Pig Princess Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, edulopes said: 70 armor rating helmet, no one uses It to figth with It besides Maxwell, make at least on par with any baseball cap Of course I don't use bone helm most of the time, because I'm fighting without armor a lot and use celestial crown (Klaus, Dragonfly, Celestial champion phase 1 and 2, shadow pieces once only t3 rooks remain - although I bring armor just in case unexpected hound wave happens). But after Maxwell rework goes live I know what head piece will always be in my inventory, and it's not any sort of crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonz Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, edulopes said: Woodie is still an good caracter, almost no downside His moose is cool too bad it stops being useful for bosses very early that is hambat and log suit would already outclass it. Goose stops being usefull after few days of ocean exploration, beaver is only good as shovel. For me good character is one i'd be happy to stay as from start to the end. He can beat champion but it's really a hassle and pointless to do as moose instead a human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 With a little prep and game knolwage any caracter can be Op, my problem with current Max is he is too cluncly he feels like rusted, even he is New So he needs sonething, faster Codex umbra, or durable clones or more damage clones( this only as last resort) because It is abnoxious comprinhas wicker book speed with Maxwell book speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taijihongqigong Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, edulopes said: As i Said, Maxwell only have the prision besides that in similar fashion pre rework he isnt more worth than any other option I have an word that i prepared the merm Terrain and merm mais, i use ONLY Wanda now, she can tp, she can kill ALL Bosses she can Farm do It all emm........ (maybe out of this topic) you must be skilled. there are still many newers. Wanda is too difficult to them. And when you need a lot of wood, woodie can do better. every charactor is unique. that's what i want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, taijihongqigong said: there are still many newers. And Maxwell is totally not newcomer friendly, but for me It dosent affect that much and the way klei reworked him is impossible tô him not be Op and Noob friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, taijihongqigong said: And there's only way you can strengthen your army and yourself, beefalo, this shadow gear system make me no choices.(cry) we all know how torture to tame a beefalo, especially tame a default.(cry again). I disagree about being outright torture (it's just inconvenience), but you can just not go full minmaxing mode if you don't like it that much. Without beefalo you can still deal a lot of damage, whether you are holding thurible or sword. Like I know about animation canceling, but I don't enjoy doing it personally and on regular basis, so I spare myself from it. Nobody holds a gun in front of my head and forces me to use animation canceling. I hope idea is clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taijihongqigong Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, edulopes said: And Maxwell is totally not newcomer friendly, but for me It dosent affect that much and the way klei reworked him is impossible tô him not be Op and Noob friendly Yeah, cause maxwell has only 75hp(equal to one attack of almost bosses) No need to op yet. We play game for fun. If a character too op, I will lose passion quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, edulopes said: Why use Maxwell, he isnt the best for that If you can change to Anyone, why not chose the best option Best Maxwell is now the best overall in terms of combat, harvesting(the absolute best here), and cc so he is the best option when you really think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, taijihongqigong said: Yeah, cause maxwell has only 75hp(equal to one attack of almost bosses) No need to op yet. We play game for fun. If a character too op, I will lose passion quickly. He isnt Op, even in his interativo before nerfs The problems is about the amor bonus that isnt Said anywere in caracter select, And his sunmon mechsnics are terríble and too slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, taijihongqigong said: And there's only way you can strengthen your army and yourself, beefalo, this shadow gear system make me no choices.(cry) we all know how torture to tame a beefalo, especially tame a default.(cry again). But even without using this "painful" method your still one of the strongest combat characters. 30 minutes ago, edulopes said: I ONLY use Wanda because she Just makes figths trivial like easy mode, less matérias easy to use, cheap in general But she's even squisher than Maxwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taijihongqigong Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pig Princess said: I disagree about being outright torture (it's just inconvenience), but you can just not go full minmaxing mode if you don't like it that much. Without beefalo you can still deal a lot of damage, whether you are holding thurible or sword. Like I know about animation canceling, but I don't enjoy doing it personally and on regular basis, so I spare myself from it. Nobody holds a gun in front of my head and forces me to use animation canceling. I hope idea is clear Hit the point! I think you are right. tame a beefalo annoying me a lot. And it's Dps is slightly higher than grumb bees. In some case, I think will chose to use bee books instead. such as dragonfly. so that i can skip beefalo and gain high damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, taijihongqigong said: Hit the point! I think you are right. tame a beefalo annoying me a lot. And it's Dps is slightly higher than grumb bees. In some case, I think will chose to use bee books instead. such as dragonfly. so that i can skip beefalo and gain high damage. Since we are talking about other character perks, do befriended merms stay at one's side if one unequips disguise mask? I suspect their survivability is higher than that of bees, but choice is yours, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SullyD Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Maxwell has 75 HP(downside), but recovers sanity quickly(upside) BUT, he needs to use all his maximum sanity in exchange for power (recovering sanity quickly has no effect here, so this removes the upside) 2 downsides, 1 upside. Depending on the RNG, by using max sanity and not being able to recover with food, nightmares start chasing you, you can only raise sanity if your duelists die. 3 downsides, 1 upside You need to use only the specific equipment (downside) so your duelists are not useless. 4 downsides, 1 upside You need to engage in the fight and be close enough to give your duelists damage and attack speed (downside) 5 downsides, 1 upside Aggro goes directly to you and not to your duelists at most times (downside) 6 downsides, 1 upside I'll stop here, I'm bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, Pig Princess said: Since we are talking about other character perks, do befriended merms stay at one's side if one unequips disguise mask? I suspect their survivability is higher than that of bees, but choice is yours, of course no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taijihongqigong Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, edulopes said: He isnt Op, even in his interativo before nerfs The problems is about the amor bonus that isnt Said anywere in caracter select, And his sunmon mechsnics are terríble and too slow Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Best Maxwell is now the best overall in terms of combat, harvesting(the absolute best here), and cc so he is the best option when you really think about it. Not best in combat, medíocre, only better than the clear options( the base ones) Harvesting, wurt just bests him, no discussion and i am Sorry but you dont know how to use wurt CC he is only the best because he is the only option 7 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: But she's even squisher than Maxwell. Nigth armor and thulecite crown can face tank for days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafyFly Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, taijihongqigong said: And there's only way you can strengthen your army and yourself, beefalo, this shadow gear system make me no choices.(cry) we all know how torture to tame a beefalo, especially tame a default.(cry again). A beefalo can bring you many benefits but doesn't do as much damage as a shadow sword. Therefore, I think it is reasonable to strengthen beefaloes with shadow thuribles. You hold a shadow thurible for your beefalo. Not that you tame a beefalo for your shadow thurible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taijihongqigong Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pig Princess said: Since we are talking about other character perks, do befriended merms stay at one's side if one unequips disguise mask? I suspect their survivability is higher than that of bees, but choice is yours, of course I don't konw that, sorry! maxwell can read wick's book. that's why i choose it. it's cheap, and strong. want to know whether can it exist with my duelists. haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, edulopes said: Not best in combat, medíocre, only better than the clear options( the base ones) Harvesting, wurt just bests him, no discussion and i am Sorry but you dont know how to use wurt CC he is only the best because he is the only option I said overall and his damage output exceeds more than half the cast with maybe 3 characters who are above him His harvesting speed was proven in the past to be faster than Wurt's but even assuming it isn't that still makes him the 2nd best harvester He is not the only character with CC abilities he excels in so many fields at once including storage he's a very powerful character 2 minutes ago, LeafyFly said: A beefalo can bring you many benefits but doesn't do as much damage as a shadow sword. Therefore, I think it is reasonable to strengthen beefaloes with shadow thuribles. You hold a shadow thurible for your beefalo. Not that you tame a beefalo for your shadow thurible. to be fair the damage loss from the dark sword is made up by the additional damage from duelists and the higher hp shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBowers Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I said overall and his damage output exceeds more than half the cast with maybe 3 characters who are above him His harvesting speed was proven in the past to be faster than Wurt's but even assuming it isn't that still makes him the 2nd best harvester He is not the only character with CC abilities he excels in so many fields at once including storage he's a very powerful character Legit true, my mind is boggled over people calling him weak or ruined. Or just plainly ignoring all the upsides and utility he brings over some very reasonable mechanics that aren't liked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: He is not the only character with CC abilities Quote me another please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, edulopes said: Quote me another please Wickerbottom and Wigfrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I said overall and his damage output exceeds more than half the cast with maybe 3 characters who are above him More than half cast dosent have multpliers not MAXWELL fault 1 minute ago, Mysterious box said: Wickerbottom and Wigfrid. Wicker you can use the same via pan flute, wig If i rememember working against bosses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, edulopes said: More than half cast dosent have multpliers not MAXWELL fault Wigfrid has one and he's still stronger and I'm willing to bet Warly is only stronger when it's raining point is he's really good at combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edulopes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 ALL the cast have more Hp than him this Alone as an argument dont hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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