and I'll try to explain it further.