darkest coffee Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 First I noticed wheeze worts sucking up and storing huge amounts of gas. I just realized that I don't have enough polluted water either and watched for a bit and realized my dupes aren't using the lavatories or outhouses and aren't making messes.... they do use the showers though so I get some pH2O but very little really.. I'm not sure what else is wrong as well, but I keep finding things it seems. also I noticed lights are working without power as long as they're connected to a wire also it seems like a lot of animations are not playing in a random way, like for digging and building, so sometimes they'll show others they won't it might just turn out to be 4 things but I not feeling optimistic about it guess I should just try the classic mode in spaced out next and hope it's better tested Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, darkest coffee said: my dupes aren't using the lavatories. Do you mean they pee everywhere then? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 i had to say i not saw none off those yet Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkest coffee Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 edited my post for just that question.... no they don't pee at all Just now, gabberworld said: i had to say i not saw none off those yet with the DLC disabled or without the DLC at all? if so it has to be a mod I guess but what mod would do all that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, darkest coffee said: if so it has to be a mod I guess but what mod would do all that? if its mod then dunno , because i not use currently any off those Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, darkest coffee said: First I noticed wheeze worts sucking up and storing huge amounts of gas. I just realized that I don't have enough polluted water either and watched for a bit and realized my dupes aren't using the lavatories or outhouses and aren't making messes.... they do use the showers though so I get some pH2O but very little really.. I'm not sure what else is wrong as well, but I keep finding things it seems. also I noticed lights are working without power as long as they're connected to a wire also it seems like a lot of animations are not playing in a random way, like for digging and building, so sometimes they'll show others they won't it might just turn out to be 4 things but I not feeling optimistic about it guess I should just try the classic mode in spaced out next and hope it's better tested The devs made it possible for you to play the game as before mergedown. The last pre-mergedown version is now available as a beta. I'm hoping permanently but at least a few months while they're sorting out the issues with mergedown. Just remember to delete any autosaves and manual saves made with mergedown if you've opened a save with mergedown, or it won't run. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, darkest coffee said: if so it has to be a mod I guess but what mod would do all that? Does it still do that if you deactivate mods? Yup! Probably the mod "Bladder Not Included" (if it still functions...) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Saturnus said: I'm hoping permanently but at least a few months while they're sorting out the issues with mergedown. if you scared about that, then go your game folder and make game backup, simple as it is Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkest coffee Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 ok it's my mods... but I don't have the bladder mod at all. I don't have any that should or could do what I've been seeing also no blatant or obvious errors in the logs But something is doing it. I disabled them all and well everything was working as it should which means the long tedious process of trying out mod combinations maybe I'll see if DLC=on + classic game works with the same mods... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 If you need any help, write down the list of mods or upload a save file Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkest coffee Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 awesome thanks actually it is one of these mods "not enough tags" "dynamic buildings" "automatic harvest" probably the buildings one for the lights and maybe the tags for the peeing? no idea why these would do that, but I randomly guessed and disabled these and it's all working wtf? I'd include a full list but it's a pain to get just the active ones and ones that aren't out of date out of mods.json or out of the log files... there are around 123 mods and 64ish are active now I don't need dynamic buildings since customize buildings works again with vanilla and the other 2 are just questionable in need.. automatic harvest doesn't seem to be functioning anyways and not totally sure what the impact of the tags mod is anymore. thanks again for offering to help [Mod Manager // by @Ony :1843965353] [Farm touch and Engie tune Up:1730681625] [Stats Unlimited:1758223146] [Ranching Skill Increase:1710686863] [Skill and Stats progress:1710666223] [FreeCamera:1737603705] [Customize Plants:1818145851] [Build Over Plants:1835394161] [Care Package Mod:1833878154] [Customize Geyser:1861107947] [Sweep Those Eggs:1856796585] [Customize Buildings:1818138009] [Falling Sand:1855163252] [Buildable Dirt Tile:1837883076] [Faster Jetpacks:1822175925] [Oil Well - Any Water:1717519620] [Mod Updater:2018291283] [No Leaky Walls:1766302971] [Show Industrial Machinery Tag:1706080287] [Bigger Building Menu:1703611962] [Bigger Camera Zoom Out:1717463209] [Decor Lights:1732501619] [Queue For Sinks:1881925531] [GasOverlay:1737859934] [Resculpt:1918000273] [DGSM - Duplicants Generation Settings Manager // by @Ony :1838445101] [Wounded Go To Med Bed:1822160024] [Aquatic Farm:1910961538] [Micro Transformer:1991239137] [Clean Floors:1937854017] [Wall Pumps and Vents:1845579729] [Show Building Ranges:1960996649] [Research Queue:1893887916] [Sweep By Type:1863428350] [Butcher & Fishing Stations:1907824546] [Insulated Door:2054432034] [Mechanics Station:1938117526] [Pause on ready to print:2129768894] [Adjustable Coolers:2163720966] [Insulated Joint Plate:2059584551] [No Manual Delivery:2047308624] [Double Sweeper Range:1732534140] [Steel Ladder:1706075206] [Better Info Cards:1960947963] [Pliers fixed:2479475997] [Efficient Supply:1874600082] [Better Automation Overlay:1878896484] [Germicidal Lamps:2229356245] [Thermo Sensor Tile:1974008313] [Customizable Speed:2002421412] [Blueprints fixed:2435244304] [Full Miner Yield:2527442674] [Flip Anything (Vanilla, Spaced Out):2470399096] [WheezeWort No Maintenance:2018109385] [Fixed Ore Scrubber:2172549146] [HighPressureMod:HighPressureMod] [Powerless Deodorizers:2548787152] [Room Size DLC:Room Size DLC] [Self-sealing Airlocks Revived:2542160819] [去除沙盒模式限制 / Remove Sandbox Lock Mode:2549472747] [Resize Dup UI:2549295369] [Customize Elements:2549477669] [Custom Overcrowded:Custom Overcrowded] [Piped Output:2550027771] Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, darkest coffee said: "dynamic buildings" It seems the -No need to pee- is listed in this one. I'm not 100% sure but I don't think the other 2 mods have anything to do with the peeing issue at least. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkest coffee Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 I removed that one, I never even saw the no pee thing. I guess it also probably has a no electricity needed for lights. now if I could figure out which one stops animations sometimes, but it's not as game altering as no peeing, it's just distracting at times Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/131976-there-seem-to-be-a-lot-of-problems-in-the-vanilla-game-now-aka-with-dlc-disabled/#findComment-1480139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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