Fenrir_Jow Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I was thinking, whats the point of Willow can be placed ON fire and simply doesn't care about it, but at 70 ° she says "Oh God, I'm dying of heat!" Willow should be imune of heat and fire, an easy and clean rework to improve a little bit the character, as she be immune to the Summer. Anyway, love the character and her skins, but she is almost useless compared to the others (Even Wicker is better than her in summer). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell_winters Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Simply giving her a fire immunity won't fix the fact that she has zero character progression. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir_Jow Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, maxwell_winters said: Simply giving her a fire immunity won't fix the fact that she has zero character progression. I don't know man... Wortox received only a jump on map, it was nice... Walter now can ride better Woby, it was nice... Willow with fire immunity It would be nice for summer outside caves, vs klaus on fights, vs enraged df, kill easily mobs on firetraps, anyway. My point is, this little changes can affect the gameplay even a little. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Doesn't Willow not already take reduced overheating damage? Tanking through Klaus' fire spell is very viable atm without taking much damage as Willow. Ill be game for this if they make winter more dangerous for Willow by taking alot more damage when freezing like 5hp per tick or better yet Willow begins to rapidly build up the frozen effect trapping her for abit forcing her to take freezing damage. Cause right now its so easy to just light a tree on fire and stand in it for heat. That her downside isn't even noticable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodIess Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 no rework will save her from the stigma (griefers love it) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I’d just add some use for BERNIE! During enlightenment, and maybe a way to make it small and grab it even if you are still insane (to carry it through cave sinkholes or wormholes). Like right clicking on it or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThymeSpirit Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Completely removing a season's challenge won't make her more fun or useful. She needs new mechanics, like more contol over fire to make it a viable option for combat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeClops Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I wouldn't mind her getting more powerful, but I think she's great. Best personality, BERNIE! is fun to use, most efficient surface sanity station, cooking on lave ponds, tanking all the fire damage from Klaus/DF; maybe slightly underpowered but her perks are cool and unique. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonetribe Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 16 hours ago, ThymeSpirit said: Completely removing a season's challenge won't make her more fun or useful. She needs new mechanics, like more contol over fire to make it a viable option for combat. While I'm all in favor of her receiving more buffs than just overheating immunity, I don't see why it can't be added in addition to said buffs. ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoodlemanNed Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 i want willow to be a better fire witch let her burn more stuff, do more burn damage, and maybe make burning not destroy all your loot yeah people will always whine about theoretical griefers but if willow is given a lot of control over her fire she'll end up as more of a cool mage type of character which in my opinion weighs out the potential of someone using her maliciously (after all, anyone can burn down whatever they want with a normal torch anyways) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell_winters Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Relaxed mode gave me an idea. What if fire could damage her but couldn't kill her? Similar to how temperature damage works in this mode. It stops at 15 HP and doesn't drop lower unless you receive damage from something else. You can make the cap even lower for her, like 10 or even 5. But this still won't solve the lack of progression and she really can use more fire-related crafts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodIess Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Another interesting idea is to add the ability to extinguish burning objects with your hands, like ice staffs or watering cans, while losing a little sanity, but increasing HP (absorbs fire into itself) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ev1l Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 10 hours ago, NoodlemanNed said: yeah people will always whine about theoretical griefers but if willow is given a lot of control over her fire she'll end up as more of a cool mage type of character which in my opinion weighs out the potential of someone using her maliciously (after all, anyone can burn down whatever they want with a normal torch anyways) Humm, it's a shame wickerbottom got the pyro book recently, otherwise, that could be a very nice extra use for willow's lighter, "sucking in" the fire around her to restore it's durability, like the "deluminator" from Harry Potter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143886-willow-should-be-re-reworked/#findComment-1603674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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