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[Plnguin]

9 minutes ago, BezKa said:

A IA pode ser ótima em uma sociedade não capitalista. Mas todos nós sabemos o que é mais importante, a vida humana ou o lucro. Deixar os artistas morrerem de fome é perfeitamente aceitável se a IA puder baratear o trabalho. Devemos apoiar a substituição de pessoas em um ritmo rápido e não sustentável e, literalmente, roubar todo o trabalho de suas vidas.

Até que tudo seja regulamentado e os técnicos parem de roubar arte das pessoas, todos devem ser agressivamente anti-IA art. Não importa o quão revolucionário seja, se é feito para machucar as pessoas, você não deveria estar do lado dele.

it has a good vision i agree with you, but it seems to me something like avoiding eating meat, as much as these groups are powerful this will not be avoided, being realistic, this has already become a race and unfortunately it will not stop, as I said I can see by the look that new professions will emerge and we have to be prepared for it...

 

[Francis2000]

AI is just a tool, not bad in itself.
When the camera was invented more than a century ago, painters at that time were very afraid, thinking that such an invention would make painters lose their existence value.
When drawing software appeared, some painters also worried that traditional hand-painted art would be replaced.

But have their fears come true?
No, everything still exists today, you can easily find a lot of hand-painted art, digital art and photos, they coexist and co-prosper.AI art is just another technological leap.

Or are you worried about plagiarism? That's still not the fault of AI. It's the people who maliciously pretend to be the original artist. AI is just a tool without thinking, and there is no good or evil.
Even without AI, there are still people copying or stealing the works of other artists. They may use pens, copy files, or steal physical works. Is this the fault of the pens? Is it the fault of the Internet? Or is it the fault of the car that transported the portrait?

Plnguin, I support your enthusiasm for researching AI art, I am even willing to work with you to try to make AI produce better pictures, but it is your right whether you want to continue this topic.

 

[Plnguin]

12 minutes ago, Francis2000 said:

AI é apenas uma ferramenta, não é ruim em si.
Quando a câmera foi inventada há mais de um século, os pintores da época ficaram com muito medo, pensando que tal invenção faria com que os pintores perdessem seu valor de existência.
Quando o software de desenho apareceu, alguns pintores também se preocuparam com a substituição da arte tradicional pintada à mão.

Mas seus medos se tornaram realidade?
Não, tudo ainda existe hoje, você pode encontrar facilmente muita arte pintada à mão, arte digital e fotos, elas coexistem e co-prosperam. A arte da IA é apenas mais um salto tecnológico.

Ou você está preocupado com o plágio? Isso ainda não é culpa da IA. São as pessoas que maliciosamente fingem ser o artista original. A IA é apenas uma ferramenta sem pensar, e não há bem ou mal.
Mesmo sem IA, ainda existem pessoas copiando ou roubando obras de outros artistas. Eles podem usar canetas, copiar arquivos ou roubar obras físicas. Isso é culpa das canetas? A culpa é da internet? Ou a culpa é do carro que transportou o retrato?

Plnguin, eu apoio seu entusiasmo em pesquisar a arte da IA, estou até disposto a trabalhar com você para tentar fazer a IA produzir imagens melhores, mas é seu direito se deseja continuar neste tópico.

 

 

thanks for your positioning it's a little bit of what i wanted to say

[Echsrick]

41 minutes ago, Francis2000 said:

AI is just a tool, not bad in itself.
When the camera was invented more than a century ago, painters at that time were very afraid, thinking that such an invention would make painters lose their existence value.
When drawing software appeared, some painters also worried that traditional hand-painted art would be replaced.

But have their fears come true?
No, everything still exists today, you can easily find a lot of hand-painted art, digital art and photos, they coexist and co-prosper.AI art is just another technological leap.

Or are you worried about plagiarism? That's still not the fault of AI. It's the people who maliciously pretend to be the original artist. AI is just a tool without thinking, and there is no good or evil.
Even without AI, there are still people copying or stealing the works of other artists. They may use pens, copy files, or steal physical works. Is this the fault of the pens? Is it the fault of the Internet? Or is it the fault of the car that transported the portrait?

Plnguin, I support your enthusiasm for researching AI art, I am even willing to work with you to try to make AI produce better pictures, but it is your right whether you want to continue this topic.

 

just because it was not harmful back then does not automaticaly mean that its not harmful now, because it is in fact harmful for many artist, they get unmotivated with all that ai stuff and progress and how the "quick money" people keep using it to save on money and other bad things ai is doin, it is actualy taken away jobs from people, and it is NOT a good thing

[Plnguin]

1 minute ago, Echsrick said:

só porque não era prejudicial naquela época não significa automaticamente que não seja prejudicial agora, porque na verdade é prejudicial para muitos artistas, eles ficam desmotivados com todas essas coisas de IA e progresso e como as pessoas do "dinheiro rápido" continuam usando isso para economizar dinheiro e outras coisas ruins que ai está fazendo, na verdade está tirando empregos das pessoas, e NÃO é uma coisa boa

unmotivated artists? I know many artists who use AI to their advantage. Including the AI already used years ago by artists with higher economies, now that the AI has arrived for everyone to access, instead of learning to use it keeps complaining, honestly it doesn't help at all. As I said even creating art with AI there is a lot of dedication it is not just writing, it is necessary to put the right prompts, angles of lights adjustments and adjustments is extremely massive and boring many times, this for an artist is even easier, because he already knows color psychology, and things that make the image pleasant, but the person doesn't learn the prompts and wants to complain because he doesn't have a job anymore

[BezKa]

2 minutes ago, Plnguin said:

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If you're not paying every single artist who's art you fed to your program you are stealing. End of story. Doesn't matter how much you worked, the people who are the CORE on which your stuff is built are being used.

[Plnguin]

Just now, BezKa said:

Se você não está pagando a cada artista cuja arte você alimentou em seu programa, você está roubando. Fim da história. Não importa o quanto você trabalhou, as pessoas que são o CORE no qual suas coisas são construídas estão sendo usadas.

As I said, this will be regulated soon, the artists' copyrights will be guaranteed soon, it's a new technology, I'm not stealing anything from anyone, I just created realistic images, I didn't ask her to do it in that style, and I say that even when I see styles being put together artist specifics do not stay with the original

[BezKa]

1 minute ago, Plnguin said:

As I said, this will be regulated soon, the artists' copyrights will be guaranteed soon, it's a new technology, I'm not stealing anything from anyone, I just created realistic images, I didn't ask her to do it in that style, and I say that even when I see styles being put together artist specifics do not stay with the original

But it's not regulated YET. And it doesn't matter what the result is. It can be a shapeless mass of colors that makes your eyes hurt, you still stole people's art.

[Echsrick]

1 minute ago, Plnguin said:

As I said, this will be regulated soon, the artists' copyrights will be guaranteed soon, it's a new technology, I'm not stealing anything from anyone, I just created realistic images, I didn't ask her to do it in that style, and I say that even when I see styles being put together artist specifics do not stay with the original

ai is litteraaly taken real art from real people without consent, wich is pretty much theft, it is not a tool artist use for there stuff, and they dont complain because they cant type in a few words, they complain because it is taken AWAY the things they enjoy doin, not only artist suffer from ai, many other jobs are taken away from machines, and that is never good for the people, honestly you realy start to sound like an tech bro or something

[Plnguin]

3 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

ai é literalmente arte real tirada de pessoas reais sem consentimento, o que é praticamente roubo, não é uma ferramenta que o artista usa para essas coisas, e eles não reclamam porque não conseguem digitar algumas palavras, eles reclamam porque é levado embora o coisas que eles gostam de fazer, não apenas o artista sofre de IA, muitos outros empregos são tirados das máquinas, e isso nunca é bom para as pessoas, honestamente, você realmente começa a soar como um irmão técnico ou algo assim

it's not like that, it's like I learned the basics of a drawing stroke and started drawing, the basics of drawing strokes are not copies, the AI was trained to draw realistic art, learned the basics of realistic art, and applied it to drawing , if that were the case, no one would be able to edit an image or make a blur on the screen that would be like copying an artist

[Echsrick]

13 minutes ago, Plnguin said:

it's not like that, it's like I learned the basics of a drawing stroke and started drawing, the basics of drawing strokes are not copies, the AI was trained to draw realistic art, learned the basics of realistic art, and applied it to drawing , if that were the case, no one would be able to edit an image or make a blur on the screen that would be like copying an artist

dude, it litteraly TOOK other peoples art for that, it litteraly copies them

[Plnguin]

2 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

cara, literalmente TOMOU a arte de outras pessoas para isso, literalmente os copia

no man, I'll tell you an example of manga:
Characteristics Eyes: In more rounded and larger formats, they can express a certain naivety, purity or joviality.
The narrower ones express strong temper, seriousness and the like.
Let's say the AI learns all this? These are concepts of manga style drawing, this is not copying these are concepts, they are the fundamentals that lead to a manga style drawing

[Echsrick]

9 minutes ago, Plnguin said:

no man, I'll tell you an example of manga:
Characteristics Eyes: In more rounded and larger formats, they can express a certain naivety, purity or joviality.
The narrower ones express strong temper, seriousness and the like.
Let's say the AI learns all this? These are concepts of manga style drawing, this is not copying these are concepts, they are the fundamentals that lead to a manga style drawing

i think that its just not worth trying to reason and keep explaining why ai is not a good thing at all

[Plnguin]

2 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

eu acho que não vale a pena tentar raciocinar e ficar explicando porque ai não é uma coisa boa

yes, anyway its evolution is inevitable

[Evelo]

Well this got political rather quickly.

[Astraia]

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On 4/8/2023 at 8:26 AM, Plnguin said:

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