Suggestion for Walter's slingshot

[Gashzer]

1 minute ago, Theukon-dos said:

Deep breath me. It's not worth getting angry over. They're just bait. I hope.

Ok so:

1. All that? Only applies for players who perform those very specific actions at the start of their worlds. Believe it or not, not everyone likes doing the ruins before all else, or killing D-Fly before that. And why do you even need to kill the Shadow Pieces on night 21? The world is your oyster, and it ain't spoiling any time soon. 

2. you're allowed to; y'know, get off? Dfly's easier to fight on foot? Cool. So are the shadow pieces? alright. The beefalo can wait. it won't be going anywhere (unless you didn't use the bell). Really the only time limit is that you want to finish before spring, so that your beef isn't overtaken by carnial desires. 

3. Yes, the damage could be better. But we're not doing this for the damage. We're doing it because they're faster than Woby, won't buck us off when we're hit, and we won't loose a ton of sanity from getting hit either. 

Im not baiting. I logically broke down how fighting with a beefalo isnt as good as fighting on foot. So whats left is the utility and speed boost for exploring, that woby can provide without needing to tame a beefalo.

Yes if you are a noob. An ornery beefalo is ok to use when playing as Walter. But to suggest that an ornery beefalo replaces Big Woby or that riding big Woby isnt Walters core strength is ridiculous. The slingshot shouldnt get buffed and can be used only as a cheap boomerrang if you really want.

Tbh now that i have spelled it out again to myself how powerful Big woby is... i dont even think Big woby needs a buff either as Woby does a great job at replacing the usefulness of a beefalo, and beefalos are 100% worth taming as any other character and are strong, just not for Walter as hes got his own op version.

 

 

[maradyne]

Anyway, it would be nice if Walter got some improvements beyond the early game!

[Gashzer]

20 minutes ago, maradyne said:

Anyway, it would be nice if Walter got some improvements beyond the early game!

Nah, some characters are better late game like wurt, some characters are better early game like Walter. Characters shouldnt be great at everything otherwise they become boring like Wolfgang.

[maradyne]

6 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Nah, some characters are better late game like wurt, some characters are better early game like Walter. Characters shouldnt be great at everything otherwise they become boring like Wolfgang.

Nah. If he falls off late, then there's room to work with to expand him.

If Woby's his main boon as you say, and that's a downgrade outside of early game...then he's high and dry while other characters still have mechanics.
Like...he doesn't have to be totally transformed?? But there's room for improvement, surely.

[Gashzer]

2 minutes ago, maradyne said:

Nah. If he falls off late, then there's room to work with to expand him.

If Woby's his main boon as you say, and that's a downgrade outside of early game...then he's high and dry while other characters still have mechanics.
Like...he doesn't have to be totally transformed?? But there's room for improvement, surely.

Giant slingshot that requires both Walter and Woby it is then 

[ShadowDuelist]

5 hours ago, maradyne said:

Nah. If he falls off late, then there's room to work with to expand him.

If Woby's his main boon as you say, and that's a downgrade outside of early game...then he's high and dry while other characters still have mechanics.
Like...he doesn't have to be totally transformed?? But there's room for improvement, surely.

Exactly this. They just need to focus seriously, take some time to decide what will be the role of the slingshot, try it out in different scenarios, and tweak it in a way that it works better in the early game and retains "some" utility in the late game.

I'd rather it be a crowd control thing more than a main weapon, because that is what it seems it was aiming at design wise when they added freezing, slow pellets, poop pellets, etc, its just that the implementation ended up being poor.

Woby remains useful throughout the game because after you stop using her as transport, you still have a lot of extra storage. Having his ranged weapon to be improved in a way so that during the early game is an okay-ish weapon (better than now at least), and a crowd control tool in the late game, would go a long way for the character a whole.

They did ranged at the forge, Klei knows exactly how to balance things properly, without making it a "just press F" thing.